User talk:Alex 21/Archive 23

Thirteenth Doctor has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, AlexTheWhovian. Thirteenth Doctor, an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Info about Christmas Special from DW S10 article

Alex, why did you remove the information about the 2017 Christmas special from the S10 article? It refers the reader to the talk page, but I can't find a rationale there. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 23:39, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey, DM. I somewhat explained it at Talk:Doctor Who (series 10) § David Bradley - while the special may be part of Series 10's production block, no Christmas special actually belongs to a series like a regular episode does, they're separate in their own right. So, information on the Christmas special shouldn't really be added to a series that it doesn't belong to, if that makes sense; that's why David Bradley's appearance in the Series 10 finale was re-added, but not expanded to note the Christmas special. -- Alex^TW 23:43, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

OK. I have to say, given the production team, episode timeline, and transition to follow it, it seems minimally common-sense that the episode will be part of S10, so I'd err on the site of inclusion. Chibnall will produce S11, and he's had nothing to do with this episode. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 23:50, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

It would make sense that it's more part of Series 10 than Series 11 (we're predicting that Series 10's home media release is being delayed so the special can be included in it), but as an episode, it's not part of any series, but a separate thing in its own right, meaning that information relating to it should be kept solely to its own article. -- Alex^TW 23:52, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

That's an assumption on your part. It's one sentence, and needs to be somewhere. Until we have a better place, the S10 article is the most logical location. I commented in more detail on the article talk page. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 23:56, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

What's an assumption? That it's not a part of Series 10? I can back it up through the BBC, their official episode guide does not add any special to a particular series. I mean, I won't revert you, but it definitely warrants a discussion on the article's talk page. It's also why there's minimal information about the previous special, "The Return of Doctor Mysterio" (there's probably more than there should be). -- Alex^TW 00:00, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Left for Uni, I'll reply to any further posts when I get back. -- Alex^TW 00:12, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Doctor Who (series 2)

The article Doctor Who (series 2) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Doctor Who (series 2) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sagecandor -- Sagecandor (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Good job! Sagecandor (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

"British-American", Game of Thrones

Would appreciate some input here following your earlier revert. Cheers - blake- 15:00, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Kaabil

Hi Alex, re: this, if you have any opinions on the suitability for inclusion, I opened a discussion on the user's talk page yesterday. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:21, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Yeah, that's how I saw the edits, as I've got the editor's talk page on my watchlist. -- Alex^TW 12:27, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Ah! Thx. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:08, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

TfD

Now what? Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 22:56, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@Callmemirela: Now, we have editors creating more templates, since they must have personally deemed it being closed as "keep" rather than "no consensus". Given that we were given the recommendation of "continuing the discussion, perhaps on the talk page of one of the WikiProjects", we can go back to discussing it at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television § Television ratings graph. -- Alex^TW 23:35, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Teen Wolf (season 6)

I just want to know why in the articles of The Walking Dead, do not you do the same as this?. It's a single season, I think the right thing would be to leave the date started and ready and at the end when the series ends, it closes with the final date. As the infobox indicates.--Philip J Fry :  Talk  05:09, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Philip J Fry: Well, mostly because I don't actually follow or regularly edit the articles for anything related to The Walking Dead, given that I've only seen the first three seasons a few years ago... As for the Teen Wolf article and the addition, it is because the season has deliberately been advertised and released on home media as the two separate parts of Season 6A and 6B, instead of the singular season of Season 6. The infobox is meant to be a summary of the article - this infobox separation summarizes the separation of the episode table, which I note there has been no mention of when it comes to indicating the two parts, nor for the series overview on the LoE article. -- Alex^TW 05:18, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Then it would have to include that same edition in the previous seasons of Teen Wolf, something that I have not seen, because the season 5 also is divided.--Philip J Fry :  Talk  05:21, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Philip J Fry: Fair enough that. Added. -- Alex^TW 05:38, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Wayward Pines

You should NOT ARBITRARILY undo people's contributions WITHOUT citing actual policy. Your comment of "We don't post if something isn't cancelled yet, officially or not, we add information about what WILL happen, not what WILL NOT." is MERELY your OPINION. It is not only INCORRECT, it is nonsensical. Even based on your illogical thinking, I DID post information what WILL / IS happening with the show. Which people should be able to go to the article and find out. I went to the WP page to find out the status of the show. There is NOTHING there. So I added "official", cited information, so that if other people go there looking for information, they would find it. In MOS:TV, they even state: "Cancellation and future: This section may address details that led to a program's cancellation OR THE STATUS OF ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR A PROGRAM." And, although that is under "Background and production" section, they also state, "...or it may be more beneficial to have some material combined", which is what is being done in that article with the CURRENT STATUS of the show in the top section, which IS NOT THERE (or can be considered "out of date"), which is why I added it. Your draconian attitude is not beneficial to the proper editing of Wikipedia. WillBo (talk) 07:24, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

