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Syrian civil war map

Hi, you could add a major campaigns and battles to the map with a dates. Greetings. Jamiroquai500 (talk) 00:54, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

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Re:Map

That's the problem. See, i got those from The Syrian uprising Information Center 2011 everyday maps, based on what areas are under shelling. In fact, it has already changed some around Damascus.

[1] Here's a good map for Damasucs, which as probably already changed. At least use this. Jacob102699 (talk) 17:38, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

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Please see

Please see Talk:2007–2012_global_financial_crisis#RM_on_hold Smallbones (talk) 15:04, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Misuse of the conflict infobox

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Infobox image

I think the images in the infobox are themselves great but as a collage the overall image is highly unbalanced, from a neutral standpoint. Because three of the four images show the opposition (pro-FSA protest, FSA tank, FSA rocket man) and the fourth image is of a burning house hit by government artillery which was photographed by an opposition activist. I think at least one image of government troops should be presented in the collage. Since you were the original creator do you think you can add to the collage something like that? EkoGraf (talk) 20:07, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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Canvassing

Just as a note, since it is a less than well known wikipedia policy (that I myself probably violated before I knew about it), WP:canvassing is frowned upon. I'm not saying that you were, but in general, if someone is going to contribute to a discussion, they will already have stumbled (or not stumbled, walked right into) that discussion themselves, there is no need to inform them of it, unless it is a dispute that directly involves them. In particular, the Request for Mediation process actually has a bot inform related users, so you definitely don't need to do that. Just informing you, you didn't really do anything wrong, but in a highly charged dispute like this, someone might bring it up. Jeancey (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Syria

Hey, I like that your a frequent and meticulous contributor and all, but I am going to remove that sectarianism paragraph. The lede is only supposed to be five paragraphs, and we go into ALOT of detail anyway in the sectarianism section. Furthermore neither the opposition nor the Syrian government mention that sectarianism plays any major role. Also if you go to "view history" you will see the article is 214,000 Bytes, and it should only be 200k. Basically the article is too long as it is already, and you just added 1500 bytes to it. I7laseral (talk) 01:36, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: New Move Request

I'm not 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain we can't start a new move request until the current one is closed. The removal of "U.S." was done by an admin under reasonable consensus. I agree the current discussion is a horrid mess, but I'm not sure if starting over helps at all; I'd say wait and see if the current efforts to get people to provide input on the various parts pans out. The current discussion does have confusing comments (e.g., people replying before "U.S." was removed, people replying to the temporary move proposal) that I think are hindering consensus-forming, but I'm not sure that a new discussion is going to be any less confusing and contentious. (Unfortunately, the move discussion process was simply not designed for things like breaking news.) – 2001:db8:: (rfc | diff) 00:06, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Mediation

About what happened to "Daniel", you should look at this. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the barnstar! Although I should point out that Sopher99 was the one who noticed the similarity to the main sockmaster :) ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 05:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the barn star too! Sopher99 (talk) 16:57, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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Mediation 2

Thx for the note... --Wüstenfuchs 16:32, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Aleppo city battle map

Just wanted to say that you did a great job with the map of Aleppo. :) But wanted to propose that you change the color of the areas controlled by the Kurds in northern Aleppo. Because they may not be allies of the government but they are also not allies of the rebels and even clashed with the FSA at one point when they tried to enter their areas of control. So basically they are doing their own grab for power, due to which we separated them from the rest of the opposition forces in the campaignbox. I think Wusten and Dimitrish81 also suggested this at the article talk page. EkoGraf (talk) 16:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Syrian civil war map 2

"But ongoing battles in the city of Tal Abyad have resulted in mortars hitting villages in the Turkish town of Akcakale, the town's mayor said, according to Turkey's Anadolu Agency. It was unclear whether there were any casualties."

-CNN, 23 September 2012

Could you add the blue ring around the Tal Abyad. Recently you added it's under rebel control but CNN article says there are clashes between rebels and the Army there. --Wüstenfuchs 19:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

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Battle of Damascus (2012)

Please see the Battle of Damascus (2012). the battle is clearly ongoing as numerous sources make clear (see the article and the article talk page for the sources), but User:EkoGraf is insisting the battle is over, simply because the regime claimed it was over. بروليتاريا (talk) 22:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I am not insisting. Multiple sources have been provided, including a few that are not coming from the regime. And it is not just me, several other editors have also edited the article in a way that the battle is over. The article Battle of Damascus (2012) covers the rebel offensive back from July, which ultimately failed to capture the metropolitan area of Damascus. That was a highly notable event which deserved its own article. The rebel operational name of the battle Damascus volcano was also agreed to after a discussion on the talk page. We already have an article on the current fighting, it is called Rif Dimashq offensive (which covers fighting in and around Damascus). If we try and reopen an old battle than it would be simply content forking, which is not according to Wikipedia rules. It has already been pointed out in the result section of the Battle of Damascus (2012) that the fighting later continued with the offensive. Your sources point to rebel attacks and clashes, which were happening long before the July Battle of Damascus, nothing in the sources about further rebel attempts to capture the metropolitan area of Damascus, which was the stated aim of their operation Damascus Volcano from July. EkoGraf (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Bahrain GA

Thanks for the review and promotion! This the first time an article I contributed to achieves GA status! Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :)-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:01, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

