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Hello, Courcelles. You have new messages at PrincessofLlyr's talk page.
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Also, out of curiosity, are you interested in reviewing me? I have one review already, but it was terribly complimentary and didn't give me anything to improve on. I would love a second opinion if you have time. Thanks again, PrincessofLlyr (talk) 05:00, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

For when I have time, where is this list of notable subjects that need articles? Especially if you could find something that fits in my interests...particularly books, authors, characters, or Christian organizations. And thanks for the review - it is very helpful. Any more comments are welcome. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 03:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Mainly in my head! Hmm... Christian organisations? Plenty of old churches on the NRHP that need articles. (Those, also, practically write themselves). Same with a good deal of 17th and 18th century Bishops. Books and authors.... hmm, let me think about that overnight. Courcelles (talk) 03:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that speedy tag - I was in the process of doing that myself. I was reverting the edit and Huggle informed me that it was the article's creator and would I like to tag with speedy instead. I clicked yes and then there's this totally inapplicable tag! Anyway, thanks! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 19:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem- in the numerous ways Huggle botches G7's this wasn't bad; at least it didn't let you revert and warn in that case! Courcelles (talk) 19:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Blocked?

Courcelles (talk) 23:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

I've actually been unblocked, but I'm getting:

"Secure login You are currently unable to edit pages on Wikipedia due to an autoblock affecting your IP address.

This is because someone using this internet address or shared proxy server was blocked. The ability of all users on this IP address to edit pages has been automatically suspended to prevent abuse by the blocked party. Innocent users are sometimes caught in an autoblock. It may be the case that you have done nothing wrong.

A user of this IP address was blocked by Dlohcierekim for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Courcelles". The reason given for Courcelles's block is: "Vandalism".

This block has been set to expire: 23:40, 22 March 2010.

Note that you have not been blocked from editing directly. Most likely your computer is on a shared network with other people. "

That message. The block log shows it was clearly the wrong person blocked. Courcelles (talk) 23:42, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

The normal links show no autoblock, or any other active block - have a look at Template:Autoblock - suggests by passing the cache.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Ron, but I think there was one, and User:PeterSymonds removed it without leaving a comment as I can edit again now. Thanks, both of you. Courcelles (talk) 23:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Beaten to the post again, just like being on huggle... :-)  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 23:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

You seem to beat me as much as anyone! I wonder how many people are trying to revert some of the more blatant vandalism, anyway. I'd reckon it's quite a few of us. Courcelles (talk) 00:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I botched the template above. Sorry! PeterSymonds (talk) 00:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

O.M.G.

I am so sorry for this fiasco. I wanted to be ready to block Special:Contributions/60.234.180.10 because I thought he'd just keep going. Somehow i clicked on you instead of him. Once again, I'm sorry for the inconvenience and aggravation. Dlohcierekim 01:08, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

No worries. I've seen admins block themselves, so this seems an easy enough mistake to make! Courcelles (talk) 02:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Dusti^SPEAK!! 05:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Rugby performance

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Um... Okay. I could have helped, maybe, but just putting the warning I gave you over here doesn't give me anything to go on. Courcelles (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Autoblock

Brad-- the autoblock tool says there are none, so hopefully it's gone. Dlohcierekim 14:11, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, PeterSymonds got rid of the autoblock. I'd have thought it was removed with an unblock, but guess it's not. Is that a bug? Courcelles (talk) 18:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

GA review offer for Donner Party

Hi, Brad. You mentioned on the DYK page you are interested in the GA review for this article. It is nominated right now. I see you have reviewed 6 articles from your user page. I'd like to give you the opportunity to review this article, but I will be honest in saying I have doubts about your low number of reviews. However, as a caveat, I don't have a terrifically high number of GA reviews myself for whatever reason. Please employ all reasonable scrutiny for this article if you decide to take it on. We would like to take it to FAC. If you don't think you can or want to do it, please let me know. Thank you. I appreciate your time. --Moni3 (talk) 18:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Macrophage

