User talk:Cuddy Wifter

Hi, I notice no-one's thought to give you the offical welcome yet!

Welcome!

Hello, Cuddy Wifter, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Laverton, Victoria

The picture you have removed from "Laverton, Victoria" page, featuring a vehicle prevalent in the Laverton area holds a marked similarity to the "Toorak Tractor" image featured on the "Toorak, Victoria" page which you have contributed to in the past. I cannot see why a "Toorak Tractor" image should be allowed to remain while a picture of a vehicle which is iconic of the Laverton area must be removed. Furthermore, I question your reasoning as to why you have cited your edit of this page as a removal of vandalism.

Laverton 02:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Bruthen, Victoria

I am sorry about that. I was unfamiliar with that policy and the rules that go with it. That'll teach me to not read things. My bad. tv316 05:08, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Horse racing distances

I have noticed that you have inserted a comma into the race distance in a couple of horse racing articles, which I have reverted. The general convention in Australian racing media and publications is not to insert the comma when giving the distance of a race. The Manuel of Style states: Very large numbers may be divided up by commas every three places. Regards - Cuddy Wifter 05:23, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a racing publication. In my opinion it should have internal consistency, but I'm not interested in racing so I probably won't visit the page again. ReeseM 23:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Is Prosper Trebeck 'from Victoria'?

Hi Cuddy. I've started a discussion on this here...

I just wasn't certain if this category applies or if we should apply other categories for NSW and West Bengal.

Thought you might have an opinion.

Factoid Killer 20:47, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I came across the article in a google search for uncategorised "Victoria, Australia" articles. On the basis of the information in the article I thought Category:People from Victoria was one appropriate category. Can you suggest other categories which are more appropriate? Does Wikipedia have any guidelines on "People from or of place" which would apply in this case? - Cuddy Wifter 03:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Template:MelbSuburbBox2/Water

That looks right, thanks. Just to note, I think I've found something in the template system new that might make the output HTML more semantically correct, so I'm going to try that now. --Evan C (Talk) 09:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Tulloch

I wrote that piece on R & S some time ago, so i guess i am the copyright holder (dark horse 09:38, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

Australian Expatriate cats

Hello Cuddy Wifter. Regarding your recent Aus expat cat placements, I have reverted some of them because "expatriate" is generally taken to mean "residing in a foreign country". I believe it is accurate to say that when a person returns to live in their home country they are no longer considered an expatriate. I also do not believe people who have died are considered expatriates any longer. Cheers. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 08:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The definition above was straight from the dictionary, but this is Wikipedia's: "An expatriate (in abbreviated form expat) is someone temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of their upbringing and/or legal residence." I honestly do not see how people who have returned home or have died fit within that. Most notable Australians have lived overseas at one point. And so I think it is very confusing and misleading to label every Australian who has at one time in their life lived overseas as an expat. Further, I don't see the relevance of the British cats. Two mistakes dont make a right. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:04, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I make the distinction based on what the word ACTUALLY means and what most people understand it to mean. I make a further distinction based on the fact that Australians are famous for spending time living overseas and to include all of them would render the category meaningless, bogged down and entirely unruly. I do not make a distinction between former and current footballers because a. there are a hell of a lot less of them and b. it is a career.

I merely came here to pay you the courtesy of informing you why I had reverted some of your edits. I have no interest in arguing with you. You can do whatever you want but I will remove people who are incorrectly categorised. Thankyou. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 05:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

May 25 2006: Greece vs Australia friendly

Do you suppose Wikipedians would buy the tickets and go?

It would be a great social activity for us, and we would try to get press accreditation as well.

--Bronwyn Gannan 07:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC).

Racing

I saw your note on my user page. Thanks. I guess this is about "Category: Racehoreses bred in the United States". This is a reasonably important category. Someone suggested it be merged with "Category: American racehorses". I guess this OK too. I will keep an eye on it to see that they don't come up with an unworkable solution. Wallie 08:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

i have commented as well. I think that it would be good to go much further than this and have some discussion on horseracing in general. Even look at starting a portal. I think all the information could be much better presented. dark horse 05:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

further to that i think that it would be a good idea to support a wikiproject on thoroughbred horseracing as suggested by Galopin. considering the size and limited contributors possibly seperate projects for Europe, US and AUS. These could then be merged once more complete. There is Wikipedia:WikiProject_Thoroughbred_racing which has had next to nothing done to it and seems USA focused. You may have seen me working through the G1 winners in australia (slowly) my idea is to complete the winners of all blacktype races and then complete profiles for all hall of fame horses (firstly) in the style of the Tulloch article. Added to this i want to develop a standard for summaries, race records etc. i quite like the idea of info boxes like they have for football (soccer) players. A summary including info on basic breeding, colour, year foaled, owner, trainer, race record, prizemoney, major wins, awards, sire stats and a photo would look good. Let me know what you think (dark horse 04:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC))

got your message about the CAPS - an oversight by myself. will work towards fixing these. am working on a few recruits with great australian racing knowledge, hopefully to get this whole project firing. (dark horse 05:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC))

Melbourne Meetup

Hi Just looking over the Melbourne Meetup pages etc, and I was just wondering, if u get many Under 18's?

Thanks! --Deon555|talk 09:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Awesome thanks for that ;) --Deon555|talk 00:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

You don't seem to be aware of it but Ted Wilkes has been banned from editing Wikipedia. He was banned in mid March for 1 year by the Arbitration Committee. FearÉIREANN\^{(caint) 00:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)}

Thoroughbred racing

G'day. You are right, if Wikipedia is to have articles on the subject of horseracing around the world, then there needs to be some consistency and co-ordination. I have no special interest, I started the Harry Wragg article under "Harry". My comment about "race-ist" was supposed to be facetiuos. Guy 09:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Organizing Thoroughbred racing into a Wikipedia project is a great idea. Regretfully, for now I am tied up with other duties but ASAP will get back to Wikipedia and would then be glad to help out in any way possible. Handicapper

I will try to help out with the Thoroughbred racing project but can't personally claim to be a real expert. My dad trains racehorses for a living (I have resisted writing an article about him; I don't think he is particularly well known) but he has a wealth of knowledge and if I could only persuade him to help out I'm sure he would be useful. --Wikipediatastic 15:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Xcellent

The guy who put this up for deletion is a complete... can't think of the word, yes ... balloon. By the way I used to work in South Yarra at the ANZ data centre. Is it still there? Wallie 20:17, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

