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Archive 13 ← ⚛️ → Archive 15

note

il2 page must keep note "level 3 from 2022", at least till qualifiers end next week...please fix as page changed again. also still use both names

also your 2020 logo is used as vandalism on league page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.190.100 (talk) 08:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

List of SC East Bengal seasons

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article List of SC East Bengal seasons has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the FL.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist thanks a lot :)  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Pancha Pandavas

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Pancha Pandavas has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the GAN.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

the logo you uploaded is not even of High quality. The background from logo is also not removed. can you please re-upload the logo with high definition clarity and also removing the background. you can use https://www.remove.bg/ to remove the background. thank you DaDeadzombie (talk) 14:43, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@DaDeadzombie Hi, Since its a logo, anyone can update and improve it. Also, the current logo I uploaded is just a temporary one and will upload a vector of that later.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  05:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Historical article on Kolkata

Hello.I am new to Wikipedia. I am writing to you as you reviewed this article and gave it a badge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Calcutta_Turf_Club An article on a similar instituton is currently in need of improvement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Club I tried to do so by looking at the article you reviewed and awarded. Like the article you reviewed, I tried to mention famous royal visitors, famous club presidents etc, and also quoted Geoffrey Moorehouse (who is mentioned in the article you reviewed and awarded). The difference is that I added more details, quotes and photos. The article received a negative review for being written like an "essay". I have tried to edit and improve the draft. I removed many quotes and just kept a few historically significant quotes. Here is the new version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Bengal_Club

Can you please advise me on whether the new version is ok? Thank you.

Anderson1970 (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Hi. Since the article on Bengal Club already exists, you need to improve that, instead of developing a new one. Regarding the Turf Club article, I didn't review that, I helped to promote to the Good Article badge 😅. Start with merging your draft with the existing article with proper reliable citations.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  18:29, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. Can you please tell me how to merge? An editor from the India Wikipedia community page kindly wrote back to me and gave me advice. He also shortened the opening paragraph. Following the advice, I have now shortened it drastically. However, the editor did not say anything about merging. Rather he said if I cut the article (which I have) it will be accepted as the topic is notable.

Also, the current article is just a few lines and gives an old link. Also, the current article is giving a wrong fact that the club was known by another name. I researched and saw this is not true. A blogpost also says it is a common misconception.

What should I do now? The curent status is this:

- The current article is too short and has wrong info. - My sandbox draft is 100% backed by citations but was rejected first. It is now better with an editor's help and has been submitted for re-review.


Anderson1970 (talk) 19:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Merging in the sense that add the data in Bengal Club from the Draft:The Bengal Club. It doesn't matter whether it is short or long etc. That is why we all are here, to collaboratively improve and expand articles, right? You can remove the unsourced/incorrect information.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  20:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
@Anderson1970 And yes, the club was known as "Calcutta United Services Club" as per their website  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  20:12, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks. I will copy-paste it then and perhaps leave a message on the talk page to explain what I have done. Thanks for the link. In my view, there is some confusion. The authoritative history says that the club was planned to be called the CALCUTTA United Services Club, but they stuck with Bengal Club in the end. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.38290. The link you sent also says CALCUTTA United Services Club. However, there was a different club called BENGAL United Services Club, established in 1845, which is also mentioned in the book. The photo on the original Wiki page has a photo of the BENGAL United Services Club. Here is the blogpost I was referrign to. The blogpost criticises Wikipedia for givign wrong information: "On 15th March 1853, the Bengal Military Club changed its name to the Bengal United Service Club. This change in name has led several websites, including Wikipedia, to state that the Bengal Club started out as the United Service Club. This is absolutely incorrect." http://double-dolphin.blogspot.com/2016/04/united-service-club-chowringhee-calcutta-kolkata.html

The Telegraph says: "The Bengal United Service Club was founded in 1845 as The Bengal Military Club." It has a photo of the bulding, which still exists.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/west-bengal/maltese-cross-in-city-heart/cid/1258480

Perhaps I will leave a note on the talk page.

Anderson1970 (talk) 20:41, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Anderson1970: I was not aware that Bengal Club already exists. Since your article is a draft, you don't need to do a merge. Just add your information directly into Bengal Club (keep the tone neutral and not promotional) and you should be good. I can delete your draft once you're done. You should also take the draft out of the AfC process.--RegentsPark (comment) 20:52, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, friend. I will let you know when I add the article. In the meantime, I left a message on the talk page arguing that the present article has many faults and should be removed entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bengal_Club

Anderson1970 (talk) 04:22, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Do not remove anything if it is sourced. Regarding the name confusion, just describe that who called/planned which name.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  06:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

@RegentsPark and @Saha

Hello. As I am new and a bit confused, I modified the article's talk page instead and pasted the sandbox draft there. I listed the mistakes in the old article and suggested why there should be a new article, though I did retain a few things from the old article. Can you please take a look at the talk page? If you like it, then I can paste it and you can then delete the sandbox draft. Also, if you like the revised style I can post new historical articles on colonial topics like this . Let me know. Thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bengal_Club https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:The_Bengal_Club Anderson1970 (talk) 10:38, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