User:Dlohcierekim has given you a Macrophage! Macrophages in the body protect against infection and gobble up debris. Macrophages on Wikipedia protect against vandals and gobble up vandalism. This Macrophage is given in recognition of your work in reversion of vandalism and warning of vandals. Thank you for your efforts to keep Wikipedia healthy. Happy editing! -- Dlohcierekim 23:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks- my talk page has gotten hit a few times today! I was actually planning to sit down and work on an article this afternoon, but the vandalism hasn't let up for hours. I guess I'll get to it later on tonight. Courcelles (talk) 23:52, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure this has been brought up before, but have you considered having this page semi-protected and creating a separate page for IP addresses and unconfirmed users? I've seen it done before, but can't think of any examples of the top of my head, sorry! Of course, some people would probably just vandalize there...but I just thought I'd suggest it. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 02:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I've seen truly viscous talkpage vandalism, and then I just get called names. Most of which are already warned, so they show up at the top of Huggle and it gets taken care of ASAP. All-in-all, letting an IP, non-autoconfirmed user orange bar me when needed is more useful than the occasional spurt of vandalism. Courcelles (talk) 02:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

No problem! Actually, I thought that might be what you would say, but like I said, I just thought I would mention it. It has been a shock for me to see how much people vandalise here. They should have something better to do with their time. Also, thanks again for the review, I've been trying to work on more content and I'm seriously contemplating writing an article in the near future. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 02:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Beautiful Dying Day Edit

I added links to the iTunes Music Store for Beautiful Dying Day's two albums as additional confirmation that it was a group of professional musicians. Why was the edit reverted? Cityondown93 (talk) 23:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Because it's spam- they are trying to sell music and nothing else, something we generally do not allow. Being listed on Apple's store isn't a show of notability, either. It fails number 3 and 14 on Wikipedia:EL#Links normally to be avoided guideline. Courcelles (talk) 23:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

hey you took my doc holliday edit down i was telling the truth well about going to school with him.................................................. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pollyhereexon (talk • contribs) 18:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Unlikely. He died in 1887. Courcelles (talk) 18:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Comment

Is 4chan a reliable source?

No. See WP:RS- especally for controversial material, we'd need something from the New York Times or a publication of similar standing, not an internet forum. (In fact, outside of the 4chan article, I have a hard time imagining ever citing that website. Courcelles (talk) 06:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

hi what do i do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.64.176.126 (talk) 20:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

You really need to stop vandalising, and using personal attacks. Why not try editing constructively? Courcelles (talk) 20:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

St. Michael's Cathedral

Hi, can you go back to the FA discussion at St. Michael's Cathedral, Qingdao and strikethrough any of your comments you feel have been resolved to your satisfaction? Thanks for all your feedback. It was very helpful and made for a stronger article. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 20:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

• Hi again. I've removed the Baidu Baike citation, FYI. ɳorɑfʈ ^Talk! 16:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. Eagles 24/7 (C) 19:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Anytime! Courcelles (talk) 19:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks from me too. :) -Fnlayson (talk) 23:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Ray Nagin

Could you explain to me why you considered this edit to be vandalism? Thanks. 65.80.246.160 (talk) 20:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Using the term '"lame duck" in the first line of someone's biography is a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP, as has been explained copiously on your talk page. Courcelles (talk) 01:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

That is another editor's opinion, an opinion which I, as a student of American politics and government, firmly reject. That editor has falsely claimed that the term is not acceptable on Wikipedia, even though I showed him literally dozens of articles (including four featured articles) that use the term, and he has failed to explain how it violates WP:NPOV. If something is deemed to violate NPOV, it must somehow contain some type of bias. Is it bias to describe someone as "President-elect"? No, because after the election, that's the generally accepted term for the person who is waiting to be inaugurated. Is it bias to describe someone as a "lame-duck President". No, because that the generally accepted term for the person who is waiting for his final term in office to end. It is not a negative term, and it is used routinely by reporters for the national media without any negative intentions.

