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Image copyright problem with Image:Catch21.JPG[edit]

Image Copyright problem
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Proposed deletion of Apartment Story[edit]

The article Apartment Story has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication that this meets WP:NSONGS. lacks 3rd references.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. RadioFan (talk) 18:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Laugh, Laugh[edit]

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NW (Talk) 11:08, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Triangle (The Beau Brummels album)[edit]

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DYK for Kicks (song)[edit]

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DYK for Black Is Black[edit]

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SoWhy 16:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confessions on a Dance Floor[edit]

Wow. Thanks a lot Gongshow. I just logged in and saw this good news. --Legolas (talk2me) 03:30, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review[edit]

Just stopping by real quick to thank you for peer reviewing Lola versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One for me. Your suggestions were very helpful, and I've already put them to good use. I hope to take the article to GAN soon, but I'll work on it a little more before I do so. Once again, many thanks! - I.M.S. (talk) 00:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anytime! Thanks for the kind words, and great work so far on the article.  Gongshow Talk 01:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for My Best Friend's Girl (song)[edit]

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Jake Wartenberg 11:14, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It may interest you to know that, since you !voted in the AfD, a series of new citations has been added to Christmas Tree (Lady Gaga song). You may wish to re-evaluate the article and possible reconsider your !vote, but this is not necessary. Dale 21:17, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for keeping me updated, Dale! I appreciate the work being done to try to meet WP:NSONGS. I've left a response at the article's AfD page.  Gongshow Talk 21:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Megarex[edit]

Hi, Gongshow! I saw you voted for deleting Megarex. In fact, it had no references. I added some references I found about this band and its importance to Brazilian music and, then, I explained the reasons to keep the article in Wikipedia, according to band. Take a look there, please. I hope you change your opinion about that. Thank you!Victor Silveira (talk) 02:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Victor, thank you for writing! I looked at the new sources from yourself and the user Power.corrupts, and have decided to remove the delete vote at this time. Thanks again for your work in attempting to save this article.  Gongshow Talk 00:59, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Gongshow! Thank you for changing your opinion. I'm a little busy this week, but soon I'll work a little more on this article to make it better. Thank you again for helping me! Victor Silveira (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Good luck with the article.  Gongshow Talk 17:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Hope[edit]

You're more than welcome to add the sources. I really don't want this to keep falling under WP:SEP. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many ottersOne batOne hammer) 04:09, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Per your request, I have implemented the sources into the article and cleaned it up a bit. Thanks for getting in touch. Regards,  Gongshow Talk 06:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The Article Rescue Barnstar
For fixing Lucky Man (Emerson, Lake & Palmer song). Bearian (talk) 19:59, 30 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation[edit]

I saw your efforts on DJ Baby Anne. You maybe interested in our wikiproject.

WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron
WikiProject Article Rescue Squadron
Hello, Gongshow.
You have been invited to join the Article Rescue Squadron, a collaborative effort to rescue articles from deletion if they can be improved through regular editing.
For more information, please visit the project page, where you can >> join << and help rescue articles tagged for deletion and rescue. Ikip (talk) 03:09, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the invite, I'll be glad to join!  Gongshow Talk 06:27, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
that is wonderful to hear, hope to see your name on the list....Ikip (talk) 06:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done, and thanks again!  Gongshow Talk 06:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome[edit]

Hi, Gongshow, welcome to the Article Rescue Squadron! We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying and rescuing articles that have been tagged for deletion. Every day hundreds of articles are deleted, many rightfully so. But many concern notable subjects and are poorly written, which can be fixed and should not be deleted. We try to help these articles quickly improve and address the concerns of why they are proposed for deletion. This covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated!

If you have any questions, feel free to post a question on the talk page.

And once again — Welcome! Ikip (talk) 06:31, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: DYK Suggestion: Lucky Man (Emerson, Lake & Palmer song)[edit]

Thank you, I have fixed the quotes there. For future reference, please post such messages at WT:DYK. Materialscientist (talk) 08:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your quick reply, for adjusting the quote, and for directing me to the proper section. WT:DYK...makes so much sense, I overlooked it! Thanks again for your help.  Gongshow Talk 08:43, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Lucky Man (Emerson, Lake & Palmer song)[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Just Like Anyone (song)[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:29, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DOCTOR Strange[edit]

