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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022

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Unsourced Claims on Article 'Bongani Khumalo'

Hello,

I have recently been editing the article for the South African footballer Bongani Khumalo

I have noticed the user Bazzascott1234 has been continously adding unsourced claims to the article, mostly about the person's supposed gaming career - I've done research into these claims but I have not found a single source to back this up. I also added "Citation Needed" tags but the user has not provided any sources and is constantly undoing any changes I make.

I'm just asking you because you dealt with this user previously in this revision to undo his unsourced claims. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. Mr Stroganoff (talk) 21:59, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

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Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022

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The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022

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Hello!

Hi, Eternal Shadow,

I noticed that you tagged some expiring drafts tonight. I use to see you do this all of the time but it seems like you have been away from Wikipedia for a while. I hope everything has been okay and you have just been busy with off-wiki life. Welcome back! Liz Read! Talk! 03:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I have been very busy off-wiki and I am very glad to be back editing. Eternal Shadow Talk 23:32, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Theo Alcántara

Thanks for your note re imminent expiration of Theo Alcántara. Yes, you may allow it to expire.

The review comments were so absurdly and disingenuously distant from any written wikirules that it wasn't worth spending more time to overcome them. "Reads like a resume?" Bullshit. That rule only applies to autobiographical pages. Certain things are primary source? (a) Bullshit, they're secondary in any reasonable definition of the term, and (b) the wikirule doesn't ban primary sources, only cautions on appropriate use. Several of the other comments have no visible grounding in any wikirule -- a couple of the reviewers were just making stuff up.

I made several good efforts to negotiate with the reviewers. Negotiating with people who read and think at a sixth grade level is simply not worth the effort.

My contributions page used to show good, active, valuable, scholarly contributions by a national expert on a few topics (U.S. administrative law especially -- there are only a couple dozen people in the world that could have written Executive Order 12866). I've learned my lesson. You will note my contributions have fallen to near zero since this episode.

I think I have the text saved somewhere. If you give me an email address or some similar contact point, I'll be happy to send it to you and you can post it. I'm not spending any more time on it (or significant time on anything else).

Thanks for the heads up, and farewell.

DCLawwyer (talk) 01:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Fazl edit

Hi, I did explain in the edit summary. If you go through the refs it shows that the same link is used multiple times throughout the section and its not from a neutral point of view/source because the videos are from his political parties youtube channel. Also the other videos are in Urdu with no translation. Toomanyyearskodakblack (talk) 04:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Jonathan Wyatt (Emergency Physician)

Hi, thank you for the feedback. I have added the references to show that he has contributed to hundreds of publications in the field of emergency medicine especially in the UK. Bishopog (talk) 03:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

I will have another reviewer take a look at it for another set of eyes. Eternal Shadow Talk 00:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Rajesh Thakur

I have made some changes so please you can review one more time this article and if you will decline this article this time so I have no more source to reference Contributor008 (talk) 09:41, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Eternal Shadow,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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Deletion discussion about Keith C. Smith

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Request for assistance on AfC submission by Stcksht


Hello,

Thanks for your review of my article for submission. I would like to ask that you take a second look at the article as I strongly believe it meets notability requirements and the citations provided are enough for approval. Even though some articles may include interview elements, the articles also include editorial aspects about the subject written by other notable publications like Refinery29. Also, if you view the Category:Quarterly magazines Quarterly magazines category, many articles about other magazines here have far less substantial references or content, like Molotov Cocktail (magazine), but they were still approved so they could be improved by the wiki community.

Thanks for your time and consideration - I hope to be able to contribute more articles soon.

Stcksht (talk) 23:37, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

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New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

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The Bugle: Issue 201, January 2023

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Nomination of Dave Hughes (politician) for deletion

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Draft:Nol (band)

My respects! I have improved the draft you recently rejected. I have no doubts about the notability of the topic, and English Wiki has similar bands from the region that are much less well-known.

The first rejection of my draft by another reviewer had nothing to do with notabilty, as I understood, but only with the fact that a part of the article was based on the book written, as it turned out, by a band member. It was my mistake, I didn't pay attention to it at the time, but after that I completely rewrote the section based on a Soviet rock encyclopedia (by the way, I'm convinced that the very inclusion in that book already makes the band notable). Other draft references are independent secondary sources. Some are brief mentions, yes, but only a few.

Also, I added a few new independent RS today. If I couldn't convince you, I have no problem finding more. There really are a lot of them. The issue is that the specifics force me to resort mostly to non-English sources. Also, some scholarly articles require registration on academic sites, unfortunately, which could prevent reviewers from accessing them, but I can translate or take screenshots, if necessary.

Thanks in advance. I would appreciate if you would take the time to look at the draft again. KhinMoTi (talk) 22:10, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I think the band is likely notable based off the new sources. I will let another pair of eyes take a look at the submission. Eternal Shadow Talk 04:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Note that the usual indicator for notability is the general notability guideline. Eternal Shadow Talk 04:48, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
Thank you! KhinMoTi (talk) 21:36, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

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