The deletion nom was withdrawn, and the Afd closed off by User:Kimchi.sg. Cheers. Moriori 23:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thoroughbred horse Infobox template

Galopin has generously volunteered to help the Wikipedia:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing create an Infobox and has done a great job. Take a look at his talk page (User talk:Galopin#Template tests) for the two choices for the bottom box and those horses where I set up their box today using sample 1. Handicapper 18:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Worker's Barnstar
		For your work in organising and improving Melbourne and Australian related articles. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 04:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Stonnington

A climate is a pattern of weather distinct to a particular region. A suburban municipality doesn't have a climate distinct from the rest of the city of which it is a part. The table I deleted gave figures for Melbourne as a whole, not for Stonnington. Adam 07:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Nevertheless they are not figures for Stonnington, and of course no such figures exist. It is absurd to discuss the "climate" of a small area of suburbia as though it was a climatic region distinct from the city as a whole. Adam 07:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Makybe Diva

It appears the same editor is using multiple ip addresses to edit the article and present their point of view. If it persists I'll enable semi-protection. I've fired them a warning on inserting POV edits for now. -- Longhair\^talk 02:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I've sent the anonymous user another warning, with mention of a block if edits of this type continue to occur. I'm also watchlisting the article. I'm currently busy in real life at the moment, but feel free to continue posting to my talk page if these edits continue. I'm still checking into Wikipedia from time to time and am happy to assist where I can as time permits. -- Longhair\^talk 01:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm still watching the article, and just gave the ip a warning. -- Longhair\^talk 04:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup in planning

Hello, you've indicated that you're interested in future Meetups in Melbourne on this list, so I'm giving you this message to remind you that Melbounre meetup number four is currently in planning. If you haven't already, please go to Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne to suggest possible dates, times and locations. Thanks --Michael Billington (talk • contribs) 02:44, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup

Greetings, person who is listed as being interested in future meetups in Melbourne. The fourth meetup will be held on 18 December, at Lower House in Fed Square (in the Alfred Deaking building, Flinders Street end near the Atrium: map), starting from 7pm. We don't currently have a separate location for discussion beforehand, but there'll be plenty of time to talk wiki over dinner. --bainer (talk) 14:50, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Elvstroem

Cuddy, why did you delete what I said about Haradasun? It was TOTALLY objective as the colt HAS only won a listed race and IS one of the favourites for the Cox Plate.--The judge and jury 10:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Fifth Melbourne meetup

The fifth meetup of Melbourne Wikipedians is being planned as a breakfast meeting in the city with Jimbo Wales (at a venue to be arranged) on Friday, 27 April 2007.

Jimbo has proposed breakfast as the one real window of opportunity during his tightly scheduled stay in Melbourne. Tbe precise time has to be sorted out with Jimbo, but the arrangements for the equivalent Adelaide meetup a few days before may give a good idea.

Feel free to edit the relevant page in any way that might be helpful. I feel like a bit of an interloper, not having attended previous meetups. If there's anything you can do to help, I'll be grateful. Please think about whether you'll be able to make it, assuming the arrangements are similar to those Adelaide is adopting (i.e. a block of time with people being fairly free to arrive when it suits them). Some indication on the page of your possible participation would be really helpful. Metamagician3000 06:10, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Chipping Norton Stakes

Hi, I've noticed that you're one of WP's foremost contributors to Australian thoroughbred racing, so I thought I might ask you directly (since I'm not sure if a question on the article's talk page would have gained any attention). The article on the Chipping Norton Stakes makes no mention of this, but if I remember correctly the race was run at Caulfield at least once in the 1990s. Could you tell me why and how long that went? Malc82 00:13, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. Only in case you’re interested, I think I know what the problem was. What I remembered was a February 1997 (British) Racing Post (that I don’t have anymore), where the Chipping Norton result must have been printed under the header “Caulfield”, along with the Blue Diamond result from the same day. But according to various sources I just found on the net, the 1997 Chipping were indeed run at WF, the Racing Post obviously just printed it wrong. The unusual Sydney to Melbourne shift was exactly what got me wondering. Thanks again. Malc82 12:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Queensland meetups

I just wondered if you knew if any Queensland meetups have ever happened ? From looking at the meetups page, it seems one was planned in Brisbane but may have not occurred.Boylo 23:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

RE: Melbourne meetup 6

Thanks for notification of the meetup and I have included my status (under Apologies) on the page.
— Peter McGinley 04:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Now see Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 7 for further planning. Metamagician3000 04:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Strapper ?

I've come across the term "strapper" in at least one Wikipedia Australian horse article and at other places such as Living Legends bio for Paris Lane which says "Melissa Jackson, his strapper, remembers ...." Can you tell me what a "strapper" is? Thanx Handicapper 19:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Strapper, ;-). Malc82 20:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Sortable Tables

Thanks for converting the Race Results tables for Poseidon to sortable tables. Is there a template for these anywhere? I am just working on the race results tables for my next project (Amounis), and it makes sense for them to be sortable from the start. Thanks MagicFlute1983 06:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Quarter horse racehorses

Hey, thanks for catching some of those Quarter horses as racehorses, but not ALL of them are racehorses. Some are halter or western pleasure or cutting horses, so I'm going to go through and remove the category on the ones that aren't racehorses. Thanks! Ealdgyth | Talk 02:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

On the categories, I can defintely see the point and need to prune down Category:Famous horses. I agree, Category:Quarterhorse racehorses doesn't fit all the QH's, but I'm thinking of doing pages on the significant Paint Horses too, so maybe we should stick with something like Category:Cutting horses Category:Rodeo horses Category:Show horses? That way famous Arabian show horses could go in the show horse category also, etc. etc. The only problem I see is we still have a few that won't fit into those categories, maybe need a Category:Broodmares and Category:Stallions to cover those who made their name in the breeding shed instead of outside it. Of course that still leaves a few like Traveller, who was General Robert E. Lee's mount in the American Civil War, or Buchephalus. I'll admit I'm still learning how to work Wikipedia, so I haven't felt able to tackle the lack of suitable categories for the QH articles I'm working on. And for that matter, shouldn't it be Category:Quarter horse racehorses? No clue how to change that! And wow, hitting preview shows me that there IS a category for show horses... (slaps forehead)! Ealdgyth | Talk 22:50, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Your list

Hi,

Just run down your racing list, you have mapped out a lot of work for yourself!

You might like to add Pat Hyland, as both a successful jockey and a trainer. Also Jim Moloney, who trained Vain.

Anyway good luck with it!