PKK

Did my best, added The Australian source. Source specificly says the PKK are Assad-backed. EkoGraf (talk) 00:05, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Maarrat al-Nu'man

Just created it Battle of Maarrat al-Nu'man. What do you think? EkoGraf (talk) 14:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Looks great. I've added a map about the town's strategic importance. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:01, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Nusra

Done. ;) EkoGraf (talk) 01:12, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

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Highway map

On your highway map you put saraqib as green, but it should be red with a blue ring. Just because there has been no news about it doesn't mean it is controlled by the government. For example, Jabal al Zawiya is controlled by rebels but there has been no news about Jabal al Zawiya because you have to get through places like Ariha or Kafrenbel to get there. The lastest news from saraqib are just pictures, but heres something http://news.yahoo.com/photos/member-free-syrian-army-jumps-form-military-vehicle-photo-205738411.html Sopher99 (talk) 15:03, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done -Due to the unclear situation, I've changed it to blue. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Copy and paste move

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Aleppo shortening

You want to look at Battle of Aleppo and try to do your magic to try and shorten the other sections? :) I think the first three sections, Rebel attack and capture of Eastern Aleppo, Fighting intensifies and Army reinforcements sent, Salaheddine raid are short enough. From Continued Opposition offensive onwards work needs to be done. EkoGraf (talk) 17:26, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I think I found Izaa, finally hehehe. An editor who is from Aleppo wrote in the main article for September 8 and I quote SOHR reported that the Syrian Army advanced in the Sa'ad al-Ansari (Iza'a), Saif al-Dawla and Salaheddine neighborhoods following the withdrawal of rebel forces after heavy shelling. The only district I found in Aleppo on the wikimap that has the word al-Ansari in it is the al-ansari mashhad district [4] Its wedged in between Saif al-Dawla and Sukari. That area is simply colored as rebel-held at the moment and the area in front of it, ard as-sabbagh, is colored as contested. Ard as-Sabbagh has had no reports of any fighting in it and since its in front of the contested al-Ansari (Izaa) I am assuming its government controlled. Also, since the failed rebel offensive last month, there have been no reports of any fighting in Izaa, with at least one report (I showed you earlier) saying its now government-controlled. Which I think is logical because the military reported capturing (with AFP providing photos) of the al-Ameria and Tal az-Zarazir districts, which are right in front of al-Ansari as well, just a bit more to the south. I'm just speculating at the moment, but based on what I told you see if you can make any conclusions on the situation in that area. Only reports of fighting coming out from that southwestern part of the city are from the areas of Saif al-Dawla and Sukari at the moment. EkoGraf (talk) 17:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 Partly done -I'm not entirely convinced that al-ansari mashhad is the same thing as Izza. I think Sopher mentioned once that Izza refers to the TV station. Not sure if he's right though. I have colored al-Ameria and Tal az-Zarazir to be under Army control, due to the reports you have mentioned. However, I'm not sure about Ard as-Sabbagh. I've colored most of it unclear for now. I have doubts that al-ansari mashhad is contested. It seems too deep into rebel territory. Of course if you find more sources, I'd happy to change anything. As for the Aleppo article, thanks for reminding me. The early sections includes a lot of big changing events, which justifies their lengths. Some of the other sections, on the other hand, need to be shortened. I'll try to do that soon.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 21:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
You are probably right about al-Ansar, like I said I was just speculating. As for the TV station, per the map its an area between saif al-dawla and bustan al-qaser, and there is no name to it. So not sure how accurate that is. Maybe its not Izaa. You could try asking user Preacherlad because he said he is from Aleppo where Izaa really is. As for the shortening, thanks! :) EkoGraf (talk) 21:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Hehe, yup its funny. XD But I think they can take it due to Wikipedia policy that anything and everything you contribute to Wikipedia can be changed or used by others due to us not having copy rights on or works here on Wikipedia. EkoGraf (talk) 23:37, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks like 17laseral reverted the map edit. Oh well. Perhaps you can convince him by providing the links to those sources.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Good work on the shortening. Do you think you could get any image grabs that are not copyrighted of government soldiers for the article? Because I think there are too many images of rebels in the article and it makes it unbalanced in that regard. EkoGraf (talk) 20:46, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, the vast majority of free images about Syria are either from VOA or from flickr, where activists post photos. Since the Syrian government has banned independent media in the country, it's very difficult to find free images of the Syrian military. Thanks for pointing this out. I'll try to find some. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 20:53, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay I found free images of the Syrian Army from videos on Youtube. Unfortunately they are all low quality, but I guess that should do. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Syrian Civil War

I was wondering how I can add information on the Syrian Civil War without you erasing it. Should I include sources because my information is really good and accurate. Everything I say is right i can verifty it Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popcorn1101 (talk • contribs)

  • I'll just jump in here. You should ALWAYS provide your sources. That is likely the main reason the info keeps getting removed, because it is unsourced. Jeancey (talk) 01:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Seems to be very interesting.... for myself I am a real witness of the ongoing crisis in Aleppo... I took many photos in many areas by myself, but I can not force anybody to accept my story as long as they are not backed with reliable sources.--Preacher lad (talk) 05:34, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Izaa in Aleppo

Well. Iza'a means the "Radio station". On your map, the area which is commonly called Iza'a could be found between Saif al-Dawla and Bustan al-Qaser, just to the south of the TV station. The official name of the area is Sa'ad al-Ansari, but it is generally known as Iza'a district.--Preacher lad (talk) 05:13, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
for your tireless contribution to the malala article.good work Harishrawat11 (talk) 15:23, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 16:58, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