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help

I-League system vandalised again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.137.5.224 (talk) 05:51, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Can you remove word second at article beginning please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.207.155 (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Done  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  17:40, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

...top tier competition...not repeating football league, would sound better. Tnx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.207.155 (talk) 17:48, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

thanks for pointing it out  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  18:42, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Help

Brother, I've been facing huge trouble to archive references at a time for an article. I've changed it to advance and desktop mode but failed to find "view history". For a long time I'm finding the way but failed. Am I facing problem just because of mobile edit or not? My wp no 8961237844 — can you plz guide Arnab (showing where to find "View history") 🙏🏻 Billjones94 (talk) 05:03, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Billjones94, actually I dont use whatsapp 😅. Can you share me some screenshot via email? It will be easier for me to understand.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  15:03, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

I've mailed you through Wikipedia but don't know how to send photos through this platform. [email protected] I'll be sending photos through this personal email :)

@Billjones94 no issues. for sharing photo with other editors, I use either email or the discord server of wikipedia  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:50, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

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I league

Sentence before history part .... Churchill Brothers, Mohun Bagan, and Bengaluru have won the league twice... needs fix (no , after bagan) as locked, asked you please 93.140.185.90 (talk) 18:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah right. Someone used American english  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  18:26, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Wiki article for Boxwallah=

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxwallah

Hello. I made lots of changes to the above article and practically rewrote most of it. Can you please see if it's ok? The main changes I made are:

- Gave two definitions of boxwallah, discussed postcolonial definition extensively. - Removed sentences with "citation needed". Rewrote and gave proper citations like Collins Dictionary, Hobson Jobson, VS Naipaul etc. - Mentioned the Satyajit Ray film Seemabaddha.

If this is ok then I can keep going and add a lot more information and academic citations.

Thank you.


Anderson1970 (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 No issues at all. Keep up the good work  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  12:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Sources for the corridor names of Kolkata Suburban Railway

Hi, I mostly work on creating and improving routemaps and railway route articles for railways in Indian subcontinent (right now focusing on Eastern & North East India).

I was going through the Kolkata Suburban Railway article and noticed that you have added some corridor names for the different branch lines like Southeast branch line for Panskura-Haldia line, West Elevated branch line for Seoraphuli-tarakeswar branch line, etc amongst others. Are there any sources for these names ? If yes can you please share. I couldn't find anything. If no can you let me know why was this done ? Is this a standard practice or was it for any other reason like formatting etc?

Thanks, GoldenDragon2293Return (talk) 15:26, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@GoldenDragon2293Return Hi. Thanks for your great work, I just love them. The corridor names are generally the terminals of that line. There are no source as such. It was present before I started working on them and I just continued it.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  05:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
@ArnabSaha Thank you for very much for the information @ArnabSaha. I intend to correct and improve them with sources when I work on the KSR page. GoldenDragon2293Return (talk) 05:59, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Vandalism

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1054982720

Please revert 93.143.117.68 (talk) 20:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Reverted  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  05:34, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Boxwallah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxwallah

Hello. Further to my last message, I have researched on the article extensively and finish rewriting it. I have nothing else to add and will move on to other articles. Can you please check if the article is now acceptable and the box at the "citations needed" box can be removed? Thanks a lot. To sum up my changes:

1. I gave two definitions of the word. 2. I added photos. All are CC photos excepting a screenshot which I added from a movie (available for free legally on YouTube) and I think is fair use. 3. The article had wrong information about a book and misattributed it to Kipling. I deleted that and mentioned the error in the talk page. Unfortunately, some websites have copied the wrong info from Wikipedia. I saw the same thing with another page I am working on, which had mistaken (the Bengal Club). 4. The only parts of the old article i have retained are references to a Kipling short story and an Evelyn Waugh story. That his all. Everything else is new.

You may also be interested to see another new article I created from scratch, also about colonial Calcutta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liverpool_versus_Calcutta,_1880

Thanks a lot.

Anderson1970 (talk) 06:58, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Boxwallah article looks good. I have removed the tag. The websites that copy from Wikipedia aren't our matter of concern, so leave them. Also, can you provide me the link of the video? The licensing of the screenshot needs some changes, and I will do that.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  09:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! Here is the movie link. The photo of Hindusthan Peters appears in the first scene itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORb6BwyHkY


Anderson1970 (talk) 10:01, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Sreenid(h)i

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Y._S._Rajasekhara_Reddy_International_Cricket_Stadium

proposed ground should be added on i league page, also minor fix from club web where sponsor is noted "sree group" 93.140.228.133 (talk) 15:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

No, we cant add proposed thing, as it violates WP:CRYSTAL  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  17:47, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Ok at least fix sponsor name pls — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.140.228.133 (talk) 20:22, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Calcutta Swimming Club

Hello again. I wanted to let you know that I rewrote this article pretty much entirely, retaining just a few lines from the original which had sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Calcutta_Swimming_Club

The old article was very short, had no photos, had some mistakes, had a lack of sources, had some dead links, and had very little historical information. I tried to rectify all of this and give authoritative citations (expect for a few facts, for which I relied on the club website (as the previous author had done). Is this ok? I would be grateful if you could please take a look.