--Michael Johnson 06:03, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your tireless work in cleaning up the category "Famous horses" and resolving problems for WikiProject Thoroughbred racing. Malc82 23:41, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD

Please see also the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 AD glossary, nominated for deletion by the same person as part of their anti-glossary spree. And also the Village Pump discussion which spawned all of this, at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Glossaries, which needs further community input. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 09:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Anamato

Hi! I noticed your interest in horse racing. Concerning the above: Are there references for this article? Is the horse notable? Any more improvements to the article would be appreciated. --Stormbay 21:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Video - Precisionist

I just found this Video at YouTube. If you haven't seen it, take a look. It is the funniest finishing line incident I have ever seen. Handicapper 16:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne-related categories

Hi Cuddy Wifter. With the article above, wouldn't this be better in project space rather than in article space. I assume it was created for collaboration purposes rather than as an article. I was going to move it myself but I thought I should check with you first. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ ^talk 22:53, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

That is exactly what I mean. It is a great idea but at the moment without having the WikiProject prefix at the start of the page name it could be seen as an article rather than a collaboration tool. I will move it shortly. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ ^talk 23:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Welcome

Hi Cuddy, I'm trying to contact you (and am hopeless at it) but maybe this will work. I'm a 76 year old retired racing journalist, hence my unquenchable interest in that subject. Thanks for your welcome message. I need help setting up stuff and perhaps you could help me? My email address is [email protected]

Ron. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs)

User:Isoronical

You have a keen interest in horse racing articles. I was wondering if you could give this new user a hand with some copyediting. He's producing article's on notable racehorses which may need some cleanup but he appears to have become confused when I added a cleanup template to one of his recent creations (see recent message above). -- Longhair\^talk 23:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

An awesome contributor, just one used to writing for public consumption (ex journalist) rather than an encyclopedia. I'm sure there's plenty of good value that lies ahead... I'll help out where I can but I've gotta admit the world of horse racing shall remain a mystery to me. Interested, yes, but I'm lacking of any knowledge whatsoever in this field. -- Longhair\^talk 07:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Longhair, I just came across this page and your kind comments. I'm afraid my style of writing stretches back to the early 1950s and includes both typewritten and over-the-telephone stories from the racecourses. I am inclined to be a bit colourful (colorful for USA!) and will have to watch this! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs) 05:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Isoronical 20:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isoronical (talk • contribs)

Melbourne Meetup

	Melbourne Meetup Next: Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne/45 - Friday 8 December, 2023 (watch) Last: 18 February 2023
See also: Australian events listed at Wikimedia.org.au (or on Facebook)

Hello! The Melburnians are having another meet-up! Please consult this page if you are interested to participate in the discussion! Thanks! Phgao 03:23, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Flemington Race course

I have undid you taking out "possible grand prix track" because i had said it was possible not certain. Look at the reference! Thankyou Pattav2 02:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I read the reference. It is newspaper speculation. Quote from the news article: A spokesman for the Victorian Racing Club slammed the idea as fanciful, "not even worth considering". Speculation has no place in an encyclopedia article, even when it appears in a newspaper. Cuddy Wifter 03:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Greetings Mr Cuddy Wifter. It was very nice to meet you today. I uploaded some images and added a few to the meetup page, here. All the best, Sarah 14:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Per your userpage, I look forward to seeing your autobiography hit the shelves at a bookstore near me. :) Sarah 15:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

VRC St Leger Stakes

I added this to the list of races on the Flemington Racecourse page. However, I have no idea what the third column is all about and thought you might be able to fill in the blank and perhaps add a footnote with the various definitions. Thanx. Handicapper (talk) 19:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

For fixing that link in the Wikiproject talk page...you don't know how many times I wrote it correctly only to go back and not put (horse) on the rewrite. --Smashville^BONK! 21:30, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Tulloch (horse)

The article has been moved now. I did it the incorrect way of copying-and-pasting and making the old page a redirect, but I'll get an admin to fix it tomorrow. As for the link fixes you requested, I don't see anything (in What links here) other than a redirect, which is fine to be left as-is. Am I missing something? - Dudesleeper / Talk 04:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Gotcha now, regarding the links to the disambiguation page. Wikipedia Cleaner should take care of that. I'll put it on the agenda for tomorrow. - Dudesleeper / Talk 05:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Done. I didn't, however, correct the links on talk pages since it seemed a bit of a waste of time. - Dudesleeper / Talk 13:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Thoroughbred links

Thank you for the links you posted on the Thoroughbred talk page - they were extremely useful...just what I needed for expanding the short sections! The article has been a team effort over the past several weeks, and your links were one of the last pieces in bringing everything together before we begin the push for GA. Thanks again! Dana boomer (talk) 01:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

WMA Meeting

Hi Cuddy Wifter. I'm not sure if you're on the Wikimedia Australia mailing list or not so I thought I'd let you know that we're planning a WMA meetup in April at the Computerbank. The details are here on Meta. Cheers, Sarah 00:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Next Melb meetup = Wikimedia Australia incorporation meeting

	Melbourne Meetup Next: Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne/45 - Friday 8 December, 2023 (watch) Last: 18 February 2023
See also: Australian events listed at Wikimedia.org.au (or on Facebook)

Hope you can make it :) cheers --pfctdayelise (talk) 09:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Please don't get me wrong. I know you live in Australia, but some of these articles are exaggerrated. I will do the same with any other nation. I have had plenty of fights on the Battle of Britain article, as that is too British. Unfortunately it is easy to get a false perspective, if you listen to the media of one country. You must admit that Australia lays claim to some articles where it has tenuous links. Wallie (talk) 11:00, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Looking at your moniker i suspect we might have a bit in common (I think I am balder and younger but not by much) I hope the idea of the port p bay cat was ok SatuSuro 10:47, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Wow just checked your additions - thanks for that by that it looks like you agree! SatuSuro 10:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Impressed - thanks for that - hope we meet again sometime in something similar SatuSuro 13:03, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

My talk page

I cannot understand whatever possessed you to reinstate stuff on my talk page. These are simply messages. I received them and deleted them. I cannot imagine even why you would be interested. If you delete this or anything else I send, you certainly don't need my permission. It is your talk page. You can do whatever you want to it. the same applies to me. Thanks. Wallie (talk) 06:35, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

It says this on the Talkpage guidelines. It is quite specific....

Some examples of appropriately editing others' comments:

(others)

On your own user talk page, you may remove others' comments, although archiving is generally preferred.

