User talk:CamerasAndCoffee

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Happy editing! Cheers, --WikiLinuz {talk} 🍁 18:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! This is excellent! CamerasAndCoffee (talk) 19:29, 29 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Changing dates on citations[edit]

Hey. Just wanted to draw your attention to something. Most articles are tagged with one of two templates; {{use dmy dates}} or {{use mdy dates}}. The Harry Potter article you edited just now is tagged with {{use dmy dates}}, so dates in that article should be in the format d mmmm yyyy. Please be careful to check for that template at the top of an article, before editing the date format of any dates in an article. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also when using the |work=, |website=, or |magazine= parameters, the value you want to enter is the name of the source and not the domain name. For example, in this edit to Offers.com, the |magazine= parameter should have been set to |magazine=[[Money (magazine)]]. This then creates a wikilink in the references table to the article for that publication. Sideswipe9th (talk) 19:06, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the helpful insights and tips! @Sideswipe9th CamerasAndCoffee (talk) 19:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rankings[edit]

https://news.utexas.edu/2022/03/29/ut-austin-ranks-among-top-4-public-universities-in-latest-graduate-school-rankings/ “Best Graduate Schools” from U.S. News & World Report.

In this ranking, Michigan ranks second in the country with 118 graduate programs ranked in the top ten, exceeded only fractionally by Berkeley and clearly a significant margin over the third ranked school. I've put this entry on your page because of your recent addition of the "Money" ranking with the thought that you might care to include this ranking as well. Thanks in advance for any thoughts in this domain. Bluedudemi (talk) 20:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Connection to Money.com?[edit]

Do you happen to have a connection to Money.com? Just curious as nearly every one of your edits is directly related to that website. ElKevbo (talk) 21:10, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could answer this question, please? Wikipedia has policies that prohibit undisclosed paid editing and discourage conflicts of interest. ElKevbo (talk) 23:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good afternoon @ElKevbo,

Thank you so much for reaching out and using this opportunity to contact me and help me better understand the guidelines of Wikipedia. I truly appreciate it.

I completely understand your concern, but truly, my intentions with these corrections/edits were never to hide in any way or form my connection as a Community Engagement Specialist at Money.com. My goal here is and will continue to be to help provide educational resources and tools for those looking to improve their personal finances or make well-informed decisions at any stage of life.

We just want to make sure that the readers that come on to this platform looking for help and resources still have access to helpful financial resources.

That being said, if you have any recommendations to how I can improve my User Page bio, please let me know. I would never want to mislead a user with the information shared on my behalf. Aside from that, I will be looking more in depth to the guidelines you shared with me to make sure I do my best here.

Thank you again Kevin for helping me better understand the policies, this is all very new to me, I am learning and trying to grow my experience here everyday.

Hope this message helps clarify your question and concern. CamerasAndCoffee (talk) 18:42, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello CamerasAndCoffee. You have a financial stake in promoting a topic but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

You are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:CamerasAndCoffee. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=CamerasAndCoffee|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. ElKevbo (talk) 19:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop adding links to your employer until you have established that there is a consensus to do so. This may be a good venue to open a discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 22:14, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @ElKevbo

Thank you for following up and for the previous help.

Regarding your message to stop editing until I have established that there is a consensus to do so. I have displayed my disclosure in more than one way by adding it to my user page/talk page with the Paid-contribution disclosure template required. Additionally, I have also been including it to every following edit summary description since having our conversation. I reassure the fact that I am not trying to hide or mislead anyone with my association.

We are a team dedicated to sharing our well-rounded and informative articles. Our methodology (https://money.com/best-colleges/methodology/) breakdown speaks for itself and thoroughly explains how we evaluated data when ranking Universities if anyone else was to have any concerns.

I do not believe Wikipedia is meant to repeatedly confront or inhibit other people’s work when the user has disclosed their employer, client and affiliation with respect to edits. My understanding is that after leaving me multiple messages about the same concern, when I have already added my disclosure, seems a bit unnecessary. Kevin, I thank you again and appreciate your hard work within Wikipedia, but I politely ask you to stop messaging/hounding my talk page. Have a wonderful rest of your week! CamerasAndCoffee (talk) 13:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Here from COIN: WP:PAY specifically says regarding paid editors:

you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly;
you may propose changes on talk pages by using the {{request edit}} template or by posting a note at the COI noticeboard, so that they can be peer reviewed;

Please note, where it says you are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly, that is commonly taken by most editors as you are prohibited, especially when the paid editing is strictly promotional in nature, like essentially spamming links to your employer all around collegiate articles under the guise of "we ranked this college like this". Thinly veiled WP:LINKSPAM by a paid editor will likely get you blocked. I'd recommend reviewing our policies and guidelines, specifically the part about suggesting changes on the talk age. FrederalBacon (talk) 16:35, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned above, I have not tried to hide or mislead anyone with my connection to Money.com. It is disclosed on my user page, as well as on my talk page with the paid contributor template, as specified by Wikipedia’s Guidelines.

I am quite new to Wikipedia and still learning all the processes, etc. Based on Wikipedia’s Guidelines, I comply with:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid-contribution_disclosure

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Connected_contributor_(paid)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_web

Wikipedia’s is not a soapbox or means of promotion: Section 5. Advertising, marketing or public relations says, “External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they identify notable organizations which are the topic of the article.”

To my understanding, all of the edits have been linked/related to the topic of each individual university. The contributions of their university profiles count with verifiable data, that provides helpful information for students such as financial aid, costs, and student success rates, among others, and in no way are intended to misinform. This is why I was confused about the matter.

I wanted to use this space to clear up that this is not a shared account, it is used by only one user, me. The statement “We are a team dedicated to sharing our well-rounded and informative articles.”, means our work as the overall company is dedicated to this. I hope this helps with any confusion moving forward.

I want to reiterate that I am still learning all of Wikipedia’s processes. There is a whole lot to keep discovering and I am genuinely interested in knowing if there's anything I’m not in compliance with. If it is the case, I apologize and will take the opportunity to correct, improve, and better understand all edits/requests processes moving forward. Thank you @FrederalBacon for the resources and insight. I will be following your advice and what you have shared with me today going on.

~~~~ CamerasAndCoffee (talk) 12:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOT is not the place of note here. WP:CITESPAM is: Often these are added not to verify article content, but rather to populate numerous articles with a particular citation. Variations of citation spamming include academics and scientists using their editing privileges primarily to add citations to their own work, and people replacing live or dead URLs with links to commercial sites or their own blogs. Citation spamming is a subtle form of spam and should not be confused with legitimate good-faith additions intended to verify article content and help build the encyclopedia.

Changing dead Time links to Money links certainly applies. So does adding "my employer ranked this college this way on this list" that does absolutely nothing to improve the article except add Money.com into the citations. We are not as dumb as you think we are. Especially when you find a time link in a talk page archive from 6 years ago and change it, it's pretty clear you're searching for time links to change to money links. FrederalBacon (talk) 23:20, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion[edit]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. ElKevbo (talk) 22:14, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:CamerasAndCoffee[edit]

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Marking edits as minor[edit]

Hi CamerasAndCoffee! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Virginia Tech that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. This includes adding or replacing references. Gusfriend (talk) 22:31, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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