(in the background, the echoes of head thumping against wall) I can't believe I referred to the great man as 'Dr. Strange' in my Barry Windsor-Smith page rewrite. I would almost rather eat my own soul than disparage my all-time favourite character ever (it's cost me rather more than I care to contemplate over the years to collect a complete run). I'm off to flog myself comatose with the Nine Sacred Branches of the Sons of Satannish (without a sauna first). Thanks for the correction! Cheers! Archiveangel (talk) 14:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for taking the time to write me. Don't be too hard on yourself. One time at a comic shop, I tried to find an issue of Doctor Strange, and was confused when I discovered his books were located after those of Donald Duck and Doom Patrol. I thought I was doing the shop a favor when I spent a good several minutes rearranging the titles. Once I explained that I was only trying to keep consistent with Wikipedia, as Dr. Strange is a disambig page, the worker understood and gave me a free button as a token of his appreciation. As I recall, the button read "I'm a tool", which I naturally interpreted as "I'm a valuable tool in helping the store achieve greatness". Seriously though, excellent job expanding the BWS article! Thanks to your work he now has a page that's worthy of his stature as a comic book legend.  Gongshow Talk 19:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barry Windsor-Smith (follows on from above)[edit]

Thanks for that - appreciated, it always helps to know that perhaps you're the right track :-). Not disparaging anyone, I hasten to add, but I was astounded to find BWS hasn't a net presence that gives him the credit he's due as an innovator (inc Wikipedia). Sure he's not a classic superhero artist, or a member of the 90s impossible physiology trend and scrappy storytelling like Kirby on acid that (to me) helped wreck things in many ways (and made me step out of comics for a long while). But his style must surely be almost unique in comics (Winsor McKay? Hal Foster?), was a serious talking point for years to us buying comics back in the early Conan days, and at an artistic level is so far beyond almost everything going on at the time that ... not to mention his stand against the companies pay rates and terms, which few stood in the firing line for at the time.
In some respects it's a shame you have to be objective on Wikipedia - BWS could easily be argued as an exception so you can shake people by the collar and scream 'LOOK WHAT YOU'RE MISSING'. Even his own web site, beautifully produced as it is, has a somewhat melancholic resignation to a past to it (how Pre-Raphaelite) I can't believe how cheap his prints are compared to so many lesser talents ... ah, well, monuments are built stone by stone. Cheers! Archiveangel (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I know what you mean, BWS would have to rank pretty high up there on the creator totem pole. I'm surprised to hear his prints are relatively cheap in comparison to others...not that I'm an expert in collecting in that area, but for his die-hard fans that might not be such bad news, as it makes his stuff somewhat more affordable, I guess.  Gongshow Talk 18:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there Gongshow! I remembered the wonderful job you did peer reviewing Lola Versus Powerman for me, and I wondered if you'd consider taking a look at the peer review I just filed for another album, Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire). I'd appreciate any thoughts you had on the article. Many thanks! - I.M.S. (talk) 05:32, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I.M.S.! Thanks for the nice things you said, and for thinking of me to help out with this peer review. Great album and great band...I'll be more than happy to have a look! I can probably have it ready in the next few hours. Take care,  Gongshow Talk 18:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks, Gongshow! No hurry if you're busy at the moment. - I.M.S. (talk) 18:12, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, it's no problem at all!  Gongshow Talk 18:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Gongshow. You have new messages at I.M.S.'s talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- I.M.S. (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
I award you this Copyeditor's Barnstar for your outstanding work at peer review, namely for reviewing Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire) and Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One. Thank you! - I.M.S. (talk) 00:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays[edit]

Orphaned non-free image File:The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound (UK).jpg[edit]

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Hi, thank you for the notice. I had uploaded the image for use in a new article I was working on, The '59 Sound (song), which I just created. The image has now been incorporated, and I hope there's no longer a problem with it. Thanks again for your help,  Gongshow Talk 07:21, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No problemo, just remember to remove it from your sandbox now that it's in article space. Skier Dude (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done, thanks!  Gongshow Talk 07:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! You were recently involved in an AfD discussion regarding the article KSM (band). I just updated the page and was hoping for some honest feedback. Note that I am not a fan or in any way connected to the subject, but I am rather new to Wikipedia and this is my first “blind” rewrite. Comments, criticism, and advice are all welcome. Of course, please do any additional editing to improve the article if you can. Thanks in advance. --Logical Fuzz (talk) 20:30, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Kudos on turning around the KSM article, it's really looking good. There's much more detail now than it had before it came up for AfD, and everything is sourced. Really, my only suggestion at all would be for the "References" section, to include things like the author, publisher, date of source and date retrieved (see The Jonas Brothers for a comparison). I've found the WP:Referencing section to be helpful, and definitely the WP:Citation templates area too. Thanks for taking the time to write me, and again, excellent work on this article!  Gongshow Talk 18:58, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the compliments on the article, and the Barnstar as well! I'm really not sure of what possessed me to take it on! I have to "learn" how to do references properly (next on my "to do" list) so I can fix those up. Thanks for the links, that will help a lot. Redoing that article has been a great learning experience. Thanks again for the Barnstar, that was very nice of you!--Logical Fuzz (talk) 22:55, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome, you deserve it!  Gongshow Talk 23:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Second Chance (38 Special song)[edit]

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DYK for The '59 Sound (song)[edit]