(note: These are only guidelines.)

_________________________

As far as censoring is concerned, I would treat it more like a cleanup, like deleting old message from your email inbox. Strikethough and removing comments is different.

Also, as you say, some people are critical of me. These comments will more than likely be removed. I do not engage in personal attacks of others, so I don't expect the same back. Comments about the articles are preferred. Thanks.

Wallie (talk) 07:58, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

By the way, you can certainly remove this or anything else I put on your talk page. That is your right. Wallie (talk) 08:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Phar Lap

Could you please check out Phar Lap's talk page. I have no idea why Ernest has a problem with the lead, maybe you would understand and explain? Or at least give your opinion. Thanks - Josette (talk) 00:57, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Golf course architects from Melbourne

I have nominated Category:Golf course architects from Melbourne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for merging into Category:People from Melbourne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Bencherlite^Talk 09:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Breeding suffix

I changed Makybe Diva to the format that has been in use since this project was started. And, after hundreds of horses have had articles created based on that presentation, it is unacceptable for anyone to come along and just change one or two to some new formula they suddenly like. If such change is made, then someone else will justifiably change some other part of the article and we wind up with a mess. There is a reason for uniformity. And, every article has the birth country referenced at least twice: on the introductory birth line if alive, in the racebox and the Category. Handicapper (talk) Handicapper (talk) 14:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Can someone just see if this is a spillover from that AUS vs NZ spat that is hitting several of the TB articles? There are a couple of editors (Not CG) who are sort of stirring this up and that needs to be cooled off first, IMHO (wanting to stay out of it, but starting to be annoyed by the whole thing...sigh). Montanabw^(talk) 00:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

List of Melbourne Cup winners

I see you added links to a number of the winners names in this edit. This is a major deviation of the established format and should only be done by Wikipedia:Consensus. Unless persuaded otherwise, I would object to it for several reasons: I think they are misplaced, such a link should be in the article on that year's race and/or the horse article, not on the list of winners. Such links are, and can only be due to the lack of sufficient reference info available from years past, limited to a handful of recent winners on a list of dozens/hundreds. They are god-awful unsightly and degrade the quality presentations thousands of Wikipedia contributors have worked hard to achieve throughout this site. Thanx. Handicapper (talk) 12:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Greetings Mr Wifter. Just to let you know that I have given your account rollback. You should notice a rollback button appear and if you click it, the edit will be automatically reverted. It's pretty simple and you can read more about it at WP:ROLLBACK but the main rule is that it's only to be used on clear and obvious vandalism. Hope you find it useful on your wiki-travels! Best wishes, Sarah 13:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Hartlepool

Hi, For some reason you keep deleting www.thisishartlepool.co.uk from the external links section.

Not only is this a totally relevant link, a lot of the information from this page is taken from the website. The site has been online for 11 years - far longer than Wikipedia!

As the webmaster of the above site, and regular contributor to this page I feel the least you could do is leave this site listed. It is supported by advertising but is not an 'advertising site'.

Thanks.

90.208.48.243 (talk) 21:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Wikipedia has many policies and guidelines which you should familiarise yourself with. WP:LINKSPAM - "adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam." WP:EL#ADV - advertising and conflicts of interest - "you should avoid linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent." I hope this explains why links to your web sites get deleted. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

re: Kelly Preston

Hi. I was just wondering - are you sure Preston is a high importance (priority is used by WP:ACTOR) article for your project? [1] She's not considered a high priority actor at all, so I'm wondering about that rating. No problems either way, just curious. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

You certainly put a lot more logic into your assessment than most do. I wouldn't change your rating, I was just wondering about it. I have put our WP:ACTOR project request in to get popular page listings, it should be interesting to see what comes up. The actor project bases its assessments on priority a bit differently, I think, but no one method is right or wrong. I just wondered. And I'm a little surprised Preston gets that much traffic in comparison to your other articles. Cheers! Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Phar Lap

G'day what you mean by reference spam? Aaroncrick (talk) 22:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with reverting the edit on B-class articles but many articles barely have any refs. It would have been better to add an in-line ref but we do use External Links don't we? Also I don't see why you'd think I was promoting the book. You were a long way off the mark there. Like the majority of cricket article use Cricinfo as a source and that doesn't mean the editor was 'spamming' or 'promoting' the website. Thankyou. Aaroncrick (talk) 06:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Australian Baseball

I noticed you updated the talk page assessment of Australian Baseball League - probably fair enough too. I was wondering if you'd like to have a newsletter delivered to your talk page about the goings-on of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Australian baseball task force. I took the liberty of checking out your user page, so I understand if baseball's not top of your interest or priority lists, and also make this offer with no expectation - hope, yes; expectation, no - of participation or contributions to either the task force itself or the articles that fall under its view. At the moment, the next issue will probably be put out in September or November. Whatever you decide, feel free to reply either here or on my own talk page. Thanks  Afaber012  (talk)  07:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

reassessing importance of articles

Hi there. I noticed you reassigned importance levels at some articles recently. Your edit summary indicates the reason was that they should be assigned "low" because they aren't in the 5000 most popular articles. Level of hits / visits / popularity isn't really a relevant criterion.

Here is the assessment advice from Wikiproject Biography:
Priority must be regarded as a relative term. If priority values are applied within this project, these only reflect the perceived importance to this project and to the work groups the biography falls under. An article judged to be "Top-Class" in one context may be only "Mid-Class" in another project. The criteria used for rating article priority are not meant to be an absolute or canonical view of how significant the topic is. Rather, they attempt to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic (and thus the immediate need to have a suitably well-written article on it).

Article importance grading scheme

Label	Criteria	Examples
Top	High probability that non-Historians would look this up. Limited to the top 200 biographies. Must have had a large impact outside of their main discipline, across several generations, and in the majority of the world. For instance, Einstein, brilliant physicist, but his theories have affected people outside of physics and in many other countries besides his nation of origin and several generations. His ideas have changed the way people think. No member should give this rating to any biography without first getting Project approval from the other members.	Albert Einstein
High	Must have had a large impact in their main discipline, across a couple of generations. Had some impact outside their country of origin.	Patrick Henry
Mid	Important in their discipline.	John Seigenthaler, Sr.
Low	Subject is notable in their main discipline.	Morena Baccarin

Applying this approach to Emily Kngwarreye, we can see she has multiple books about her work alone, and that she is "one of the most prominent and successful artists in the history of the Aboriginal art movement" (which in my view is an understatement, but you can't know that, you can only work with what the article gives you), I would suggest that a mid rating would be best. A case could be made for a high rating, in that she has had her work exhibited outside Australia in a major solo exhibition, but that would probably be a stretch. Hope this helps. Regards, hamiltonstone (talk) 02:17, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Can I support Hamiltonstone's comments above. Popularity is not a criterion used for establishing importance. The articles that you are re-assessing have already been assessed and thus I'm not sure the work you are doing is particularly valuable compared to what yet needs to be done to the many Australian articles still needing improving. Cheers Gillyweed (talk) 03:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with the others above and have gone and reverted all of these new importance gradings, please don't rate importance using that criteria.--VirtualSteve ^{need admin support?} 08:19, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your recent changes!