When I said "talk page", it was clear I meant the article talk page, not my personal talk page. Anyways... You are incorrect. I would recommend that you learn the guidelines and consensus' of the Television WikiProject, and understand what you are taking about and adding. If you would like, I recommend posting this same discussion on the talk page of the WikiProject, and you'll find that the editors there will agree with what I will be replying with. Reversions of edits do not need policies or guidelines to be justified; in fact, per WP:BRD, once an edit is reverted, you should not have reverted it again, but rather should have started a discussion straight away.

You added the information that the series is not officially cancelled. If there's no news on it, then why add it? There is no need. It is not airing in Summer 2017? For starters, we do not refer to times of the year in seasons, per given the difference of the seasons between each hemisphere. And it's not airing in Summer 2017? And? We'll add information on when Season 3 will air when information on when Season 3 will air is available. There are no future plans for the series, there's no plans at all, hence why you found nothing on the article.

Your uncivil attitude, personal attacks and shouting at and towards editors you disagree with is not beneficial to the proper editing of Wikipedia. If you continue to talk thus on my talk page, you will find this discussion removed from it. -- Alex^TW 08:00, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

The Tenderloins error

Hi AlexTheWhovian, do you know what's causing the error on The Tenderloins#Timeline article please?--Theo Mandela (talk) 02:37, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

@Theo Mandela: Yep, fixed it. Two typos using "Jaes" instead of "James". -- Alex^TW 04:03, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Illegal versions of shows as unreliable

G'day, is there any discussion / consensus anywhere regarding this? Especially for Game of Thrones where 6/7 people are watching via illegitimate means, how does this invalidate the information, especially when it has been confirmed as the actual episode? — IVORK _Discuss 14:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

The number of people who watch it via that method is irrelevant, same as whether it's the official episode; adding plot summaries from illegally released episodes is a copyright violation, which itself is a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. -- Alex^TW 14:20, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Teen Wolf

Hey bud, I have a question. Why is that you continue to change anything revolving around the cast of Teen Wolf for season 6? For instance, on the main page, Dylan O'Brien should be noted as be a regular for seasons 1-6 but he's also a guest for season 6. Many other shows follow the same format where they list it that way Not to mention someone added a note of that on the season 6 page and you removed it. He's no longer a regular in the back half of season 6 so it definitely should be noted.Joshie (New Horizons Await You) 04:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Unnecessary detail that can be explored in other, more relevant articles. And perhaps you should reword your wording of "anything", hm? Dylan O'Brien is credited as main cast in the first half of the sixth season, and guest cast in the second half. Cheerio. -- Alex^TW 07:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Impractical Jokers

Hi User:AlexTheWhovian, I've changed the colours of season 1 & 2 on List of Impractical Jokers episodes to better suit the DVD covers, but I can't find the hexes for seasons 3 & 4, as colorhunter.com [1] is not very good (3 cover [2] and 4 cover [3]), can you find the hexes please? And if you could find hexes for season 5, 6 and specials, or if they don't have DVDs, then promotional posters please
Also: should colours of Sons of Anarchy (season 5) and The Walking Dead (season 7) be changed, because their from the text instead of the image?--Theo Mandela (talk) 17:51, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Special episodes

These episodes were missing from the list and were added in good faith. And the layout now suits that of "canon". I wish you all the best.

p.s. I bet you'd love it over at TARDIS wiki, the official wikia of Doctor Who.