On "vandalism"

The individual continually re-adding unsourced parties to the Syrian infobox may be an annoyance, but is not a vandal. See WP:NOTVAND. I suspect that the individual is confused by the mediawiki interface and is unsure of how user talk pages work (I've seen this sort of thing before). The changes are good-faith, but the user clearly has some communication problems. You should refrain from using the term "vandalism" for such editing. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
your work is appreciated --Alhanuty (talk) 00:35, 20 October 2012‎

Thanks! -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:28, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Chart

I think it would be interesting if we put in the infobox the black-red-green colored chart this site has for the amount of individual people killed each day since mar 15th to present. It would give readers a good sense of how the intensity of the uprising and war progressed.

http://syrianshuhada.com/?lang=en&

Sopher99 (talk) 02:47, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I can easily make a chart like that, but I'm going to need reliable data. Is that data reliable? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:51, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
It is run by the Syrian national Council. All we have to say is that the chart shows the Syrian National council's, an opposition group, records. Sopher99 (talk) 02:53, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Oh wait. Which do you think is better: a graph showing the number of deaths per day (like the SNC chart) or the total deaths over time. I think I like the total deaths over time type better because (1) it's much easier to make and (2) there's reliable data I can use from the Guardian [5] -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay then, deaths over time. Sopher99 (talk) 03:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 Done -Nevermind, I made both. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 22:54, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Maarat al-Numaan contested

This is about the Syrian civil war map. The town should be in blue. ([6]; also check SANA's latest news). --Wüstenfuchs 23:05, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Fighting is only occurring at one of the entrances, which is why the town has a blue ring around it. If the fighting spreads into the town, then I'll definitely change the color. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:09, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
Yes, you are right. --Wüstenfuchs 23:14, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Al-Qusayr, still under siege?

No there is no need to change that article. The Battle of Qusayr article deals with the battle that lasted until April and ended in a stalemate with the military controlling the southern part of the town and the rebels the northern part. In the aftermath section there is already enough information about the FSA offensive 2-3 months later that finally captured the town but it's also noted that eventually the military again managed to set up a siege of the town and were even controlling the main street running through Qusayr. At one point it was discussed on the talk page of the article to branch off the Aftermath section into a separate article on the FSA offensive that captured the city, however it was eventually decided the event was less notable than the initial battle until April that ended in a stalemate. If the military eventually recaptures the town we will update the Aftermath section to reflect this. EkoGraf (talk) 01:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Jisr al-Shughour

I think you should change Jisr al-Shughour to government-controlled but with a blue ring around it at the Syria civil war map and the Syria M5 Highway map. Because, the latest report from today, by a rebel officer, says and I quote [7] Hmood said that if rebels could take the base (at Maarat) and secure the highway, they could intensify efforts to cut Assad's second main supply line to the north - the road from Latakia to Aleppo that passes through the town of Jisr al-Shughour. "If we liberate these barracks we will be able to protect our backs and move on to Jisr al-Shughour from which we can block supplies and reinforcement coming form Latakia," So that means the rebels are yet to advance on to Jisr al-Shughour. EkoGraf (talk) 13:30, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done -This map seems to confirm that, although it's from september: [8]. I'll also try to add that second highway on the map soon. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 13:40, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I added the M4 Highway that goes from Jisr al-Shughour to Ariha to Saraqeb to M5, but is this the second supply route the rebel officer was talking about, or is he talking about the road that goes from Jisr al-Shughour to to Ariha to Idlib to Aleppo? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
I think he was talking about Ariha-Taftanaz-Aleppo, because Saraqib has reportedly been captured by the rebels last week. So they can only go through Taftanaz, north of Ariha. EkoGraf (talk) 15:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Main civil war article

Future this is something I highly disagree with you. You don't break the chronology of events of a conflict to start talking about the specific combatants or foreign involvement in the middle of it. Every conflict article has a separate section for the combatants or foreign interference, independent from the chronology of events. I will give you examples: Vietnam War - first goes the course of the war, and than at the end of it there is the section called Other countries' involvement - Pro-Hanoi and Pro-Saigon; Iraq War - first goes the course of the war, and than at the end of it there are the two sections called Role of Saudi Arabia and non-Iraqis and Alleged Iranian involvement; Iran–Iraq War - first goes the course of the war, and than at the end of it there are the two sections called Home front - Iraq and Iran and Foreign support to Iraq and Iran; Soviet war in Afghanistan - first goes the course of the war, and than at the end of it there is the section called Foreign involvement and U.S. aid to the mujahideen...I can list more. The breakdown among combatants and the section on foreign involvement go separately from the course of the war section. We mention all of that in the course of the war section also yes, but only in short summarazing sentences, and than after that go into more detail in their own separate sections. That's how its been done up until now at the other conflict articles as well. Also, your way makes it look like the Uprising and the Civil war are two different events with putting those sections in the middle of them, when they are both one and the same event that has evolved over time. EkoGraf (talk) 00:09, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Those two sections you keep reinserting into the middle talk about events over both 2011 and 2012, than you switch back in the later sections to an earlier time in the conflict. And that's why I said it's breaking continuity. I will explain. Beginings of protests through Formation of opposition groups covers March through August 2011. Than your two sections talk all the way to October 2012. Than Armed clashes switches back to September 2011 (where we left of in Formation of opposition groups) and continues properly to the present day in Battles of Damascus and Aleppo. So its best to talk about the whole conflict in one go, with summarazing mentions of the main combatants, and than later talk at length about those combatants and their support. EkoGraf (talk) 00:42, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I didn't really like the split version either, for similar reasons to the ones you mentioned. The reason why I changed was because it seems to make more sense for the participants of the war to be introduced before the events of the war. However, putting those two sections before "Uprising and civil war" is probably inappropriate, because a lot of the parties didn't surface until months after the uprising began, such as the FSA, Kurds, and Jihadists, so I put them in the middle of the chronology, roughly between the formation of the FSA and the escalation of clashes. Now obviously that doesn't work perfectly because those two sections contained events outside of the period I placed them in.