Thanks for your recent edits!! - It´s a proof that people have the will to build a better world 189.217.171.135 (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kalgoorlie Kid

Hello Cuddy Wifter, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Kalgoorlie Kid - a page you tagged - because: A7: "winning the 2007 Cairns Cup" seems to be an assertion of importance. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 04:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

"Trivia" (Notable people)

There was no clear consensus to revert my edits. Devonport and Burnie possibly but not for Launceston. You said: "If you do not have a good reason for deletion I suggest you do not impose your view on the work of other editors." Well, I significantly expanded them, so not exactly imposing my view on "the work of other editors." As other editors pointed out there at least needs to be a source per WP:V/WP:OR, which there is not. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:29, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Diane Anderson

Why has the material about her been removed? She has been featured on the front page of the Melbourne Age in a story by Paul Austin about an ALP conference. John Brumby at an ALP Conference once told her the ALP would be better off if she left it. Another former Premier said she should go back to America and stay there. She hasn't lived in Australia for some years now. There is a reference to her expulsion from the Melbourne Unitarian Church in the Sunday Age by Lawrence Money. There is, admitedly, some concern about her address but it is on the electoral roll in Glen Iris. Do you know something about her or do you think she's unimportant? Crikey has had some good articles about her over the years. She is currently in the United States and is party to a law suit. There is plenty about it on the net but blp policy probably means that is best avoided. I won't put it back on under Glen Iris. It may be better if she's included in some other article on WP, and I haven't the energy to write one at the moment. I'd just be interested to know your reason for deletion. Bagdadjenny (talk) 23:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

The section Notable citizens is an area to link with biographies of notable people with a connection to a suburb or town. Wikipedia has guidelines as to notability. I could not find a WP article on Diane Anderson and so deleted your edit. I do not have an opinion as to her importance. If you think she is notable, and you do start a biography please re-insert the link. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 03:15, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. A lot could be written about her but it needs quality references to meet wp standards. The Age would be a starting point. I'll wait until someone writes an article about her in some academic journal and use that as a starting point, as I just haven't got the time to do original research, which in any case is against wp guidelines. Thank you again. Bagdadjenny (talk) 07:19, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Edmund Blacket

I notice that you have just rated one of Australia's foremost 19th century architects, whose influence extended well into the 20th century as being of "low" importance. (a university, three cathedrals, about 100 churches, houses, mansions, banks, bridges etc.) Do you want to rethink that, on the grounds that he was one of the greatest and most prolific Gothic revival architects in the world? Amandajm (talk) 08:29, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The table of Australia articles by quality and importance shows that of some 49,000 Australia related articles 90% are rated as Low importance, 8% as Mid importance, 1% as High importance and 0.2% as Top importance. A note under Importance_scale states: importance.....attempts to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic. My assessment of the Edmund Blacket article (an average 300 - 500 page views per month), was that it did not fall into the top 10% of Australian articles and I therefore rated it as Low importance. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 22:22, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The number of times that an article is looked up is not a good guage to the real importance of an article. Among the things that are rated higher than Australia's most significant architect of the Victorian period are almost every rock band Australia has ever produced, several game shows, department stores, individual railway stations, individual battles in WWI (as against major campaigns), specific seasons of the Ashes (as against the Ashes) etc etc etc. When I looked up the articles regarded as of "top" importance, what do I find in pride of place? AC/DC, Mate! Wot else! Does this really make Acka Dacka essential to an encyclopedia of Australia? Does it really make a pop band more significant than Edmund Barton or Joan Sutherland or Henry Lawson or Australian Constitutional Law?

Can I suggest that the way that these articles are ordered appears to reflect the ignorance and insularity for which Australians are renowned? Let's have a bit of a reality check here!

Amandajm (talk) 05:15, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Links from Local Government Articles

Hi, With regard to the links I have been adding to some of the Articles about Australian LGAs. I thought that the Local Government & Municipal Knowledge Base pages might have had enough addition material (Information about Software Systems used by the Councils for example) to warrant the link. I guess the amount of additional information varies from page to page, but I be interested to get your opinion about some of the more mature pages - the Bundaberg Regional Council page for example - to see if you think a link to that page might be appropriate.

http://www.lgam.info/bundaberg-regional-council

I believe there are a few things that are included in the LGAM Knowledge Base pages that are of definite interest to people in the Local Government arena, that are not appropriate to add to the Wikipedia articles.

Darkenfair (talk) 03:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

The Bundaberg link is no different to all the other links you have added. It seems to me that you are adding multiple links to Wikipedia articles for the purpose of promoting a website. This is considered to be External link spamming and is not allowed. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 23:09, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Cast your vote on editing guideline at WikiProject Thoroughbred racing

There is currently an issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thoroughbred racing that as a member you might wish to read and vote on. Handicapper (talk) 19:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Link for info about Polymelus

You have removed my link on the page about Polymelus (horse). I received a message from somer wiki person saying I had to add references so that is why the link to the Google book was added. As this is a valid authoritative source and available online for free, what is the point in removing it? I have added it back with a specific page reference so the informatuion is e4asy to find KerryB (talk) 08:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC).

Melbourne gangland killings

Totally agree with your upgrade of this article's importance to Melbourne as 'Top'. We need a good editor to give it a rigorous upgrade. - Richard Cavell (talk) 08:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thoroughbred assessment

Good morning! Over here in England it's now 23:19 and almost bedtime. I see you've just started on assessing the horses for importance; noticing that you've reassessed some as |class=start, I thought I'd explain why I originally marked these as |class=stub - quite simply, there is a stub template at the bottom of the article page. If the article is Start-class, perhaps the stub templates should go?