And I don't recall anyone saying that it violated WP:BLP.

Having said that, you still haven't answered my question. Why did you call my edit vandalism? Do you actually believe that when someone inserts something that is POV, that it is automatically vandalism? I think that vandalism is the wanton destruction of our work on Wikipedia, and that a person's intentions are not insignificant. Someone could easily insert a comment that was well-intended, but which another editor felt violated WP:NPOV, but they could discuss it or even remove it without resorting to accusations of vandalism. Do you really think that it was justified to call me a vandal for inserting an accurate term (even User:Hajatvrc never denied that the term was accurate) into the article? 65.80.246.160 (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Since it just hit me an IP can't have a watchlist, I replied over on your talk page. Courcelles (talk) 20:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

That was very thoughtful of you, BJB. FYI, what I do actually is to look at my IP's contributions, and if I see that my most recent contribution is not listed as (top), I go and check it out. Not as good as a watchlist, but reasonably effective.

Anyway, thanks for scratching out the warning. I still respectfully disagree with your reasoning. What is important is not what other definitions exist for the term (there are probably hundreds if not thousands of terms used within this encyclopedia that are perfectly inoffensive and appropriate in one context but quite the opposite if used in another context), but rather, what is the meaning of the term within the context it is used. I challenge you to find one political columnist or one reporter of national news in the United States who thinks it is in any way rude or offensive to apply this term to any individual. You won't find one, because it has no such connotation. It is simply shorthand, and is easier to say "President Bush is a lame duck" than to say "President Bush-who-is-still-President-but-will-soon-be-out-of-office-so-he-has-nothing-to-lose-in-making-controversial-decisions-yet-is-less-able-to-get-the-cooperation-of-others-who-know-that-he-won't-be-in-a-position-of-significant-influence-much-longer." That's all it is, a neutral, yet highly descriptive term. It does not speak to his personal competence or his performance in the job or anything positive or negative. 65.80.246.160 (talk) 20:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Examples

If you would be so kind, please look at the following lines:

• from Scottish Terrier:It is often said that all present day Scotties stem from a single bitch, Splinter II, and two sires.
• from Stabyhoun: The average number of puppies in a litter is 7, and the bitches are not allowed to have more than 5 litters in their lifetime.

I'm sure that we can both agree that using the term "bitch" in at least some contexts would be offensive, unacceptable, and non-encyclopedic. And I'm sure that you would also agree that there are some folks out there who are unaware of this use of the term "bitch" and thus might be shocked by its usage. Fortunately, we use links on such terms, either to other Wikipedia articles, Wiktionary, or something non-Wikimedia, so that the reader who does not know the term becomes educated and gets over their surprise. I could do the same thing with many other terms, but the point is clear, just because a term is potentially taken as offensive by someone who is poorly informed does not mean we cannot or should not use it. The writers on these canine articles could just as well have written "female dog", but there was a perfectly good (and neutral) term to use as shorthand. 65.80.246.160 (talk) 21:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but that context of the word "bitch" is universal. "Lame duck" is an Americanism. Anyway, I redacted the warning, and not to put too fine a point on it, I'm dropping this matter. Terms mean different things in the States and the Commonwealth, and I read the Commonwealth meaning in your edit. Courcelles (talk) 21:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for First Presbyterian Church (Columbia, South Carolina)

On March 27, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article First Presbyterian Church (Columbia, South Carolina), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-- Cirt (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

• Good job on this. You from South Carolina? Chris (talk) 17:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I am. It was a nice change to write about something that is 15 miles from my front door, so that I actually had a chance to go and take pictures! Courcelles (talk) 19:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

I'm not a native, though. I've lived here for several years now, even developed a fancy for boiled peanuts! Will likely never get used to the heat; it's 17 degrees out and I'm a little too warm. Courcelles (talk) 20:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Argghhh! What self-respecting northern transplant develops a taste for boiled peanuts! Disgusting!

