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Speedy deletion nomination of Amru Eleraqi[edit]

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Hello, Emnamizouni. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Selma Elloumi Rekik, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Selma Elloumi Rekik to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

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Hi Arbustum Thanks for the notification. I wanted to add the reference I have but apparently it doesn't go alive! http://www.tunisia-live.net/whoswho/salma-rekik/. By the way this is a translation from the French version Selma Elloumi Rekik. Best Emnamizouni (talk) 17:02, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, thank you for adding a source to your work; when writing the Reference section make sure to add the

- (to see template go to the edit mode). Please also add additional sources as your article relies on only one source. Thank you. Arbustum (talk) 18:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I'll do! Thanks a million :) Emnamizouni (talk) 21:56, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Leila Alaoui has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

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  • Hi there here is my contest to the nomination. Hope this helps to make it clearer. I'm happy to discuss it further. Thanks ! Emnamizouni (talk) 08:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hi User:Reddogsix Can we have the Arabic version translated onto English ? The version has been improved since our discussion. See here (ar) . Thanks ! Emnamizouni (talk) 13:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ways to improve National Day of Freedom of the Internet[edit]

Hi, I'm Yashovardhan Dhanania. Emnamizouni, thanks for creating National Day of Freedom of the Internet!

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The article National Day of Freedom of the Internet has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Noting my POV dispute on the talk page and no response to it even after 6 days, I believe its fair enough to prod this.

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  • Dear Yashovardhan, apologies for the late reply. I just saw your mention. The article is linked to other wikipedia articles and media refrences as well. It is about the commemoration of Freedom of Internet in Tunisia.

Can you please specify what could be done to improve it ? Many thanks Emnamizouni (talk) 12:03, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Really sorry for the late reply. I checked and saw that the article has already been deleted with my expired prod. I felt that the article was mainly not written from a neutral point of view. If I re-collect correctly, it seemed politically biased. If you think I am wrong, you can tell me so and I can contact the admin who deleted it to move it to your Drafts so that you can work on it and get it back. Yashovardhan (talk) 16:00, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Dear Yashovardhan, That's unfortunate! The article recalls two political phases in Tunisia, the cyber activism aka Censorship in Tunisia under Ben Ali and the commemoration of Zouhair Yahyaoui by the former President of the Republic Moncef Marzouki. No political views in it as it's based on facts covered by international and national media. As I already mentioned I tried to link it to other Wikipedia articles as well. It's an important day (for freedoms) to be documented on Wikipedia as a recognition. The French and Arabic versions are still online; in case you'd like to double check. I'd be grateful if you could contact the admin to get it back in my drafts to work on it. Thanks. Emnamizouni (talk) 15:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying. You can request a revival at WP:REFUND. An admin will take it from there. You can even request them to revive it to your drafts so that you could continue working on it. Better yet, once it's revived, go through WP:AFC. It's a great place for requesting uninvolved editors to judge your articles. So sorry for the trouble. Yashovardhan (talk) 17:43, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also if you do go to WP:AFC, be careful of this scam which just came to my notice. Remember, no admin will ask for money to revive an article or a draft. Yashovardhan (talk) 17:49, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hiya :) Thanks for the notification. I updated the references with external sources. Best Emnamizouni (talk) 21:31, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikimedian of the Year[edit]

Congratulations. Great achievement! Given your interest in writing about women, you should become a member of Women in Red.--Ipigott (talk) 16:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much. I'm always and forever a supporter of the Women in Red, will be more than honoured to be a member of the group! Emnamizouni (talk) 16:41, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Emna (no accent!), you can become a member of Women in Red by clicking on "Join Wiki Project" at the top of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red. As for secondary sources about you, if you can provide me with links to informative newspaper articles or similar, even those in French or Arabic, I might be able to create an article about you which will stand up to the EN wiki's concerns about notability. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 14:54, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Ipigott I'm officially there now! Emnamizouni (talk) 11:35, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That's great news, Emna. A warm welcome to Women in Red. I'm glad to hear you intend to write about Tunisian women in English, French and Arabic. I can help you out with English and French but have virtually no competence in Arabic. Here, of course, we concentrate on articles in English but the project Les sans pagEs supports women's biographies in French. You might be inspired to cover some of the women on our Wikidata redlist of Tunisian women. It lists those who have articles in other languages but not yet in English. You might also find it useful to look through our Ten Simple Rules with advice on how to develop women's biographies. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 13:33, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Great news. Thanks! Emna (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Emna! This is Celio, from Wiki Movimento Brasil. We would like to talk to you about the issues raised about our bylaws. How can we arrange a meeting to talk about this? Regards, CCosta (WMB) (talk) 16:33, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Celio, please check you email. Best --Emna (talk) 13:32, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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May Women in Red events[edit]