Separate question. There are five British Classic Races; Verkhovensky assessed Talk:Epsom Derby as |importance=top; using that as precedent, I then assessed all four of the others to the same importance. You've since reassessed two (Talk:2,000 Guineas Stakes, Talk:1,000 Guineas Stakes) as |importance=high. Should the other three (Epsom Derby, Talk:Epsom Oaks and Talk:St. Leger Stakes) also be reduced to High? Personally, I think that all five should be of the same importance. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Almost midnight and you are still doing Wiki- work. This is dedication beyond the norm...I usually knock off by 6pm. I will try to remember to delete the stub template when I rate an article as Start class in future. Thanks for the note. So far as the top races in each country are concerned (including British Classic Races), I do not consider them as core thoroughbred racing topics which would be rated are Top importance, but as historically significant, which is High importance. Thanks for your help in the assessments. Regards, Cuddy Wifter (talk) 06:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Morning, Cuddy. As you may have noticed, I've now completed my pass through Category:Racehorse stubs, and have now turned to Category:United States horse racing biography stubs. Some of these people specialise in training Thoroughbreds for racing, so they're easy to decide that {{WikiProject Thoroughbred racing}} is suitable; but some are much more difficult, and when in doubt, I may have put {{WikiProject Equine}} on instead. To my mind, they should have one or the other of these two WikiProjects; so if you think I used the wrong one, then by all means exchange. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:00, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Seaton Carew war memorial

Thank you for an excellent article on Seaton Carew which I could never have prepared myself. I am very disappointed however to note your removal of material added earlier today, 9 August 2010, by myself. That I concede is to a large extent your prerogrative, given that you and not myself will always, I imagine, be identified as the person principally responsible for the content of this particular article on this particular town, and its excellence in design. Nonetheless, I draw your attention first of all to the fact that it is indeed perhaps astonishing that you did not choose yourself in the first instance to make any reference whatsoever to this particular war memorial on Green Square, and secondly to the fact that whether it is relevant or not to Seaton Carew is a debatable question, for the simple reason that those who live in the town, and those who visit it, should I suggest be aware of the difficulties that arise in connection with a war memorial which I suggest is in its own fashion entirely unique as being based upon the supreme war medal in the history of Great Britain, and incidentally and therefore unsurprisingly relating both to war memorials elsewhere and to the tomb of the British Unknown Warrior, as seems to be the case on the basis of the other websites to which reference is made.

I believe it is in the interests of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia that facts in this connection, which you do not deny as such, that is as facts, should be known, and I therefore restore my own contribution. If you remove it again, I shall not proceed any further in this matter within Wikipedia, but I must inform you that the text of the present comment on your own action will be added by myself, together with the text you have removed, on the 'Discussions' page of this particular article.

Best wishes and regards, and I hope that, in what I myself believe is the public interest viewed in historical terms as distinct from the positions at present taken up by the Secretary of State in central government and certain local authorities, we can arrive at some sort of agreement, possibly by discussion on this page, before you choose to undo my own undoing, and consequently to remove this text again.

Peter Judge 9 August 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.17.51.153 (talk) 07:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Darby Munro

Hello, no article yet. Best I could do would be a stub but might be up your alley. Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 12:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)). PS when did July fall in August??

Hartlepool

Hello, by the looks of things, you do not live in Hartlepool despite perhaps having come from the area originaly. Being 61 years old would mean that you were probably born when Hartlepool was still part of County Durham. I however, like all people under 45 was born in County Cleveland. From then on this meant Durham was no longer the county of Hartlepool, and Stockton. Although the Cleveland county was disbanded in the late 90s, the term is still used, and spoken. In addition the new name for the area is the Tees Valley. If you could to refer to Hartlepool in the ceremonial county of Durham, what on earth is it supposed to mean? Ceremonial county? What is that? Under this assumption Redcar is part also of the ceremonial county of North Yorkshire, yet is not part of Yorkshire and Humberside but is still part of the North East. Can you understand the confusion this is causing? To resolve this confusion and to continue the Tees idenity, Tees Valley was introduced, a new region formed from the old county Cleveland with the addition of Darlington. As a result Hartlepool in now in the TEES VALLEY and by saving county Durham you are basically confusing generations of people even more with this old term. In Hartlepool, I send a letter with a TS postcode. I receive a letter with a TEESSIDE Date stamp, I receive a bank statement with a HARTLEPOOL, CLEVELAND address, I listen to TFM (Teesside radio), I look for things on the visit TEES VALLEY website, I look for a jobs on Teesvalleyjobs.co.uk, I rent a house with the TEES VALLEY Housing associatiom, I find bus and train information on the Connect TEES VALLEY transport website, and births, deaths, and marriages are at the TEES VALLEY indexes in Middlesbrough. So I hope you understand what the issue is about, either write Tees Valley or don't write anything at all.

http://www.connectteesvalley.com/bus.asp http://www.myteesvalleyjobs.co.uk/ http://www.middlesbrough-indexes.co.uk/ http://www.teesvalley.org/services_care_supaccom_yp_hp.php http://www.visitteesvalley.co.uk/site/explore-tees-valley/hartlepool http://www.hartlepool.gov.uk/info/100011/transport_and_streets/1462/national_driver_offender_retraining_scheme_n-dors/14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clemens12345 (talk • contribs) 19:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Externally linking to bus schedules/tables via template

I posted on the article talk pages; please reply there or at the template talk page rather than reverting me again. There is no justification for linking externally via a template to the bus schedules/tables within an article about a suburb. When the bus agency changes their schedules/tables, they change the link, and these then appear as external broken links in wikipedia articles.

The entire template is nonsense; it consists of 3-4 375 label-switches, to post external links to bus schedules/tables on a web site. There is no sense in wikipedia that every article on every place on the planet with bus transportation should include direct external links to the bus schedules/tables. Let's see, the article on London should contain a list of all buses, trains, and planes, with their times of operations, destinations, and external links to individual bus schedules? It's not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Maybe a tour guide. --Kleopatra (talk) 17:25, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Reassessment -

Hello Cuddy Wifter :) I have noticed that you assessed Westfield Southland shopping centre of it's importance on the 9th of August 2008. I have requested on the Wiki Projects Melbourne that the shopping centre be reassessed from low importance to Mid, but I haven't been replied back to. I know I should be more patient, but I just thought that since you were the person who assessed it the first time, would it be possible the article be reassessed to a Mid Importance? The article has changed dramatically since August 2008, And this centre is important because:

• It ranks in the top 10 largest shopping centres in Australia (by stores and floor area)
• Southland has the Southern Hemisphers largest and longest multi-level retail bridge
• A Premium Railway Station has been approved for the centre
• The centre serves up to 16.5 million people annually
• Its a Principal Activity Centre (Melbourne 2030 Metropolitan Strategy)

It's Victorian sister shopping centres Westfield Doncaster and Westfield Fountain Gate both have recieved Mid Importance.