Best wishes 82.3.146.201 (talk) 19:46, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Dresken, the IP posted here after I reverted their initial edit, and it seems to be in working order (sure, it could do with a few minor fixes), so I'm wondering how you consider it to be vandalism? Cheers. -- Alex^TW 11:17, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

My mistake - I didn't look close enough - the diff looked like joke titles replacing the real info. Cheers for the heads up. Reverted my revert. Dresken (talk) 11:50, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Continuum season articles

I don't know why you've done it but you're replacing valid images in Continuum season articles with invalid images. Did you realise that? --AussieLegend (✉) 07:42, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes. I'm still in the middle of reformatting them. Give me a bit. -- Alex^TW 07:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind, you "restored" them before you gave me a change to explain what I was doing. Done anyways. -- Alex^TW 07:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Drmargi

Why did you remove my warning and cite a template claiming I am a troll? I am legitimately concerned about Drmargi's OWNership of that article, and as such, I consider it appropriate to warn her about OWNership. pbp 21:41, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:DTTR. -- Alex^TW 21:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

That's not policy, tho. It doesn't justify removing another editor's comments, and it certainly doesn't justify throwing around a policy meant for trolls and vandals. I believe you edit was inappropriate. I have replaced the template with a non-template warning. I would urge you to read the warning. It explains why I believe Drmargi exerts ownership of the article. pbp 21:48, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

You actually started a discussion, instead of templating an experienced editor. Good job! -- Alex^TW 07:19, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Alex, thanks for the helping hand this morning, and I'm sorry you have to be subjected to the blowback from it. You are more than welcome to remove any content from my talk page you feel is inappropriate. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 09:14, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

• @Drmargi: @AlexTheWhovian: I think both of you are ABFing toward me too much. I think to say it's inappropriate to template someone is a bit much (remember that Wikipedia:Do template the regulars is as much policy as Don't Template the Regulars is). It's definitely inappropriate to call legit concerns about article ownership a "tantrum", as Drmargi did on her page. I also think that discussions can legitimately be started with warning templates, and to sarcastically say that they can't is overreach. pbp 17:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Your opinion has been noted. Cheers. -- Alex^TW 02:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

The Crown

Heads up! The first promo for the second season just dropped, and the release date is December 8. Let the fun and games begin!! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 16:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Seen the trailer, looking forward to it! -- Alex^TW 16:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Very exciting, and just as I start fall final exams, so I'll have to be patient for about 10 days. But what a reward!! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 16:52, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Three weeks after final exams finish for me, and into summer break! -- Alex^TW 16:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

SpongeBob SquarePants (season 4)

Hi AlexTheWhovian, the colour isn't compliant, no compliant colour really suits the DVD art.--Theo Mandela (talk) 04:01, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Westworld

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I am not making "unconstructive" edits, I am eliminating incorrect information. The character of Bernard is NOT a host. Whoever keeps insisting on adding that piece of incorrect information is the person with nonconstructive input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FP2C (talk • contribs) 06:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

@FP2C: Firstly, you have been reverted by three separate editors. You are not in the position to be declaring that other editors do anything, or to reinstate the content. Secondly, when posting on my talk page, you will sign your comments with ~~~~. And thirdly, he actually is a host - I recommend that you actually watch the whole season. You did, after all, put a spoiler warning in the section some time ago. -- Alex^TW 06:57, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

I have watched it completely and, seeing as he doesn't interact with guests and works behind the scenes, he is not a "host". Being a free and open encyclopedia, I have much a right to correct misinformation as anyone else.

Except when you're being reverted by multiple editors, in which case, it is common sense for you to realize that something is wrong. And again: when posting on my talk page, you will sign your comments with ~~~~. -- Alex^TW 07:05, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

For The American Gods TV Show Executive Producer Section. (I know it's pointless. lol)

The reason I changed some of the executive producer part of the page is because, Thom Beers is not an executive producer on the show, Adam Kane (episodes 3-8) and David Slade has been credited as executive producers of the show, look at the opening credits and the IMDB page. But I should've left the note saying that I changed some of the part.....sorry about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MathenGan (talk • contribs) 02:54, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

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Westworld Request for Comment

FYI, I have opened a RfC for Westworld since consensus was unable to be reached. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 11:42, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Comment on content, not on the contributor

Comments such as the end of this one or this edit summary seem needlessly inflammatory. If you believe there are issues of editor conduct that need to be addressed, surely you know of better venues to deal with them than the middle of an RfC about content. Huon (talk) 20:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Season 4 reversion

While I recognize that I made a small edit, it was correct. "Led" is the past tense of the verb "to lead." "Lead", pronounced the same way, is a metallic element. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.105.248 (talk) 07:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Lead (short-e) is an acceptable past-tense form of lead (long-e). -- Alex^TW 07:16, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to disagree with you, but that information is inaccurate. You needn't take my word for it, though: http://www.write.com/writing-guides/general-writing/word-choice/lead-versus-led/ 50.47.105.248 (talk) 07:22, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