Also, I have a small doubt. I am receiving messages about 2 movie screenshots I uploaded but I cannot understand how to provide the information that it is (arguably) covered by fair use. I added a tag but I don't think I did it properly.

Thank you.

Anderson1970 (talk) 17:50, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Hi. Regarding the movie screenshots, Directly uploading the screenshots of the movies isn't correct as per the policies. You can mail me the screenshots and will try to discuss with the admins. Regarding the article, at a glance, I count find any issues. Its absolutely fine.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  17:55, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! I could not see your email id, so I uploaded it to We Transfer. Is that ok?

Seemabaddha movie scene file: we[dot]tl/t-dGXNnzzFfO Original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORb6BwyHkY (at 35:19 the first view of the club, at around 35:27 the scene copied)

Ogo Bodhu movie scene file: we[dot]tl/t-UsstVP6Lgs Original source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiufsvYGkgM (at 0:30 entering the club, at around 1:35 the scene copied)

I am sorry if I am bothering you too much! Anderson1970 (talk) 18:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 No issues at all. We are here to discuss and improve the articles, right!
To mail any user (if you use desktop), then go the user's page or user's talkpage. Check the left side bard under the Wikipedia logo. You will find "Email this user" there. If you use mobile, then you can change to desktop view and repeat the same process.
I will check the files tomorrow, feeling sleepy 😅 😴  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  18:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Isl season

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_Indian_Super_League_season "Regular season ---- possible qualification" in small letters please 93.140.228.133 (talk) 20:20, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

not required, check the EPL article...  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  16:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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New situation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1056439493

Can he get warning please, until all afc leagues get same pattern as only other way...but i was reverted while ago and told to follow pattern where country is only linked in introduction 93.143.96.62 (talk) 04:29, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes, why not. Flagicons should not be used in infoboxes as per MOS:INFOBOXFLAG  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  09:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Boxwallah article image issue

Hello I received the message below regarding the Boxwallah article I rewrote. Can you please help me? Thank you. This is the image I uploaded on the ground of fair use. If it's not fair use then I can simply upload a photo of Satyajit Ray instead.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hindusthan_Peters.png


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Anderson1970 (talk) 17:35, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 Sorry, I couldnt work on the licensing of those images. Let it get deleted, then will upload the images afresh with proper licensing. No need to panic. And really sorry again.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  18:17, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! On the contrary, I should be apologising to you for bothering you all the time!

Anderson1970 (talk) 18:24, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Bengal Club article

Hello again. I have now finished rewriting the Bengal Club article. I followed your advice and uploaded it part by part, while cross-checking all citations. Could you please check and see if it is ok? A few editors had made edits while I was uploading the sections, but these were just minor edits like typo corrections and citation formats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bengal_Club

The article is longer than the Calcutta Swimming Club article, as I found a lot more material. I tried to borrow ideas from these articles:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waldorf_Astoria_New_York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberal_Club

I explained earlier in the talk page the errors I would be correcting and the citations I would be retaining.

Thank you again for your help!

Anderson1970 (talk) 04:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 The article is in a pretty good shape now. I would suggest you to go through WP:GA and WP:GACR, and try to promote it the Good Article status.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  19:24, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I also added a Barnstar to your main page meant to thank editors who help novice users, though I think I may have formatted it wrongly!

Anderson1970 (talk) 05:51, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@Anderson1970 thanks a lot for the barnstar. btw, always use the talkpage for sending messages, barnstars etc. Some users (like me) organise and showcase them in their userpages afterwards.  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  06:23, 26 November 2021 (UTC)


Thanks. I am pasting the barnstar here then:

The Helping Hand Barnstar
As I am a new user and this user helped me with fair use image permissions and various other types of guidance on how to write articles in Wikipedia

Anderson1970 (talk) 06:40, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

Notability

Hi, Can you tell me the minimum notability required to make a page of a club or player also tournament in Indian football. Bharat0078 (talk) 09:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Bharat0078 Hello. the criteria is different for player and club.
Club: If it plays/has played in 2nd division league, and has enough sources for data, then its notable. If the club doesn't play national league, but participates in states league, then if it has high media coverage, then also its notable.
Player: Only if the player has an appearance in I-League/ISL. Also check WP:NFOOTY  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  09:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Saha Is playing in national level tournament not notable? Durand cup or super Cup etc? Bharat0078 (talk) 10:16, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Bharat0078 No, only leagues are considered. You can find the List of Fully professional leagues here WP:FPL  Saha ❯❯❯ Stay safe  13:33, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Saha how are army green army red are notable they only play Durand cup.

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