Being both playful, yet serious about the peanuts,

65.80.246.160 (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, the things I've learned to like in the Southern U.S. Boiled peanuts, American football, getting glares that say "You are from Mars" when my brain turns off and I ask for the "loo", pecan pie. (Though I'll never get the tendency to use cole slaw on everything. Pork and cabbage, if I wanted that I'd have moved to Munich!) (Some people would say fried chicken, but I associate that more with my time in China than the U.S.) I guess I'm one of those that's comfortable everywhere and home nowhere. Courcelles (talk) 22:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/USNS Fall River

This appears to be news. avs5221 (talk) 06:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

At this point, it does, and would likely be better as a redirect to the class article, Joint High Speed Vessel. However, any ship that carries the USS or USNS prefix is notable, and articles can exist on yet-to-be-built vessels (see USS North Dakota (SSN-784) which contains little more information than the Fall River article would if approved. Courcelles (talk) 06:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Even worse, see SSN-790- we know more about the Fall River than we do her- at least Fall River has a name. If the submitter doesn't come back, I'll make a redirect to the class article and let it eventually become a real article, alright? Courcelles (talk) 06:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. I don't challenge the notability at all, but you're right referencing WP:CRYSTAL until more is known about the ship. avs5221 (talk) 06:35, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Still able to get monthly edit counts?

Just curious, how were you able to get monthly edit counts for this using X!'s edit counter if monthly counts are now disabled? Gary King (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah, asked that too quickly. I see now that he has User:Skater/EditCounterOptIn.js. Did you ask him to create it? Seems like a new minor annoyance over at RfA now. Gary King (talk) 19:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

No, I didn't ask, it was already there when the RFA was transcluded. I'm not sure how it will be handled when an RFA candidate hasn't created the opt-in page. (I can image an optional question asking htem to create it?) Courcelles (talk) 19:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe wikichecker could be used? Aiken ♫ 19:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, but it would have to be tweaked to use text instead of images. Gary King (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

That could work. Of course, the whole reason not to pull edits by month was to protect anonymity; pulling edits by hour seems to be a flagrant violation. (I don't see the problem with SoxRed93's tools. Pulling edits by hour like this, I have issues with.) Courcelles (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

It does little to protect anonymity: any person can look at someone's contributions, copy them into a spreadsheet and create graphs out of them. Of course, it takes longer but it's easily do-able. If I'm honest though, we should not be so fussy with edit count and rather look at the character of the candidate, and their knowledge, rather than when and how often they edit. Aiken ♫ 19:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit count is meaningless, except when lack of it causes snow ;) (Of course, edit count is a poor analogue for experience, but the quickest. Someone who wants to close AfD's, but has only participated in five just isn't ready to gauge consensus there, no matter how good their AfD contribs have been. WP knowledge might be acquired by reading, but can only be demonstrated by editing.) Courcelles (talk) 19:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Obviously, a low count can be used, but this does not require a counter. Or if it does, there is a very basic one still available. If you look at the person's contributions, and see there are only 5 AFDs, you know they are probably not yet ready. But when they have several thousand edits, it does become meaningless, to me at least. Aiken ♫ 19:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Can I trouble you for a favour?

If you've got a little time on your hands, I wonder if you could run your eye over Lily Cole (the article, not the woman!) and give it a copyedit. Having built it up from not much more than a stub to a GA, I'd quite like to take it to FAC one day, but I'm being told in the PR (unsurprisingly) that the prose isn't up to 1a standards. I was still a GA/FA novice when I wrote the article, but now I've reviewed 30-odd, got 4 of my own and an FA I'm blind to the faults in my writing! Could you possibly have a look and give the prose a bit of a massage? Thanks a lot, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do... but you see my user page? Notice the lack of any stars there? ;) However, references are something I'm good at, so I'll comment on a few here, and then work on the prose.