One site won't support the mass changes you've made to multiple articles, which would indicate a consensus of some kind. -- Alex^TW 07:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you suggesting, sir, that your decision-making process alone qualifies as "consensus" of any kind on Wikipedia? If so, kindly inform me how many writing guides, dictionaries, and grammar-related sites I am required to track down and quote here until "consensus" on this subject is achieved in your eyes. 50.47.105.248 (talk) 03:05, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

When I say that it "would indicate a consensus of some kind", it means the usage of led over lead. Given how many times it's been used, I'd say that it's a valid usage. If you disagree, please take the discussion to some village pump, rather than my singular talk page. Cheers. -- Alex^TW 09:43, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

I shall continue to edit Wikipedia articles to make them more useful and accurate. You may do as you wish. Good day. 50.47.105.248 (talk) 16:40, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Strike (2017)

Aussie, are you paying any attention to the article for the British/American series Strike? I think the first episode runs in the UK pretty soon. We've got a French IP adding everyone and his cousin to the cast to the article, and a British IP adding whatever and sundry cast from the IMDB article, which is a mess. It won't start on HBO until later this year, and I'm not finding a lot of information about who's main v. recurring v. guest, so I've stripped the cast back down to the three I can source. It needs another set of eyes to keep the garbage out until we can better source the cast, if you've a mind to take a peek. Once it hits HBO, I'm sure a couple of the other regulars will hop to and get it in shape, but for now, what a mess!! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 03:56, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I can't say I am following it, but with JKR's name on it, I think I might take a look into it. I've requested page protection to cease the edits by the IPs, and I'll add it to my watchlist to keep an eye on it! -- Alex^TW 04:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

It's fairly well cleaned up at the moment, so the issue is keeping it that way. The first episode in the UK is August 27. Looks good, BTW!! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 04:14, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll look up the trailer later day and take a look. August 27 is also my big day for the return of Victoria! -- Alex^TW 04:18, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, is it? We don't get it until January. However, we get Poldark on October 1, so I'm ready for that. The Strike trailer on the BBC website looks interesting. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 06:16, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

DVD cover

Hi AlexTheWhovian, on this season cover, [4], what colour would you use for a TV season infobox please?--Theo Mandela (talk) 19:07, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Theo Mandela:  #B3C1CF  -- Alex^TW 12:32, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

GoT infobox changes

Alex, would you mind looking at [5] and seeing if those infobox changes make sense? I see some information being deleted, but I am not sure if this is something that is necessary or appropriate--It looks like a mixed bag to me, and I don't want to jump down some newbie's throat if he's actually making things better. Thanks, Jclemens (talk) 21:23, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Some of them (if not all, I haven't checked) are disruptive. For example, see this edit. They removed the episode title, series title, and episode number. Yes, they corrected the run time, but other editors shouldn't need to come in and clean up their mess. -- Alex^TW 12:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Requested closure review

Hey Alex, i saw you are interested in having an admin review the closure of the Westworld RfC. You can see the request i have submitted at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Requesting closure review. -- Radiphus 12:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Radiphus: Well. That revert was quick! I didn't even realize that it had been closed by the editor who opened the RFC. -- Alex^TW 13:00, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

The Tick (2016 TV series)-related

I am letting you know that I listed the guest stars for The Tick because how most of the episode guides tend to list the guest stars. We have not seen any supporting or recurring guest stars to split them into their own sub-section of the cast list. I'm just letting you know this. --Rtkat3 (talk) 16:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Actually, "most" episode guide list guest cast under the Cast section, rather than the unrelated Episodes section, as these are the instructions given by the MOS and the consensus as held by the Television WikiProject. -- Alex^TW 16:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Thirteenth Doctor

On 31 August 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thirteenth Doctor, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Thirteenth Doctor, to be portrayed by Jodie Whittaker, will be the first female incarnation of the Doctor in the continuity of Doctor Who? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thirteenth Doctor. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Thirteenth Doctor), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

TWD s8 poster

Hi User:AlexTheWhovian, do you know what the compliant colour of Shiva the tiger's fur is on The Walking Dead season 8 poster please? (here [6])?--2A02:C7D:892B:3D00:D4B0:3C8C:6579:18B6 (talk) 22:11, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Try  #AC946A . -- Alex^TW 02:54, 5 September 2017 (UTC)