What I really wanted is to just have a smooth narrative of the conflict, such as these featured articles:Finnish Civil War, Mozambican War of Independence, War of the Fifth Coalition. They all go like this: Background, Course of the war, Aftermath. No sections specializing on the combatants of the war. The combatants descriptions are naturally worked into the narrative. I don't want a section in the Syrian civil war article specifically describing the combatants or foreign involvement. I want it all to just be worked into the chronology. It's going to be a big project, and to be honest, I don't really know where to start. Perhaps organize it to be more like the Libyan civil war article? -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:48, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

I get what you are saying. I highly support you in writing at length and comprehensively about each of the combatants. It's just that I think it would be chronologically confusing for readers by putting those sections in the middle like that. I checked other articles, seems the Lebanese Civil War has its own combatants/parties section which is placed right after the background and before the course of the war section. Although I agree with you that in the case of the Syrian war article that it feels wrong placing the section before the description of the course of the conflict. I think what may be best is to simply integrate all of the combatant section into the narrative of the development of the war, chronologicly appropriate of course. Thus we remove the combatants section all-together since most conflict articles don't even have them as you said, they mostly have the foreign support sections. I would support this. But maybe you should propose it first at the talk page since there may be editors that wouldn't agree. EkoGraf (talk) 18:24, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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Iran-Iraq War

Hey! I've been fixing up the Iran–Iraq War article in preparation for nominating it for GA, but it is really long. Any chance you could take a look and use those magic summarizing powers you have on it? :) Thanks in advance! Jeancey (talk) 02:21, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks like after 1982, the war became a stalemate. I think it's safe to do a some bits of summarizing for the 1983-1988 period in the Course of the war section. I'll see what I can do. I'm probably gonna need a day or two to read the article first.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:30, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
The GPDL thing translates as "All the stuff under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) to be released," So i would assume that, yes, the images are usable :) Jeancey (talk) 02:33, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
hmm.... if they are already using free images, then I would assume that we would be able to use them too. Maybe if they gave the original site for the images, we could just link it to those sites, assuming they are valid. Jeancey (talk) 15:06, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Hezbollah flag

Since you reverted yourself I don't know if you already realized it, but I didn't remove the flags because they violated copyrights. Their use in that article almost assuredly wouldn't even violate fair use of the images. The catch is the Wikipedia's policy and guideline regarding non-free content is intentionally and explicitly stricter than that required by the law. Just let me know if you have any questions or concerns about my edit there. VernoWhitney (talk) 16:31, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Hezbollah is deemed a terrorist organization by the United States, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and Israel. The flag should be public domain at least in the U.S., because, because of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which prohibits terrorist organizations from participating in commerce in the United States. Because they have no rights over this image in the United States, and because no other party has rights over this image, it is in the public domain in the United States.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 16:53, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Being prohibited from engaging in commerce isn't necessarily the same as not having copyright unless there's a law (or regulation/case law/etc.) that says so. If there's a source or a series of sources which establish that this image is in the public domain, so much the better. Until and unless that can be established, however, the image is subject to the same restrictions as every other piece of non-free content we host.
Now I agree that they're not likely to sue for copyright infringement, but if that was our only criteria then we'd also have freer access to a large quantity of other copyrighted media, such as abandonware. Changing our stance on such copyrighted content however would be a fairly significant policy change, however, and could even run afoul of the Wikimedia Foundation's mandate regarding non-free content, so would certainly require significant community input. VernoWhitney (talk) 17:03, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Spreadsheet

Would you be able to share your spreadsheet of deaths per week that you used to create your table? I would be forever thankful. Cleotkll

I can't upload it on wikipedia, but I can send you an email, if you give me your email adress.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:54, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

That would be fabulous - thanks. Cleotkll 02:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Alright I think I sent it. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:05, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks :) Cleotkll

Re: NFCC

Honestly, I have no clue about the fine print of copyright policy. Take things up at WP:MCQ, maybe they'll have an answer. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 18:51, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

hurricane sandy

i was hit by hurricane sandy and internet was out for three days,so i couldn't edit any article during this period Alhanuty (talk) 20:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Interesting, I live in NC, and my area experienced strong winds and a brief power outage. I hope your okay.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 21:02, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

i live in nj Alhanuty (talk) 00:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, the state that was worst hit. Again, I hope you and your neighborhood have a good recovery.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:29, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