Please get back to me asap! :) If there is anything you would like to discuss, please discuss on my talk page :) Thankyou! :) MelbourneStar1 (talk) 10:11, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Melbourne buses

Hello, for the moment don't waste time reverting these. Next week (after the holiday season) I will open a discussion so we can resolve. Have my own opinion but needs talking about as it has wasted a lot of time. Regards (Crusoe8181 (talk) 08:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)).

just read your talk page above; same applies though- time to discuss (Crusoe8181 (talk) 08:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)).

Bus Routes

I didn't think you would be online, because you still have'nt replied to my message on my talk page reguarding Westfield Southland. But anyway, You more than anyone else should know that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a directory. The Wikipedia is not a directory section of the 'Wikipedia is not' article outlines exactly what Wikipedia is not, maybe you should take a read, before reverting my edit. Oh and just letting you know most articles that had those bus routes, those bus routes have been taken off. And, Metlink bus routes table is also being currently considered for deletion. :) Thankyou MelbourneStar1 (talk) 03:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kindergarton Stakes

The article Kindergarton Stakes has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Article duplicates Kindergarten Stakes which is the correct spelling, and contains all information in this article

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

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Agreed this is a duplicate. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 02:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Wendy Lewis

> Please stop making multiple references to your wife's books. You have a clear conflict of interest and, > from your edit history, your only reason for contributing to Wikipedia appears to be in promoting her books. Please stop

I will stop.

I don't consider that any of my additions were unfair, however I can see that they may be viewed as conflicted. Forgive me - it's just that I just made a wonderful discovery about how marvelous wikipedia is, and I probably let it go to my head. Enough about Wendy Lewis: it's probably time for me to do other wikipedia pages instead, for which there is no conflict.

Ben morphett (talk) 00:54, 19 March 2011 (UTC) Ben Morphett

Inconsistency of Policy Enactment: Conflict of Interest, Spam, and Restrcited Sites.

Hi Cuddy,

Thanks for the links to the various policies. I have taken them into consideration.

Previously my community site links were classified it as spam or a "restricted membership" site, neither of which they are, as they are open and free. Meanwhile, many links to purely commercial sites remain, such as Sun Theatre (Yarraville), Luna Park, St Kilda Marina, Linden Art Gallery (St Kilda), and other community sites such as WilliamstownOnline (on the Williamstown, Vic page). The policy regarding External Links does not seem to be enacted with any consistency.

If the Wikipedia community has some method of reaching a consensus on this point I will find it easier to understand and therefore be able abide by it.

Regards,

Nic Mason

Yarraville-com (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

The guidelines at WP:SPAM ARE the Wikipedia consensus and you have to abide by them:

Quote1. Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam

Quote2. How not to be a spammer:.Review your intentions. Wikipedia is not a space for personal promotion or the promotion of products, services, web sites

This is what you attempted to do. You have made no other contribution to Wikipedia apart from linking to your websites. In addition there is nothing on your websites which adds to the existing articles.

Quote3. Many times users can be confused by the removal of spam links because other links that could be construed as spam have been added to the article and not yet removed. The inclusion of a spam link should not be construed as an endorsement of the spam link, nor should it be taken as a reason or excuse to include another.

There are millions of articles on Wikipedia. Not every article is on someone's watchlist, therefore some spamlinks will avoid detection.

I hope this helps to explain why your websites were deleted. Regards. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 00:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Of interest

You may have an interest in this RfC Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Equine#RFC:_what_units_should_be_used_for_horse_and_pony_heights.3F. Montanabw^(talk) 18:49, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi Cuddy, If you have the power to do so, could you please remove the vandal. (edited 2-7-11) Cheers, Nic Yarraville-com (talk) 21:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Nic, I can't do any more than you have done by deleting the offensive remark. All I can suggest is that you report it at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Regards, Cuddy Wifter (talk) 00:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Cuddy, Thank you for the reply and suggestion. I suppose this is the nature of a wiki. Cheers, Nic

Melbourne meetup this Saturday

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Hi there! You are cordially invited to a meetup at North Melbourne this Saturday (23 July). Details and an attendee list are at Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne 16 Hope to see you there! JVbot (talk) 05:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC) (this automated message was delivered to all users at Wikipedia:Meetup/Melbourne/Participants)

Please take another look

Dear Cuddy. You assessed New Approach on 12th August. Since then, I've re-written the whole thing and made a lot of what I hope are improvements. It's pretty much a new article. Could you please take another look? I have, unfortunately, got a lot of time on my hands at the moment and would like to contribute as much as possible, but only if I'm going about it in the right way. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 23:07, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Categories

I have left a question for you at Category talk:World record holders in Thoroughbred racing and at Category talk:Former world record holders in Thoroughbred racing. Thank you. Hialeah Harry (talk) 00:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Help

Hey Cuddy. I need to create a sweep sheet for the Melb cup (and have it ready for use Sunday morning). I guess the final field is named after the McKinnon and Lexus are completed. But where does one go to find the official list of runners? Moriori (talk) 21:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC) Belay that. Have located a site which will have the starting 24 late Saturday afternoon. Cheers. Moriori (talk) 22:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

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West Hartlepool - Revision of article references on 30 October 2011

Thank you for confirming that an extremely useful website so far as maps are concerned as indicated in the subject line is still available. I can howeve assure you that when I tried to access it a few hours before your replacement or restitution of it as shown above (which you did yesterday 30 October) this website did not seem, for whatever reason, to be on line, and I can assure you that I tried a few hours earlier to reach it several times without any success whatsoever.

This (its subsequent availability) is a sort of experience I have never had before over a period of many years attempts to reach websites and if you are prepared to believe I am telling you the truth it will be helpful if you provide me with some sort of explanation, assuming that such is also available, since what I did as a result of this situation was indeed arguably a very serious error; however, the maps as quoted by myself as an alternative (Alan Godfrey Maps), if they are duly obtained by those interested in the true character of the extraordinary history and architecture of this extraordinary Victorian new town as bombarded by the Germans in the East Coast Raid in 1914 together with historic Hartlepool, are I can assure you Sir considerably more informative as to the history of this Victorian new town, West Hartlepool, together with its relationship to the architecture and mapping of the 19th Century, and I suggest that it should now again be included within this reference, even if only briefly.

