User talk:David Kernow/Archive 8

Robert Adams, Jr. Article

David,

I need some help with the Robert Adams, Jr. (d. 1906) Article. After editing the Article itself (which is OK) I found the search was redirecting it to the wrong Article (Robert McCormick Adams) I tried to remove the redirect, but found I didn't know how. When you have time would you look at it and see if you can mend it?

Thanks,

Michael David 14:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry not to've responded more quickly, but having just taken a look now, it seems the situation may've changed since your message. Entering "Robert Adams, Jr." leads to Robert Adams, Jr., an empty article; as it's empty, you can simply add

#redirect [[Robert Adams, Jr. (Pennsylvania)]]

to make it a redirect to the article I'm assuming you mean, Robert Adams, Jr. (Pennsylvania). (Incidentally, I'd suggest the "(Pennsylvania)" disambiguation be replaced by "(U.S. congressman)", as disambiguation by occupation/role seems to be the norm).

Hope this is (still) relevant and/or helpful. Meanwhile, my to-do list still reminds me that sorting out articles on people executed by the Nazis needs finishing; it, as with a couple of other tasks, is currently "on vacation".

Best wishes, David Kernow 02:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

David,

(Incidentally, I'd suggest the "(Pennsylvania)" disambiguation be replaced by "(U.S. congressman)", as disambiguation by occupation/role seems to be the norm).

I tried to redirect it to "U.S. congressman" but it came up red. So I used (Pennsylvania). At least now it's redirecting to the right person. Thanks for your help.

Michael David 03:42, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried moving Robert Adams, Jr. (Pennsylvania) to Robert Adams, Jr. (U.S. congressman)...?  That the latter is (on posting this message) a redlink suggests this is possible, after which you could redirect Robert Adams, Jr. to it and update the Robert Adams disambiguation page. Regards, David 08:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thomas William Hogarth

Hi, your expand request - is it shaping up (sans photo) to what you would expecct? SatuSuro 01:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the trouble to message me – I must admit I don't recall asking, but that doesn't matter, as I agree and see it's improving steadily. Two suggestions come to mind:

1. Remove the "Thomas William Hogarth" and "Biography" subheadings; I'd say people arriving at the article would expect it be (mostly) a biography of the person whose name is the article title. If you agree, I'd also then convert the first bullet into the article's introductory sentence or sentences;
2. Combine/expand some of the sentences currently under the "Biography" heading into two or three paragraphs or more than one sentence each, i.e. make it more prose-like.

Thanks for your work!  Best wishes, David Kernow 02:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your positive response SatuSuro 02:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak

Hello George,

Just to let you know I've simplified {{Wikibreak}} along the lines suggested somewhere above. Hope you approve. Best wishes, David Kernow 02:06, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I think your improvements are really great :) . Cheers! GeorgeMoney ^(talk) 02:11, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!  I'm glad you approve. I've also just left brief instructions for using the template without all the extras. I just hope I haven't broken (m)anyone's current use of it... Yours, David 02:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you think we should implement our changes on all the other wikibreak templates? GeorgeMoney ^(talk) 04:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Are the other wikibreak templates now needed...?  David 22:04, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

PS Have added comment within {{wikibreak}} code to explain presence of parameters not mentioned on the template's page.

Maybe we should just TfD the other ones now. Or we can integrate a {{#switch in the main one so we can have all of them in one template. GeorgeMoney ^(talk) 23:35, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I've just converted {{Long wikibreak}}, {{Attempting wikibreak}} and {{Exams}} into calls to {{Wikibreak}}, but #switch may be better; I'm not knowledgeable about ParserFunctions. I guess these templates could be TfDed if/when their use is replaced by calls to {{wikibreak}}, perhaps something a bot could fulfil...?  Hopefully no-one currently using them would be offended...

Regards, David 11:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

ParserFunctions are a bit hard. I spent all night working on parser functions to make that wikibreak notice on my page automatically change to the real wikibreak when my wikibreak starts, then pop up 14 days before my next wikibreak. Now, what we want to do is

{{ #if {{{type|}}} | {{ #switch: {{type}} | exams = what the exams template would do | attemting = what the attempting template would do | wikibreak <!-- this is a fallthrough value, so what happens to the next value, would happen here too --> | #default = what the normal one would do }} | what the normal one would do }}

GeorgeMoney ^(talk) 17:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and made the changes, so for example {{wikibreak|type=exams|cats=}} would come out like:

David Kernow is taking a short wikibreak to get ready for exams and will be back on Wikipedia once the exams are over.

All of the same parameters for the normal wikibreak template apply to the types too.

Also, see my proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Wikiholiday#Merge. GeorgeMoney ^(talk) 23:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Seems fine to me. So long as the unified template remains simple to use for those folk not interested in tweaking it but carries the functionality for those who are, I'd say it's an improvement. How best to handle the legacy of those folk currently using the old template or its variants is something I feel others more experienced than I should handle; as before, commandeering a bot to update these instances would seem the norm. Thanks for your work!  David 14:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

PS Am ccing this to Wikipedia talk:Wikiholiday#Merge.