• Ref 1 needs the publisher
• 27 needs flushing out, as well
• 45; citing IMDb won't fly at FAC
• 59 is too bare
• There's a few more whose reliability I question, but would need to do more investigating before voicing an opinion. Now I'll go do some editing on the prose. (And when I finally get the prose written for the FLC I'm working on, I'll hit you up for a copyedit *winks* ) Courcelles (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I take on copyedits all the time and I've only got one FA star and it was very recent. An eclectic bunch of GAs, though! Besides, I wanted someone I can trust not to completely bollocks up what I've already written! Thanks for the tips- I didn't realise there were imdb cites in there, I thought I'd purged the article of them but evidently not! Thanks for your help on that! As for RfA, I'm not feeling masochistic enough yet. The last one was a bit of a kick in the bollocks if I'm honest and I've got far too much stuff to sort out in mainspace before I could devote a week to an RfA! I might consider it at the start of May when the GAN backlog drive is done with, but that's where I'm spending most of April. I appreciate the thought, though. Really. I'm afraid it's a when not an if (ITN and WP:ERRORS need more admins!), so you fancy nominating (or co-nominating)? Thanks for your help on Lily! Btw, I'll stick your talk page on my watchlist to make it easier! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Prince of Wied

I read somewhere, perhaps on "Le Petit Gotha", that Prince Alexander was surpassed by his brother because he was mentally disabled. Why else would be have been excluded and still be single? Why is this vandalism? And if you knew anything about lines of succession you wouldn't have vandalized the other information about Albania either. 194.38.128.26 (talk) 18:11, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

The policy on living persons doesn't allow any negative information about living persons without impeccable sourcing every time it appears. Your edit had no sourcing whatsoever, which is not acceptable when it contains negative information. To add such information you will need a reliable source; that you read it somewhere isn't good enough. Courcelles (talk) 18:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Fine, I'll remove it. 194.38.128.26 (talk) 18:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Aha! Thought you'd jumped up a couple of notches. Just between you and me, I like to choose my warnings and levels. Kinda personalize the experience. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 18:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

That would be ideal. (Of course, if I had looked at everything, that would have been a 4, just not a 4im.) The trade-off with Huggle is you lose a little of that flexibility, and gain the ability to look over a lot more diffs. I do really wish whoever wrote Huggle had made 4ims and legitimately reached level 4's look a little different. I do choose specific warnings, but normally just trust Huggle to know which the next level is unless I'm choosing a 4im (which is fairly rare. It's been a couple weeks since I gave one that wasn't like this one, where Huggle had been tracking warnings the user was deleting.) Courcelles (talk) 19:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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Dusti^SPEAK!! 02:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

(Amazingly, this is relaxing)

Glad to hear you're enjoying yourself! :-) Simon-in-sagamihara (talk) 06:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

It's what I do on here when I need to think, put on a good CD and go make asteroid stubs while I mull the issue over. It takes just enough of my brain to keep me busy, while not so much that it consumes my attention (or getting me so engaged (or that I forget what I was considering, which is why I don't go somewhere else!) Courcelles (talk) 07:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Welcome Message on my talk Page

Why are you welcoming me when i've already been welcomed? Don't get me wrong I appreciate the friendly gesture, but two welcomings is a little silly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NedTugent (talk • contribs) 14:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

It's a template. There are four levels of messages, and the first always says "welcome to Wikipedia". Courcelles (talk) 14:24, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Your articles on planetary stuff

Hi. You're doing a great job wrt the addition of new articles. A small request. Many of these articles are based on singular sources. While they may be completely satisfactory (all are I guess) and given the newness of your articles, perfectly alright, it would be great if you could perhaps add more sources too. Again, highly appreciate your work. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

