User talk:Catfish Jim and the soapdish/Archive 26

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AOC in Category:American bartenders

Hi there, could you elaborate on why you don't think Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez doesn't belong in this category? She isn't a bartender now, of course, but neither are Mark Cuban, Paul LePage, or Austin Rogers (Jeopardy! contestant). Nor is her work as a bartender obscure trivia; it's mentioned in the article lede and has often been mentioned in coverage of her.

Now, I could've sworn we used to have a guideline about this that used the example of Ronald Reagan not being in Category:Lifeguards, but I failed to find it yesterday--and today I see he is in that category. So... what's the argument for excluding AOC from this one? --BDD (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Is she a bartender? Is it even a remotely relevant or noteworthy aspect of her persona? I had assumed this was the work of a troll vandalising an article... apologies for that. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 21:42, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
She was, yes, and categories cover previous statuses too. aoc bartender shows lots of relevant results, whether positive ("She's a real working person!"), negative ("She's nothing but a bartender!"), or neutral. I can certainly understand being very vigilant with a controversial topic like this, but no trolling intended, no. I'll go ahead and re-add it; we can always go to the talk page if needed. --BDD (talk) 21:51, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I won't revert you or take it up on the talk page. I am surprised that an editor with your experience thinks this appropriate, but I don't want to fall out about it. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 22:24, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I do recall the policy being different, but since even the canonical example I remember (Reagan and lifeguards) is no longer valid... --BDD (talk) 23:50, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I haven't looked at the policy, BDD, but it seems to me that this is a valid inclusion, yes. Drmies (talk) 02:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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Quotation

It is a rule of thumb (one so obvious that we probably don't have a written policy on it) that you absolutely should not use references you have never seen, no matter how sure you are that it must say what you want it to say. -- Catfish Jim and the soapdish 08:14, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Would you mind if I put that quote on my userpage? I feel it SHOULD have a capslink. Maybe WP:CATFISHJIM. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:55, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

No problem at all... feel free! Catfish Jim and the soapdish 16:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Pict Dispute

You commented at DRN that LightProof1995 was editing disruptively. I am about to open moderated discussion if at least two editors agree to moderated discussion. My question is whether you would like to be involved in the discussion, either as the moderator, as another volunteer, or as a party to the discussion, or whether you plan to observe the discussion, or to leave it alone. (Any answer is fine with me. I would just like to know what if any your role will be, after you have cautioned the filing editor.) Robert McClenon (talk) 05:01, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Robert, I'll be party to the discussion. The dispute is due to LP95's inexperience... we've all been there. I'd rather not have to have him topic banned, but it may be necessary. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 23:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Now the dispute over the editor is getting weird, because the editor has weird ideas. At first I thought that there was concern about LightProof95's posts about reincarnation. and transgender people. Not exactly. No comma. I now see that they are posting about the cause-and-effect relationship between reincarnation and transgender. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Yes. It took me a bit of time to get my head around it. I didn't enjoy taking this to ANI, knowing how it would go down, but the trajectory was unavoidable. I feel quite sorry for LP95 and find this quite telling [1]. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 21:39, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
It was sad how rapidly the tide turned from hearing that a topic-ban might be necessary to discussion of a site ban. This was a case of a user who was in a hole and continued digging. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
I don't think it could have been prevented. What we have is a very enthusiastic editor who is making mistakes that are causing a massive time sink for those they interact with. I think they're quite young, possibly a lot younger than the 1995 in the username might suggest. I don't know if the problematic behaviour can be solved through mentoring, but I have offered some help.
I noticed your admin hopeful userbox. I haven't had any time to go through your edit history, but I have a feeling you might make a good candidate... are you sure you're interested and do you have a thick skin? Catfish Jim and the soapdish 17:51, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Picts

Well done and thanks for handling this: it was really well done, and in you refutations I learned a lot about Scottish history and the historical method:) It had seemed a simple competence issue until about half-way though the ANI; wow what a blow out. To be fair the came clean in a big way, but the indef was right...and given their interest in the Picts, my guess is that the editor was prone to the bizzar, and was going to hop from topic to topic misunderstanding google book previews, making bold claims and bludgeoning into exhaustion anyone who actually knew the content area. Ceoil (talk) 01:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

It wasn't particularly enjoyable, but there was no other way to fix the issue, other than WP:IARing a block... but WP:INVOLVED is something I wouldn't want to mess too much with. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 11:29, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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Recently banned editor you are mentoring

An editor you have been mentoring was recently site banned by the community, which according to the policy page means they are a persona non grata across the ENTIRE site and cannot edit anywhere. I think that means this mentorship program is functionally over and you should move on. (Copied from user’s talk page after getting kicked off it) Dronebogus (talk) 23:28, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm viewing this as part of his appeal process. Bans/blocks are not supposed to be punitive, they are preventative. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 07:37, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Change old user page to redir?

Hi. I see you're an admin and a friend of Ceoil's. Is there any way I can change my old user page, Lingzhi.Random, to a redir to my current username? If you can't do it, that's OK. Ceoil can verify I'm me via email. Thank in advance,  Lingzhi.Renascence (talk) 00:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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Not going to ask you

But I assumed you'd seen the Wikipediocracy thread exposing their pedophilia and KKK membership. Shame T&S weren't on the ball like that *facepalm* They literally let him carry on for years. SN54129 17:30, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that is my reason. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 17:43, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
If anyone else is interested, I indeffed Kintetsubuffalo on the basis of this... [2] I will not discuss this matter in terms of whether the block was appropriate, if the community feels I have overstepped the mark, then so be it. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 17:51, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
The community will buy you a bloomin' good drink in celebration if it does nothing else. And recommend you for head of T&S! SN54129 19:39, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) +1. Thumbs up icon --Jayron32 18:35, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
I’m reporting this charming individual on WMC and am going to look into a global ban from Wikimedia. Dronebogus (talk) 12:07, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

A bloomin’ good drink for you!

Self explanatory Dronebogus (talk) 18:37, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Catfish Jim and the soapdish a very Jim and the soapdish happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Comr Melody Idoghor (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
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