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Hi, for now I'm assuming that you are the Davy O'List, and need to point you at this WP:COI guideline about writing articles about yourself. The material from the External Links section didn't belong there, and I've moved it into the Talk page until I have time to look at it in detail. The link itself is OK, however. Please get in touch if you have any questions. Cheers. --Rodhull andemu 17:24, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I am Davy O'List and I have sent some photographs by email to submissions as there are none of me on here. But can I directly load up to the empty picture space on here?

Good! I was a big Nice fan way back, so it's good to talk to the man! If you've released images of yourself free of copyright, our guys will place them on our Commons site so they can be shared between all Wikipedia projects. But you can upload images yourself; it's easiest to upload here by clicking on the "Upload file" in the Toolbox to the left, then follow the instructions. Free images can then be copied over automatically to Commons. Image copyright can be a bit of a minefield, so I'll keep an eye on it for you. --Rodhull andemu 17:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thank you. You might be one of the guys who will appreciate the new album Second Thoughts - a time jump musically from Thoughts of EmerList Davjak - with a very good keyboard player. It will not be out yet. Tell me, what happened to the piece I posted that you removed? Can I still use it some where so people can read it? I have to put people straight as they are being lead to believe other things. Regards, Davy

I moved it to the Talk page so I can take a look at it- we need to be careful about maintaining neutrality here, and I need to look into it a little more as it may need some copy-editing. I don't get much time to write articles very much these days, but I do have a reasonably free evening. Meanwhile, there's a lot to fill in. I remember "The Attack" by name, so that could do with some expansion. I've rewritten a lot of "The Nice" album articles, so I know much of that background already. I will have something to eat and get on it ASAP. Cheers. --Rodhull andemu 18:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I can send you a file on a recent interview I did for Shindig magazine about Attack and some remarkable facts about The Nice tell me where to send it?

That would be great; <redacted> will get to me. Rodhull andemu 18:47, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just sent you a bundle. After you have read them I would appreciate feedback, as I wish to improve my interview writing technique. Regards, David

Thanks, I can't get to my email just at the moment, but will reply to you in due course; meanwhile, I've started expanding the article to tell the basic story, which is my usual way of working, and will add extra insights when I can find them. I must admit I'd never thought of Jet as "glam-rock", but I suppose with a character like Andy Ellison they were not going to be run of the mill. Watch this space; cheers. Rodhull andemu 21:09, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Nice[edit]

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Dear Sir or Madam,

I complain that the page history on The Nice is factually incorrect. As well as the history being incorrect it contains contentious statements about living people, that is me Davy O'List (http://www.davidolist.talktalk.net) and it has exceptional claims about me which are untrue and damaging. These contentious statements and untrue facts could be used about me by the press, which will cause damage to my career and loss of sales to my new record contract and album releases. I want this article removed.

This page was written by copying segments from the books below but you did not have my permission to do that.

I was in touch with Martyn Hanson complaining his facts were wrong and about the above and he apologised but said the book was out of print and he could not change the site.

This article must be removed immediately.

Yours sincerely,

Davy O'List The Attack The Nice Pink Floyd Roxy Music Bryan Ferry John Cale Second Thoughts

The Nice[edit]

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The paragraphs that are complained of because they are totally factually incorrect are below. I strongly want this article edited and corrected immediately.

The Nice evolved from Gary Farr and the T-Bones, which Emerson and Jackson were both members of before the band dissolved in early 1967. Emerson then briefly played with the VIPs, and his playing style was influenced by the organist Don Shinn. Meanwhile, P. P. Arnold, a performer who reached a higher level of popularity in the UK than her native US,[1] was unhappy with her backing band, The Blue Jays, and wanted a replacement. Her driver suggested Emerson would be able to put together such a group. Emerson agreed, but only on the condition the band could perform on their own as a warm-up act. Since it effectively meant getting two bands for the price of one, manager Andrew Loog Oldham readily agreed. Emerson quickly recruited Jackson, drummer Ian Hague, and finally O'List, the latter by recommendation from journalist Chris Welch.[2]:22–26

When Arnold went back to the US to her family shortly afterwards, Oldham offered the group a contract of their own. Hague was not interested in the "progressive" direction the group wanted to go in, so he was replaced by former Mark Leeman Five and Habits drummer Davison.[3]

Now a band in their own right, The Nice expanded their gear, recruiting roadies Bazz Ward and Lemmy, the latter of whom provided Emerson with a Hitler Youth ceremonial dagger to stick into the keys on his Hammond Organ. They spent the end of 1967 on a package tour with Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd, The Move and Amen Corner. The Floyd's then leader, Syd Barrett, missed several gigs and O'List had to stand in for him. The group's first album was recorded throughout the autumn of 1967, and in October of that year they recorded their first session for John Peel's Top Gear.[2]:46–47 Early work tended toward the psychedelic but more ambitious elements soon came to the fore. The classical and jazz influences manifested themselves both in short quotes from Janáček (Sinfonietta) and in more elaborate renderings of Dave Brubeck's "Blue Rondo a la Turk" which The Nice called simply "Rondo", changing the meter from the original 9/8 to 4/4 in the process.

Perhaps as a foil for the highbrow aspects of their music, the stage performances were bold and violent, with Emerson incorporating feedback and distortion. He manhandled his Hammond L-100 organ, wrestling it and attacking it with daggers (which he used to hold down keys and sustain notes during these escapades). This was inspired by Jimi Hendrix, Billy Ritchie of Clouds, and Don Shinn, an English organist who played alongside Rod Stewart in The Soul Agents, as well as earlier figures such as pianist Jerry Lee Lewis.[4]

During the summer of 1968, O'List's behaviour had become increasingly erratic. Jackson, Davison and roadie Bazz Ward all agree the problems started after his drink was spiked with LSD by David Crosby that February, and he became increasingly late for gigs – on their 4 July appearance at The Marquee, Ward had to telephone O'List to remind him that the gig was on.[2]:71 Things reached a head at a gig in Croydon's Fairfield Hall on 29 September, where O'List surprised everyone by suddenly assaulting Ward in mid performance. Emerson subsequently called a band meeting with Jackson and Davison and stated flatly that O'List should be sacked. They agreed, and immediately after their performance at The Ritz, Bournemouth in October, he was fired by Stratton-Smith with the rest of the band present.[2]:72–73

David,

I have opened a discussion on the Biographies of living persons noticeboard at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive200#The Nice. We take articles that involve living people seriously, and while we can't guarantee removal of information if it has been documented in a reliable source such as a commercially published book, we do try to make sure all points of view are fairly addressed where possible and the article is right. Please take a look. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 13:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]