What other sources would you want? They exist, there are orbital descriptions, and they were named after someone on some day. And that's, well, it. They're not BLP's that need bunches of sources, in fact, the only other source I know of, the Harvard database is almost impossible to cite because of the cgi they use. (Not that it adds anything tot he JPL source, at any rate.) Courcelles (talk) 05:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

It's not just about your article being based on a single source (multiple sources are preferred in any article; but even I've created stub articles about villages with single sources). But you would necessarily need to put other sources which corroborate the fact that the initial name (of the discovered planet) is the same name as the article you've created? Your current source doesn't corroborate that. In case I have overlooked the same, my apologies. In case you do feel there could be improvement, do please make them. I repeat, your work is highly appreciated. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 06:40, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

p.s: in case you do reply to this note, kindly (like last time) leave a note on my talk. Warm regards btw, I have added one harvard source to the last article you created. Check if that helps ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 06:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and replied over on your talk, here, as it hit me what was going on, and fixing that should resolve everything. *wipes egg off his face* Courcelles (talk) 07:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. It does resolve everything. In fact, there was not much to resolve :) Pleasure chatting up with you. Take care and best. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 07:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Just a note...

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your great record of accurate vandal reversion and correct AIV reports, which I regularly notice and appreciate. ~ mazca talk 17:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

And I also accidentally blocked you shortly afterwards, for which I profusely apologise! :) ~ mazca ^talk 17:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Darn! Twice in fourteen days someone has done that! I'm going to get a complex ;) Courcelles (talk) 17:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

And thank you for the star, It seems like I'm "demanding" a lot of work out of AIV lately. (I think I clicked "revert" five times in five diffs there, and all went to AIV). Hope you're not drowning in reports today! Courcelles (talk) 17:43, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey, it's April Fools Day, it was probably expected... it's easy to block 'em, I'm just happy they're getting spotted. But on that note, have you considered requesting adminship at some point? Looking at your contributions it looks like you've only been really active for 4 months or so so it's probably worth waiting a little while - but keep it in mind, I'd happily nominate you when you're ready. ~ mazca ^talk 18:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I thank you, and it's something that I've begun to at least ponder because it would make some tasks easier, but this isn't the right time for me to really consider it. Maybe when I get through the busy times of April and May I'll give it serious thought and come talk to you. (Of course, my automated edit count would be a show-stopper.) (How's this for four sentences that could be said in three words, "I don't know"!) Courcelles (talk) 03:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Mazca and have wondered the same thing in regards to you possibly running for admin-ship. I personally think that you have demonstrated your abilities outside of just Huggle (the biggest concern towards vandal fighters running) Work at DYK, AfC, Afd, article creations, participating at RfA are all big pluses. With a strong nomination statement addressing these things (In my opinion from watching both successful and not so successful noms, one of the most important first steps in getting the the "trial" off to a good start). I hope you do decide and would be more than happy to write up a nice co-nom/nom if you would like. Kindly Calmer Waters 06:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Wow! If you and I are both getting offers of RfA noms, the admin drought must be really bad! Only joking! However, on that note, I wonder if you'd be up for co-nominating me when I decide to let Fastily start the RfA. Since I plan to use the tools predominantly at ITN and WP:ERRORS, it would be handy to have a nom from somebody who knows me from those areas. I thought I'd ask her since my talk page is very busy at the minute! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You deserve the offers of a nom far more than I do. I'll be on the continent for the second week in May, but I would be honoured to co-nominate you. Courcelles (talk) 07:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, it would be an honour to have your nomination. I'll let you know when I've got a date, anyway. I think you should give some serious thought to standing in the not-too-distant future. I had a poke around the edit counters and, although 77% of your edits are "automated", you've made nearly 10,000 non automated edits which is pretty good. Still, a month or two can't hurt. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