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syrian civil war map 3

it isn't idealistic to keep the green color as the loyalist color and brown as the rebel color representing the cites under opposition or government control because syria should be different than,i suggest that we change the green color to red for government control and the brown color to dark green for rebel control Alhanuty (talk) 01:22, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, a lot of people are accustomed to the war map for the Libyan civil war, which is why the colors are the way they are. I'm afraid a lot of people might not like such a change. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

You can write red represents the government and dark green represents the rebels Alhanuty (talk) 01:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

i think that the syrian civil war map must be different than the libyan civil war map Alhanuty (talk) 01:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I've opened a discussion at the Syrian civil war talk page to request opinion. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 01:48, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

thank for it Alhanuty (talk) 01:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

i think no one is going to oppose the change Alhanuty (talk) 22:17, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, there's a lot of towns and cities on that map, and I can be very lazy sometimes. Sorry, but I just really don't see an urgent need to change it, considering there's a legend right below it.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 03:50, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

for the new map of south syria front add in harasta saqba kafrbatna zamalka arbeen Alhanuty (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

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Proposal to move Colombian civil war (1964-present) back to Colombian armed conflict (1964-present)

Hi Futuretrillion. Forich would like to reopen the RfC about the article name for Colombian civil war (1964–present). Your comments on the talk page for that article would be much appreciated. FiachraByrne (talk) 18:31, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Credible sources

What do you consider a credible sources? Do you consider SOHR and Aljazeera. If you do then SANA sure is a very credible source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avinza (talk • contribs) 01:26, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: sock

Definitely looks sketchy. Don't think it's Chronical or any notorious puppeteer that I know of. It could just be that this IP made an account, given that Aviza picks up after the last IP edit. I'll keep an eye on things. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 04:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. For now it looks like that IP's established an account. Sopher99 (talk) 06:32, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
It will be nice if we look in the essence of the comments and not their ID, except if we dont like to hear some things....that are not in the direction of our own opinion. Tolerance is something valuable to the countries with democracy.--Dimitrish81 (talk) 16:23, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Financial crisis and recession

I think it would be better if you separated out your merge proposal from you move proposal on Talk:Financial crisis of 2007–2008. Having both issues discussed at once is going to muddy things, and I, at least, consider the move proposal as beneficial and uncontroversial while the merge proposal is very debatable. Thanks for alerting me to the discussion, btw.--Bkwillwm (talk) 01:53, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

2008–2012 global recession

I removed three of the four templates, RM and RfC at Talk:2008–2012 global recession and at Talk:Financial crisis of 2007–2008 because the discussion was moved to 2008–2012 global recession, and because the process is that an RfC takes precedence over an RM - both ask for input, and duplicate each other. While an RM lasts only a week, an RfC typically stays open for a month. If the outcome of the RfC is to move the article(s), that can either be done by the closing admin, or by a technical request at WP:RM. Apteva (talk) 18:58, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

National Coalition for Syrian Revolutionary and Opposition Forces

Can you please update its map, putting Turkey to dark green for complete recognition of the coalition. I7laseral (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:59, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou. I7laseral (talk) 15:01, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Looks like you can add Italy too now. Sopher99 (talk) 17:44, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

 Done -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Nevermind, someone reverted it. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:55, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
They shouldn't have. Because these countries CEASE recognition of the Syrian government, even if they do not recognize the NC as a government. Sopher99 (talk) 18:58, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm confused. Should we add Turkey, Italy, and the UK or not? Do we need a different color?-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

We don't add Italy, I read the source and it doesn't say Sole. We keep Turkey, and Please add UK now that they recognized it as the sole legitimate representative I further altered the map notation to include cease of recognition. If you recognize side as the sole representative, you are ceasing recognition of the other side. Sopher99 (talk) 15:48, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Jordan protest image

Hi, user. I want to say thank you for uploading those images. Your contribution to the article is very appreciated since nobody has updated that 2011-2012 Jordanian protest article, therefore a lot of older event has gone unnoticed. If you have some time, could you invite some of your Wiki user partners to help expand it? Its fine if you don't want to. Thanks again. Myronbeg (talk) 03:42, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Okay I've added to some of the missing events in the timeline. Unfortunately, Jordan doesn't get much attention because it's a small country.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 04:56, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Battle of Maarat al Numan Map

Your work has appeared on Iranian TV ^^ (link) --83.59.131.96 (talk) 23:09, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

LOL. They're stealing my work! Oh well. I guess that's just one of the downsides of working for Wikipedia.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 23:40, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

how do you edit maps

how can i edit the batle of aleppo map — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhanuty (talk • contribs) 14:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Since this is a svg map, you need to download Inkscape. Google it. It's free. On Commons, click on the map to enlarge it to full size, which is bigger than the browser. Then right-click on the image and click "save as...". A window should pop up with lines "File name" and "Save as type". Make sure the second line says "SVG document". After saving it somewhere, open it up with Inkscape, and you can edit the map. After you're done editing it, go to its Commons page, scroll down over the numerous previous revisions, and click on "Upload a new version of this file". A window will pop up and you select the Inkscape file you edited. Write a edit summary in "File changes:" and click upload file. Wait for a few minutes. You might need to close the browser and open another one for it to update. Then you're done. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk)

Proposal to split battle of maarat al numan and siege of Wadi Dief.