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Orphaned non-free image File:Them Crooked Vultures - New Fang.jpg[edit]

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Hi, thanks for notifying me about this. It seems that another user uploaded this image and incorporated it into the "New Fang" article, thereby removing my image from the infobox. If deletion of my uploaded version is the appropriate next step, I guess that's okay, as there's nowhere else to place the image.  Gongshow Talk 20:44, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Don't Forget Me (When I'm Gone)[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks sincerely. It was getting lonely on the 'pro' side of the debate. Kindofdavish (talk) 03:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there, no problem at all! I'm assuming good faith that the editors who voted delete truly found a lack of coverage in their searches. The updated version of the article establishes notability to my satisfaction, but we'll see what the consensus is after another few days or so. Of course, if you know of any additional online or offline sources that might help, feel free to add them in. Take care,  Gongshow Talk 06:25, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, you seem to be a fan of The National, so if you got time, please have a look at an article I just created: "Fake Empire". Gary King (talk) 23:27, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gary, you're right that I'm a fan. You too? I thought Boxer was outstanding, and I'm looking forward to their new album (in a few months, maybe?). "Fake Empire" was definitely waiting for an article of its own, so I'm happy that (1) you created it, and (2) that you did it really, really well. Content looks solid, from background to release to reception. After reading through it, I just removed the Allmusic ref in the lead (that went to the "Mistaken for Strangers" single), and added a wikilink to Apartment Story in the infobox. No major issues at all. Again, great job, and thanks for letting me know about it.  Gongshow Talk 00:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, big fan, although "Fake Empire" is by far my favorite song from The National, more than any of their other work. Also a fan of Radiohead, especially every single song on In Rainbows; I see that you are as well. Radiohead gets enough love on Wikipedia already, though (In Rainbows is a Featured Article), so I'd like to dedicate some time to The National if I can. Also, my work on "Fake Empire" was relatively quick (if you look at my other articles from my user page you'll see that I like to spend more time on articles usually); I'm still trying to find more info on it, although The National in general is not nearly as popular as Radiohead.
I've been eying Boxer (album) for a while, hoping to maybe work on it to bring it to FA standards, as it really needs it. Also, for "Fake Empire" it shouldn't be too hard to find more information for the Reception section so I'm continuing to do that. The article's biggest problem right now are the quotes; I just found those quotes and copied them over, but I'll try my best to paraphrase them so that they aren't just giant chunks of text. Gary King (talk) 00:49, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, definitely not quite as much material out there on the National compared with Radiohead, though I suppose that's to be expected considering Radiohead got off to a head start and has way more acclaim worldwide, and the National really only started to get some love when "Fake Empire" and Boxer came out. Cool that you're a fan of both bands too. Good point about the quotes, I agree that will need to be touched up a bit to take it to the next level. I'll also keep an eye out for any more info on "Fake Empire" that can be used for the article.  Gongshow Talk 01:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, You relisted this AfD under albums and song-related discussions, but it is really a religious theme which appears in Kabbalistic writings. Yoninah (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Can you also list Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Petek under Judaism-related discussions? Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome! I've added The Petek as well.  Gongshow Talk 18:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for your recent support. Please take a look at the article now and see if you are happy with your earlier concerns. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 03:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wow, great job! The "weak keep" !vote I submitted just yesterday is now an easy "keep". There are references that definitely contain significant coverage for the song, and I appreciate you keeping me updated. Thanks, and kudos again on the article's expansion!  Gongshow Talk 06:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your signature[edit]

Your signature does not meed with the Wikipedia guidelines regarding signatures. They should not contain color unless absolutely necessary. Please consider removing the distracting attributes of your signature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idontusenumbers (talkcontribs) 19:47, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for offering the above suggestion regarding my signature. I am sensitive to the needs of those with vision problems, and you mentioned the color being a distracting attribute. With that in mind, my new sig is black and white only. Thanks again for taking the time to share your concern.  Gongshow Talk 00:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing the refs for this article. It didn't occur to me to search for Sugarman Three instead of 3. I only wish the original author had done this as I implored him to do repeatedly, or we'd never would've had to go through all this. Good job. Let me see if I've got a barnstar around here somewhere ... oh wait, here we go....

The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
For finding references for The Sugarman 3 when seemingly no one else would, or could, thus saving the article for deletion. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and in relation to your username: "We'll be back with more stuff, right after this." Thank you, Chuck Barris. - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 01:32, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the kind words - I really appreciate them as well as the barnstar! I'm equally thrilled at the Chuck quote, that's always good for a chuckle! Regards,  Gongshow Talk 01:40, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Fang Island[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As u have edited this article b4, would u add to this discussion over the album's genre(s)? Dan56 (talk) 22:41, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dan, I have written some initial thoughts at the PHM talk page. Thanks for bringing the discussion to my attention.  Gongshow Talk 00:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]