Television series by company

They have been relisted...let's start anew, shall we?
&#151;Lady Aleena talk/contribs 18:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the alert; have just passed by (what I assume is) the relisted nomination and voted accordingly. Perhaps CfD is just too time-consuming...

Best wishes, David Kernow 16:49, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Bummed Out!

I just lost about six hours of stacked edits in a momentary outage due to thunder boomers. At least I had an iterim save on one long talk message. Had a diversion seeing what Flammerade was up to (M.I.A. 30 daze), and so had a beautiful 'brief' composed to Krill on his talk on the interwiki templates (post on F's page triggered it) and was just about to save it and blam, all gone. I have no idea of how many other things I lost too... I just know I've been busy as hell on four projects since b4 last weekend, and some of it was in notepad, some on the two browsers in stacked edits. Arrrrrgggghhh! (I generally have something all but done, and get down a link while checking... hence, the circumstance! I think I'll knock off and watch the all-star game tonight. Just thought I'd say hi. // FrankB 21:21, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping in touch. Wish I could do more than just commiserate re your lost work... you probably know the "if you think you don't need to save yet, it's time to save" mantra better than I can recall, spilt milk and crying though it may still be. Maybe there's a program that detects if you're editing in an application without an autosave function and then autosaves for you.

I recently concluded an educational email correspondence with a member of staff from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) which, in short, has confirmed my suspicion that sorting out some kind of regular structure for subnational divisions across the world (from states through districts to communes, etc.) is... hard. All because I wanted to sort out how to structure the various categories of locator maps on the Commons. There's a guy here on Wikipedia, Tobias Conradi, who seems well-versed in it all, so I hope with his help a breakthrough might be made. Otherwise maybe it's best simply to group all "Category:Locator maps for Xs" – where X is any of who knows how many kinds of subnational division – in the one undivided "Category:Locator maps" on the Commons (in the Commons?).

So I've been away from the Commons for a while too, though am disappointed to hear that Flammerande seems to've gone. Perhaps he was able to combat the onset of wiki-addiction, or maybe he burned-out sorting through so many maps...

Suddenly feel thirsty. Best wishes for now, David Kernow 03:17, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Psychiatry

I finally got your message, but it was unclear. Can you explain it some more?

Hello FETuriousness. Coming from outside the US, I was wondering what part/s of the final paragraph you removed from this section you feel are biased; was it the last sentence? ("Furthermore, children are allowed to be placed into an institution at the will of their parents or legal guardians [1].") I suspect the writer's formulation "placed ... at the will of their parents" is too simplistic. The remainder of the paragraph seems reasonable, however – assuming it is correct. If not, rather than simply deleting it, perhaps it may be corrected?

Thanks, David Kernow 07:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

FET 06:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Since I left my original enquiry above, the paragraph in question appears to've been edited, so perhaps that is why my enquiry seems unclear...?  Regards, David Kernow 14:35, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Freeway/motorway/whatever category

Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 16:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC) --SPUI (T - C) 19:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation to rejoin the discussion, but this looks controversial and I know I'm uninformed about it. Best wishes, David Kernow 01:51, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

country subdivisions

Hi Tobias,

Just to let you know I'm working on a table of Subnational divisions by country for the sake of an overview if nothing else. Hope all well, David Kernow 04:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

...Hi Dave, thx for informing me. Good list, IMO mv to article space, so others can contribute. cu around Tobias Conradi (Talk) 11:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Will do, once I've been through it again a couple of times to tidy it up, maybe a add a paragraph or two about the most common terms and fill in any more of the missing data I can find. Am also intending to move /NUTS levels into article space, again after tidying up etc. Yours, David 01:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ism

"Kurieetoism"! I love it, thanks David! :) Kurieeto 18:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Chuckle - just one letter away from "Kuriee-taoism"!  Best wishes, David Kernow 16:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Categories for deletion

Yesterday I accidentally erased a whole bunch of content via this edit. Today I restored the content I erased. Since you were the person affected by this, please make sure that your votes are correct. My apologies for all the trouble. Balcer 13:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

No problem; thanks for your message. I reported here that something seemed to've happened and my attempt to reinstate the missing material. (User:Bkonrad added that something similar had happened on July 21.) I'm just glad there wasn't anything more mysterious occurring. Best wishes, David Kernow 17:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: Stray votes..?

Hi Instantnood,

Are your votes here meant for elsewhere...?  Regards, David Kernow 17:09, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies; I didn't spot that User:Jtdirl = "FearÉIREANN". I have, however, removed your first vote; hope that's okay. Yours, David 17:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The vote was actually cast to category:current national leaders who are relatives of a former leader. I made some small changes shortly after I pressed the submit button, and I pressed submit button again after making the small changes. Perhaps it resulted in an edit conflict and that's why my vote became two lines. — Instantnood 20:16, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem, so long as what's been left is what you intended. Best wishes, David 02:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks so much for removing the extra vote. — Instantnood 21:02, 12 August 2006 (UTC)