I think we should cut those 2 distinct battles. The battle for the city of Maarat al numan is over and the FSA is in full control of it. The Wadi Dief base which is actually besieged is in the outskirts of Maarat al numan and not the city. Amedjay (talk) 18:00, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

SNC map

Put Spain as chartrousse http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArticleDetails.aspx?ID=461779

Actually for that matter put the entire European union other than France and Britain as Chartrouse, since the EU recognized them. 18:13, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

how do you makemaps

how do you make maps,because i am planning to make a map for idlib and aleppo governate — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhanuty (talk • contribs) 02:45, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Please don't make more maps. They are hard to update due to lack of sources.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

this is about idlib and aleppo where situations change frequently — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alhanuty (talk • contribs) 03:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Colombian armed conflict

I've added a new reference that questions the decision of moving the Colombian armed conflict entry to a new name that uses the "civil war" adjective. The link here: [[9]]--Forich (talk) 06:33, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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you can make a map of the areas under rebel control

make a map for the areas under rebel control as the one did in libya aand here is the source http://www.understandingwar.org/map/campaign-northern-syria-november-2012 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.208.70 (talk) 18:15, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. That looks like a good map. We already have a map for Syria. You can find here:Syrian civil war#Second ceasefire attempt. I'll make sure to update it soon.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 18:55, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

not the cities,but the areas and territories in syria rebels dark green ,regime red and kurds pink— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.208.70 (talk • contribs)

How can I add new districts?

Please Future help me, I don't know how to add new districts on the map of the battle of Aleppo. Also I saw on the old discussions that you didn't know where christian districts were located. The christian districts are the one situated between the kurdish area and the citadel. Like Jedidah. Thanks in advance. Amedjay (talk) 16:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Damascus airport

Add arrows toward the airport there fighting occurring near to it Alhanuty (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

The international airport is actually not on the map. I'll add it later. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 21:22, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
I made a new proposal at Talk:Rif Dimashq campaign. EkoGraf (talk) 15:42, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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December 2012

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Aleppo Battle 2012

Dear FutureTrillionaire, I saw you did not include your previous changes to the Battle of Aleppo map concerning the Syrian Arab Army advancement into Shaar, Sakhour (controlling vast parts of it and installing artillery units, which means a stable ground-based presence there), al-Ansari. Shaar and Sakhour from Bustan al-Basha indicate a Syrian Army advance towards Aleppo International Airport, which can still be reached by government taxis and vehicles as both CNN, foreign ARD reporters (German), FARS Iranian News Agency, SANA Syrian State Press Agency and other correspondents confirm. Amedjay and certain other users here are part of a paid blogger and internet corps as to portray an excessive success of the rebels in Aleppo (and Rif Dimashq) not in accord with any reality on the ground. Why would the Syrian Army in Aleppo be able to advance towards the airport, if the southwest army bases were under attack or the Justice Palace in the northwest. I think your great map needs to the changes you added on December 11, which were reverted by Amedjay who clearly has POV views of this conflict. Neutrality requires multiple sources and refraining from such reverts by Amedjay and others. The map in WikiCommons should now have brown/olive for Shaar and Sakhour and al-Ansari too. The SAA is attempting to enclose the southern Aleppo city centre rebels. However the claims that Bustan al-Basha is already entirely under full Army control are false (although 70 % was on Dec 10). I think I am neutral on these articles. We cannot have wikipedia become a State Department, political or Free Syrian Army or Jihadist success "frontpage". This is no newspaper.NiederlandeFW (talk) 10:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

NiedelandeFW There is no important government advance firstly, and there is a slow rebel advance secondly,and alot of reports confirm that the FSA is in control of most of bustan al basha ,but there is government presense in south of the district, talking about neutrality, the articles has neutral prospective on the events and you have to refrain yourself from personal attacks on other editors,and the government forces are pinned down and they aren't going to even hold Aleppo for a long time,and the map is good and doesn't need change,and you can't judge yourself to be neutral,others editors decide that. Alhanuty (talk) 21:17, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Hand-coding

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I'm dropping you a note because you've been involved in dealing with feedback from the Article Feedback Tool. To get a better handle on the overall quality of comments now that the tool has become a more established part of the reader experience, we're undertaking a round of hand coding - basically, taking a sample of feedback and marking each piece as inappropriate, helpful, so on - and would like anyone interested in improving the tool to participate :).

You can code as many or as few pieces of feedback as you want: this page should explain how to use the system, and there is a demo here. Once you're comfortable with the task, just drop me an email at okeyes@wikimedia.org and I'll set you up with an account :).

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South Syria map

(Posting here since it'll likely get done fastest) ISW came out with a good examination of the current battle for Damascus, including maps [11]. The map for the southern front should be updated to reflect this (e.g. Harasta has never been under rebel control). Apparently there's chatter that Yarmouk has been stormed; maybe we should think about a map for Damascus city like the Aleppo one? ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 01:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done (assuming Commons isn't lagging again) -Nice find. I probably reuse Mr.penguin20's Battle of Aleppo map if the rebels do manage gain significant ground inside the capital. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 02:00, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Lothar and Darayya, why not spend the city "challenged". Videos of Russian television channels show that the army entered the city while the battle is still ongoing. In Yarmouk, it seems that the refugee camp has been infiltrated and battles take place Maurcich (talk) 16:14, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