Unless you respond with some reason why it should not be, I shall therefore take this step I hope with your approval, given the extremely significant national issues that are quite clearly at the present time involved in relation to war memorials of the First World War (you will perhaps be aware of the admittedly 'stub' class West Hartlepool War Memorial article?).

The ultimate alternative is perhaps the removal of war memorials altogether as completely irrelevant other than as lists of names, which no longer mean anything? You may also wish to see the latest edition to the Talk Page, relating the matter to Buckingham Palace.

Peter Judge 31 October 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.134.187 (talk) 10:12, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Melbourne Meetup

Hi there. Just inviting you to the Melbourne meetup this Sunday at 11am, to celebrate our 11th anniversary. Details on that page. Hope to see you there! SteveBot (talk) 01:54, 11 January 2012 (UTC) (on behalf of Steven Zhang)

Shit, no-one invited me but I will be there and looking to meeting another decrepit Wikipedian (we should have a category). A trivia question for you- where was the Governor of Victoria on 1 January 1909? Expect you to be able to tell me on Sunday, there are a few clues about. Cheers Crusoe8181 (talk) 08:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

February Melbourne Meetup

Hi All. Just letting you know that we have another meetup planned for Melbourne, on Sunday, 26th February at 11am. More details can be found at the meetup page. Pizza will be provided. Look forward to seeing all of you there :-) SteveBot (talk) 22:56, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup

Hey all, just a reminder that there's a meetup tomorrow at 11am in North Melbourne. There are more details at the meetup page. Hope to see you tomorrow! SteveBot (talk) 04:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Kongers

Thanks for adding the banner to all those Hong Kong racing articles. The creator of the articles obviously meant well, but hadn't checked to see how we actually do these things. Not sure if all of them would pass a strict notability check, but we need to encourage new editors. All the best from an editor still residing in the North of England.  Tigerboy1966  11:56, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Project rename question

Hi Cuddy, I have responded to your question here. — Ganeshk (talk) 12:52, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Recent Edits

Hi, I was wondering if you could clarify of why you reverted my edit to Steeplechase. Thanks! Monterey Bay (talk) 23:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Varenne

Thanks for your efforts on this page. We have some problematic IP editors here, but I think that you & I can handle them atm. If things persist we can move it on to the higher powers.  Tigerboy1966  20:17, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank you so much for fixing Thoroughbred Racehorse redirect! You're awesome! Selene Scott (talk) 02:21, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

WP Horse Racing in the Signpost

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(quote)was the year of given below things.(unquote)

Hello, just reverted a few dozen of our friend's edits. Was about to give him a serve for being such an obnoxious waste of time but then I realised he, among many other things, describes himself as a professional polyglot. So how dare you revert such an elegant phrase! Cheers (Crusoe8181 (talk) 12:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)).

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The article history (Link) shows that Faizanalivarya did indeed create the Stephen Sauvestre article on 10 December 2012. My guess is that the traffic statistics could include page visits before the article was actually created (for example, via red link), but I think this is a question you should direct to User:Henrik (as per this link). However, the statistics page is a tool that exists outside of Wikipedia, while article history is an integral part of the project and we could safely consider it to be the official record. Thus I believe the onus is on you to explain how Faizanalivarya did not create the article. Same goes for Preston, Tasmania. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:35, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Please review WP:REMOVED regarding the user talk page comment you restored. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:37, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Dear Gyrofrog,

My honest apologies for removing, all conversation has been restored on my Talk Page, Thanks a lot for supporting that's highly appreciated with all due respect of Mr. Wifter, I would like to inform him, that I did create those articles. He might be confusing with some other articles or may be some deleted articles, kindly keep in touch until we resolve this issue. Thanks again for your kind concern.-- Faizan Munawar Varya ^chat _{contributions} 07:07, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

I think it's entirely feasible that there were page visits prior to the article's creation. I don't know about several hundred, but again, I think that's a question for User:Henrik. I am more inclined to trust the article history. As for the other issues, I think competency may be an issue (as opposed to outright malice, subterfuge etc.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:24, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, Thanks for your help with the racebooks. Need some advice when I upload racebooks in future should I list category Racebooks only or include Horse racing in Australia as well Many Thanks LESHAIGH (talk) 09:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

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Just to let you know that our pal has returned under a new name and has been up to his old tricks at Varenne.  Tigerboy1966  22:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Donald Nicolson

any reason for the deletion of this jockey in the Epsom Handicap? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qbdils (talk • contribs) 23:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

The information you added to the Epsom Handicap page was copied from www.racingandsports.com.au, which is why I deleted it.

The Wikipedia page WP:COPYPASTE states: (1)You may not copy and paste text from other sources into Wikipedia. Doing so is a copyright violation and may constitute plagiarism. (2)Wikipedia articles must be written in the author's own words. I hope this explains my action. Regards. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, you had some probs a while ago, but caught mid-race this time creating articles by copy/paste to a different name, then redirecting the original to his new article (which appears on his user page within nanoseconds). Bludger is the term we use, not sure what the Pakistani translation is. Cheers Crusoe8181 (talk) 11:55, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I added a map of the racecourse and a paragraph explaining some of it features because it wasn't appearing at the entrance. You remove all, both the image and the paragraph, saying there is a spam link.

I don't think there is any Spam, and I added value to the text.

Can you please explain me your reasons?

Thanks!! :) Sebastiansta (talk) 08:23, 27 October 2015 (UTC)Sebastiansta

Hi,

Just check your explanation, and the picture is the same size and in the same place than the race court panoramic picture.

Also, the link is there, because as you said, the picture is taken from that William Hill page (with permission)

Instead of arguing about interests (that is 100% an assumption of yours) please give me facts if the picture and the text are not good quality or not belongs to the Melbourne Cup entrance.

Please, before erasing again, talk with me, is more civilized than erasing over and over.

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Sebastiansta, please STOP adding that material, it has been explained to you over and over why your edits are unacceptable. Montanabw^(talk) 16:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Beauford

Hi Cuddy, Have completed a page at my first attempt on the Newcastle champion Beauford but I can not get by head around this referencing imputation to have authorised. I generally upload horse photos & racebooks onto these pages if your interested in completing the process or know someone please forward on as would be appreciated when pasted into the sandbox looks great. The reference information links for article are all complete. Cuddy tried uploading the 'Word' file But not allowed maybe you can advise. Thanks Les

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