I appreciate the help. I don't know how you find time to vandal-scrub in addition to your other contributions, but I'm glad you do. See ya 'round Tiderolls 05:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Simple, If I'm not travelling, eating, or sleeping, I'm probably in front of a computer bored out of my mind. You do more vandalism work than I do, though, so how do you manage would be a better question! Scrubbing user-pages is just part of the service from one reverter to another. Courcelles (talk) 06:18, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Good work, my man!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Well I find you very difficult to 'compete' with on the old Huggle, so, in recognition of this, I thought I'd present you with this. All the best, Orphan Wiki 18:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much. There always seems to be vandalism on Mondays, so keep up the good work yourself! Courcelles (talk) 21:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Xu Deshuai

I did some copyediting on the article; but as my Chinese is truly awful, I'm not sure there's much else I can do. Courcelles (talk) 03:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

• Great! You can creat a new page like Sandbox. Let us check. (Or sth. u like~)Hoising (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Janine Pietsch

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Materialscientist (talk) 18:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting that IP on my talk page, and apologies for my mistaken rollback of your edit Spitfire^Tally-ho! 21:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

No worries. Happy t help anytime! Courcelles (talk) 22:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Humour

• "I'll avoid any humour here, because I inevitably can't pull it off" —— that doesn't make anyone else at CFD hold back; you should feel free to let 'er rip ... Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, but when I try to be funny, all that I ever get is a bunch of blank stares. Besides, nothing could have topped BrownHairedGirl's comment in that one! Courcelles (talk) 22:55, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

• That's the beauty of the Internet—silence might be blank stares or it might be hysteria. If you just delude yourself into believing it's hysteria, you'll soon be competing with BHG as pun-master extraordinaire. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

• Oh, trust me, there's a reason I only try to be funny after a glass or two of wine. It's the only time I'm out of my mind just enough to think I'm good at it! (But don't be surprised if try a few more puns over at CfD. It's a pretty laid back place.) Courcelles (talk) 00:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Reverted your edit to WP:AIAV.

I just thought I'd let you know that I reverted your edit there with an explanation. - Zhang He (talk) 06:10, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Good man, both for correcting my error and getting that vandalism off my talk page! Courcelles (talk) 06:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. Also, right back at you, except that you reverted vandalism on my userpage rather than my talk page. - Zhang He (talk) 06:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I got tired of my user page being used as a landing pad for vandalism, so I had it protected. It's rare someone comes over here to insult me! Revert, block, ignore is the only good way to deal with it, though. Courcelles (talk) 06:16, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

BOAC 712

Thanks for your comment re my talk page. Others complain it's too complicated, hence the "stick it at the bottom" instruction. I like to work in a methodical manner if at all possible.

Re the GAN, I've seen your comments, but won't do anymore on the article tonight. I do think that the inclusion of the image of BJH in the article can be justified though. Mjroots (talk) 20:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I think all your concerns have now been addressed. Maybe you'd like to have a second read-through. Mjroots (talk) 11:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Further improvements made. I've removed the image of BJH. You do realise the significance of the date if the article is passed today, don't you? Mjroots (talk)

Today is the 42nd anniversary of the accident. There's a few, such as American Airlines Flight 191 I never forget the date of. --Courcelles (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

D=

You've stolen my job. - Zhang He (talk) 17:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

WEll, the bots can take it off both off our hands... whenever they feel like it ;) Courcelles (talk) 17:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Jeez, slow down; let me get some. =( - Zhang He (talk) 18:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I didn't realize it was a race... just working fast, trying to do way too many things at once over here! Courcelles (talk) 18:11, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Lol. - Zhang He (talk) 18:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess I'll come back to it later. You somehow keep beating me. - Zhang He (talk) 18:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Not a race... and I'm off for lunch, at any rate! --Courcelles (talk) 18:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Have a good lunch. By the way, we should be friends. If you have a MySpace or YouTube, you should add me. See my userpage for links. - Zhang He (talk) 18:25, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I might be the only person left in the western world withoutbany social networking site accounts at all. still living in the dark ages, I guess! We can still be friends, though. And since I'm on the road the rest on today, you can enjoy, if that is the word, less company at AIV ,) Courcelles is travelling (Talk to my master) 22:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

If you're wondering...