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Siege of Homs

You said that Siege of Homs is not the official term. Well, simply I don't see that being true because that has been the common name used in the media for the most part. And they were referring to the city, not just rebel-held neighborhoods, the rebels anyway held 2/3 of the city at one point. The Siege of Sarajevo was called the Siege of Sarajevo even though you had Serb-held, Muslim-held and Croat-held areas of the city. Here are some of the sources [12][13][14][15][16][17]. I can find more if you like and I will add some of these to the article, to the name in the first sentence so it is properly sourced. Ok? As for the changing of the status, it wasn't me that changed it, it was changed more than a week ago by someone else, but I agree with it, because a siege of the city no longer exists, the only thing still under siege is the Old City area. EkoGraf (talk) 11:53, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Language such as The Siege of Homs is a term used by the media to describe... for a lead into a battle article is first of un-encyclopedic. You haven't seen us put the same sentence in the lead for Battle of Damascus or Battle of Aleppo? We name events per the common name. And the common name is Siege of Homs, independent from wether we think in our personal opinion its a proper description or not. The name of the article has been such for the last year and a half and was agreed to by editors at the start when it was created. Besides, at least one of the sources I provided you with had opposition activsts calling it a siege and not the journalists. EkoGraf (talk) 16:38, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
Nice replacement map for Homs you made. EkoGraf (talk) 14:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, I didn't actaully made it. It came from http://www.openstreetmap.org/, where all the maps are published under a free license. I just added the districts. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Events in Hama

I am going make and begin an article called the Hama offensive, you are welcomed to help me in it and bring other editors for the new article Alhanuty (talk) 22:44, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I recommend you to not do this yet. The operation is just starting. There's not going to be a lot of information to create an article until a few days. I think it's best to wait at least a day, and see how this plays out. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

The rebel forces made huge gains they gained control over numerous cities and checkpoints during the last 72 hours,I think we should begin it Alhanuty (talk) 22:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Look, we can add this info to the main Syrian civil war page. But right now, it's a bit too early because of lack of information. There's no rush. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 22:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Some articles were began in the same day the event occurred futuretrillionaire Alhanuty (talk) 23:13, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Franco as "dictator"

Whilst I accept that "dictator" has negative connotations, in relation to Francoist Spain such a description is widely used in reliable sources. Probably the leading writer on Franco, Stanley Payne uses the word in a chapter title in The Franco Regime: 1936-1975, among news sources the word is frequent: BBC, Telegraph; and some books on dictatorships use the term: [18]. I've only spent a few minutes digging those out, although I'm guessing you probably agree he was a dictator, merely disagree about the use of the term here. Francoist Spain is correctly described as a dictatorship (I can't see any alternative, except maybe "autocratic" something) and the nature of the state set up after the Civil War is relevant and useful to a discussion of the civil war. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for Syrian Civil War map.

Wooops. Looks like I made some mess in that map . I'm sorry. All what I wanted was to make Hama and Jishr Shugur unclear. Amedjay (talk) 18:44, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Comment at Science collaboration of the month

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Re: Your comment on Talk:Assassination of Tomomitsu Taminato

The page is up for deletion here if you want to pitch in? :D A merge is problematic, since the only literature that does cover the event seems to claim it was a significant contributing factor to the breakout of the Sino-Japanese War. Therefore, that article seems the only natural merge location, but claiming it was a significant contributing cause there is definitely fringe/POV. elvenscout742 (talk) 13:23, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Maarrat al-Nu'man

Hi, a video posted today announced that Maarrat al-Nu'man and around the base of Wadi Deif ontété "cleaned" the presence of rebels, what do t-us? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=363_1356271251 Maurcich (talk) 19:37, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

First. It's better to post this stuff on the main Syrian civil war talk page, so other people can examine it also. Second, if it's not a reliable source, we can't use it. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 19:43, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks Maurcich (talk) 20:02, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Hama

Future, please revert Hama city back to government-held with a blue ring around it. All news reports are stating that the major fighting of the offensive is for now contained in the rural western areas of the province. A battle for the city has not yet started. Amedjay jumped the gun on that one. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

please revert althawrah to blue,because rebels and government forceshhas both check points in the city . Alhanuty (talk) 00:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Tet offensive

Hi Futuretrillionaire. I moved the discussion to Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Tet Offensive/1 to try and get more responses. AIRcorn (talk) 08:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Science collaboration of the month

Hello Futuretrillionaire. Over the past several months, I've made attempts to improve participation at this collaboration and have worked to keep it going. Since you showed some interest in it in October, just a reminder that you should please feel free to propose nominations at any time there. This doesn't obligate you or anyone to work on the articles. Just a friendly note, and happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 11:21, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Maraat al-Numan

I don't know if you're editing the Syrian civil war map... the one with circles in every town. But Maraat al-Numan should be changed to green with blue circle. Check the article and see the ref used there (it's in the infobox). It says that rebels are trying to gain control over Maraat al-Numan, so it is probably held by the Army now with some rebel attacks. Please, check the ref, and inform me if I'm wrong, maybe I made a wrong conclusion. --Wüstenfuchs 14:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Thats a misinterpretation. The Syrian army is shelling the city and the rebels are attacking the wadi al deif base and the Syrian army has been sending tank to assault maarat al numan. The only way to "liberate maraat al numan" is to destroy the base, of course. Sopher99 (talk) 14:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The recent photo of this article clearly shows the city under rebel control:[19] -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

The picture does not show any rebel controlling a city, but just people burrying dead people in a funerals ceremony. Funerals ceremony happen even in non rebel held towns. --Genoj' (talk) 14:54, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Read the caption:"killed during fighting with forces loyal to Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad." They are dead rebel fighters. Syrian security forces usually fire on such funeral demonstrations. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 14:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

"Syrian security forces usually fire on such funeral demonstrations".