Women in Red May 2022, Vol 8, Issue 5, Nos 214, 217, 227, 229, 230


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June events from Women in Red[edit]

Women in Red June 2022, Vol 8, Issue 6, Nos 214, 217, 227, 231, 232, 233


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Women in Red in July 2022[edit]

Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235


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Women in Red in August 2022[edit]

Women in Red August 2022, Vol 8, Issue 8, Nos 214, 217, 236, 237, 238, 239


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Women in Red in September 2022[edit]

Women in Red September 2022, Vol 8, Issue 9, Nos 214, 217, 240, 241


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Women in Red October 2022[edit]

Women in Red October 2022, Vol 8, Issue 10, Nos 214, 217, 242, 243, 244


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Women in Red November 2022[edit]

Women in Red November 2022, Vol 8, Issue 11, Nos 214, 217, 245, 246, 247


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Women in Red December 2022[edit]

WiR Women who died in 2022
WiR Women who died in 2022
Women in Red December 2022, Vol 8, Issue 12, Nos 214, 217, 248, 249, 250


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Women in Red January 2023[edit]

Happy New Year from Women in Red | January 2023, Volume 9, Issue 1, Nos 250, 251, 252, 253, 254


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Women in Red in February 2023[edit]

Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259


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Women in Red March 2023[edit]

Women in Red Mar 2023, Vol 9, Iss 3, Nos 251, 252, 258, 259, 260, 261


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  • Mobile phone readers may only see the article "lead" – take some time to make it shine!
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Women in Red April 2023[edit]

Women in Red Apr 2023, Vol 9, Iss 4, Nos 251, 252, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266


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Women in Red May 2023[edit]

Women in Red May 2023, Vol 9, Iss 5, Nos 251, 252, 267, 268, 269, 270


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Women in Red - June 2023[edit]

Women in Red June 2023, Vol 9, Iss 6, Nos 251, 252, 271, 272, 273


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  • Looking for new red links? Keep an eye out for interesting and notable friends, family, or associates of your last article subject, and re-examine group photos for other women who may still need an article.

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Women in Red July 2023[edit]

Women in Red June 2023, Vol 9, Iss 7, Nos 251, 252, 274, 275, 276


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Women in Red 8th Anniversary[edit]

Women in Red 8th Anniversary
In July 2015 around 15.5% of the English Wikipedia's biographies were about women. As of July 2023, 19.61% of the English Wikipedia's biographies are about women. That's a lot of biographies created in the effort to close the gender gap. Happy 8th Anniversary! Join us for some virtual cake and add comments or memories and please keep on editing to close the gap!

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Women in Red August 2023[edit]

Women in Red August 2023, Vol 9, Iss 8, Nos 251, 252, 277, 278, 279, 280


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September 2023 at Women In Red[edit]

Women in Red September 2023, Vol 9, Iss 9, Nos 251, 252, 281, 282, 283


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Women in Red October 2023[edit]

Women in Red October 2023, Vol 9, Iss 10, Nos 251, 252, 284, 285, 286


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Women in Red - November 2023[edit]

Women in Red November 2023, Vol 9, Iss 11, Nos 251, 252, 287, 288, 289


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Women in Red December 2023[edit]

Women in Red December 2023, Vol 9, Iss 12, Nos 251, 252, 290, 291, 292


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Women in Red January 2024[edit]

Women in Red | January 2024, Volume 10, Issue 1, Numbers 291, 293, 294, 295, 296


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Women in Red February 2024[edit]

Women in Red | February 2024, Volume 10, Issue 2, Numbers 293, 294, 297, 298


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  • Please let other wikiprojects know about our February Black women event.

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Women in Red March 2024[edit]

Women in Red | March 2024, Volume 10, Issue 3, Numbers 293, 294, 299, 300, 301


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Women in Red April 2024[edit]

Women in Red | April 2024, Volume 10, Issue 4, Numbers 293, 294, 302, 303, 304


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  • The second round of "One biography a week" begins in April as part of #1day1woman.

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Women in Red May 2024[edit]

Women in Red | May 2024, Volume 10, Issue 5, Numbers 293, 294, 305, 306, 307


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  • Use open-access references wherever possible, but a paywalled reliable source
    is better than none, particularly for biographies of living people.

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