I've already reported the Athena vandal to WP:AIV. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 18:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I knew. (Huggle won't make a duplicate report... at least when things are working correctly ;) ) Thanks for the note, though. Courcelles (talk) 18:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah. Twinkle stops me from doing it too. But it's always moderately annoying to me when I hit someone at max warning, report to AIV only to discover it's already been done. I feel like I should still drop a warning (if he's continuing to vandalize there should be some record aside from manually scanning his contributions), but there is nowhere to go after a final warning. Quite unsatisfying. :-) —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 18:05, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Great job.

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For taking over the work of the bots while they are down and keeping WP:AIV clean. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I just hope the bots get fixed soon- this is not easy labour to do by hand! Courcelles (talk) 16:42, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Take a break- I've been keeping an eye on it or the last hour or so and it's empty now (touch wood!). HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:51, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Clerking AIV, now HJ? Just one more way vandalism is taking up time that would be so much more productive spent elsewhere. Courcelles (talk) 17:15, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I do a little of everything! If I had the bit, it would be so much easier. Btw, could you have a look at my new WP:ITN/A and see what you think? Btw, stop giving me edit conflicts! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Did you get to look at ITN/A or were you too busy with AIV? I don't know where they all keep coming from but it's been non-stop today! I left a note on AN, though. If you want a break, I'll be happy to take it or a few hours. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I read ITN/A, but as the only place I'm allowed access to admin tools is the Flagged Revisions test wiki, it could be wrong and I wouldn't know. It looks good, but only actual admins will know how easy it is to follow. You don't spend much time actually reverting vandalism- today is a slow day! You keep doing other things- your time is much better spent writing articles or doing GAN's. I can handle the "bot" work for a while longer. --Courcelles (talk) 18:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Well the admins I've spoken to so far seem to think it's OK. Not bad considering I wrote it from scratch, never having edited the template! I don't do much recent change patrolling, no, I just whack whatever comes up on my watchlist (which contains almost every problem BLP on here!). I'll keep checking on AIV in between other stuff, but let me know if you need a hand. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

RE:AIV

Sorry didnt notice someone must of got to the page to report him before me lol STATicVerseatide talk 20:37, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Just didn't want you to see your report gone and wonder what happened. Courcelles (talk) 20:38, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

It moves!

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Consider this a kind of "if I gave you a barnstar for everything barnstar worthy you do, I'd never get any sleep so you'll just have to make do with this"! This is in recognition of all the effort you put in to everything you do in almost all corners of the wiki, including manually clerking AIV until the bots were back up. You're a great editor, keep it up! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?

I was going to use the multiple one, but the markup is too complicated! At least I have time to give you this now we're not clerking AIV! Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:55, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar- and thank you for clerking AIV alongside me the last two days. Only you or Zheng (or someone else I missed) will understand how grateful I am not to be doing it this morning. I've managed to accomplish absolutely nothing on-wiki over the last two days due to picking up the bot's slack, but it's done and over with. I'm looking forward to an afternoon of kicking back, holding the dog, and watching golf. (Who am I kidding- I'll end up working on something on this list if I know myself. Note, I haven't forgotten about Ms. Cole, I just keep getting roped up in some other task.) Courcelles (talk) 10:41, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't move :(. Does it on your screen? I understand! Skater joked on the talk page that we made a fine substitute but never have I appreciated a bot so much! I've accomplished very little over the last few days, but since I can't stand golf, I've got some article work to do and then I'll probably go back to GA reviewing. I'm disappointed that so many people so vehemently oppose letting MisterWiki back and I need to spend less time in project space before I end up getting stressed over it. Btw, check your email in a minute! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:15, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of Olympic medalists in softball

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Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)