It seems that your opinion is not linked to a website. You would need a solid source stating that the Army is firing on every funeral in the country to make such a claim and to use this picture as a contradiction to a full CNN report. --Genoj' (talk) 15:01, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Discuss it here: Talk:Syrian civil war#Maarrat al-Nu'man-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Done, some hours ago and nobody responded exepted Maurich, which seems to agree with the CNN report and which provided other videos to strengthen the evidence. --Genoj' (talk) 15:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

I said this above. Thats a misinterpretation. The Syrian army is shelling the city and the rebels are attacking the wadi al deif base and the Syrian army has been sending tank to assault maarat al numan. The only way to "liberate maraat al numan" is to destroy the base, of course. Sopher99 (talk) 16:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

http://jordantimes.com/article/44-die-as-syria-jets-blast-rebel-held-town I think this puts the debate to an end. Sopher99 (talk) 16:06, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


Well well so Genoj was our friend ChronicalUsual after all. Explains alot. Sopher99 (talk)

Smelled that one from a mile away.... ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 19:51, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Syria death-toll pictures

Both of the pictures you added concerning the death-toll of the Syrian war are now more than two months outdated. If you could bring them back up to date it would improve the quality of the article. Have a good day, --Philpill691 (talk) 20:58, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for reminding me. I've updated those graphs. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

your comment on Talk:2012 Italian shooting in the Arabian Sea

Hi Futuretrillionaire (nice nickname BTW), I notice your comment on talk page as per subject. My idea is that the problem there is that too few editors, deeply polarized towards pro-Indian and pro-Italian sides (possibly including myself), and some of whom I suspect to be socket puppets, are working on that article. The result consists of never-ending debates on the talk page,and possibly a not too much self-consistent and readable article, due to the many compromises, coupled with the objectively controversial nature of the subject. I think that some fresh eyes, possibly non-polarized and a bit knowledgeable about at least some of the involved subjects, such as international law, military procedures and practices, international relations and diplomacy, etc. could help a lot to improve the situation.

However, all the attempts I did in order to attract the attention of some other editor (I opened the RFC you formally closed, posted a controversy I had with another editor on the 3O page, posted invitation to review on the Wikiprojects International Law and International relations respective talk pages) gave very little results.

Do you have any suggestion? thanks in advance.

LNCSRG (talk) 23:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't really know. I've taken a closer look at past discussions and it looks like that there are some strong disputes, especially in the legal topics. This also seems to be indicated by the large amounts of info in the sections of the article entailed "Major disputes" and "Other issues". I'd recommend to try to keep things simple and stick with secondary sources, and be careful of WP:SYNTHESIS. Compromise is usually the best temporary solution in these cases. If more POV concerns arise and lead to long debates, I recommend taking it to WP:DRN. Maybe better secondary sources will come along after the court proceedings are over.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 00:18, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
OK, thanks LNCSRG (talk) 11:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Socialism

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How can I create my user page?

Hello FutureTrlionnaire , can you tell me how to create my user page as you do? Amedjay (talk) 21:21, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, apparently you already have one, although there's much in it. If you're looking for userboxes, see here: Wikipedia:Userboxes/Gallery. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 21:25, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you , I created one but the pictures are small how can I make them grow up? Amedjay (talk) 22:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

The pictures in the userbox? You can't change the size of those. If want a big picture of the French Flag, you can just add a picture of the French flag onto your userpage, and adjust the size. For info on how to do that, see here: WP:IMGSIZE. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 22:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Alright , thanks i'll do that later. --Amedjay (talk) 23:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I added a babel userbox , did I do it right? --Amedjay (talk) 13:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Also can you tell me in which way can I obtain a barnstar, is it when you make good work? --Amedjay (talk) 13:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah you're babel is correct. You get barnstars by going to the WP:Reward board and do some work there. There are also special events at some WikiProjects in which there are opportunities to get barnstars. Another option is to simply wait and continue to edit. Someone will give you one eventually if your're work is good. It might take a while. Personally, I don't really care about barnstars. They're nice to have, but they're not very important to me.-- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you think that someday I could get a barnstar? Even if it takes a while? --Amedjay (talk) 17:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

WWII map

Aside from the fact that Gibraltar is still missing, it looks good. Thanks again for cleaning up these things that I'm too technologically inept to take care of on my own. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Palestinian casualties

Need your help here Talk:Casualties of the Syrian civil war#i change the "palestine" section in foreign civilians killed. EkoGraf (talk) 04:20, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I am still having trouble with that guy, I simply can not explain to him that he can not make unsourced OR edits. And he is of the opinion that the reason you are not engaged in the discussion anymore is because he convinced you that he is right. :P EkoGraf (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Science collaboration of the month

From: Northamerica1000(talk) 07:05, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

United States fiscal cliff is under review requied status; not good

Dear Futuretrillionaire,

Please contact someone to review my recent change to the fiscal cliff article. Also, please change the status to semi-protected status. It would help to reduce the IP vandalism but maintain the high level of timelyness. Thank you in advance. Geraldshields11 (talk) 15:18, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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