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November 2008
Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page The Bill worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 19:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
{{helpme}}
can you put new articles into pages that are currently redirect pages? I'm wanting to create an article for Fearnville but I'm not sure about the rules about deleting redirects
Yes, no problem, be WP:BOLD and post your article. The redirect will still be there in the history if it should be necessary to revert. JohnCD (talk) 11:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Images
{{helpme}}
can I use a screenshot of a location from google maps which I have outlined a specific area on the image?
I'll leave the "helpme" for more opinions, but Google Maps carries a copyright sign, so I think the answer is almost certainly no. If you don't get a definitive answer here, try posting at WP:Media copyright questions. JohnCD (talk) 11:14, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
John is correct. Per the GMaps terms of use, you are not allowed to distribute the images without explicit permission by Google. The only way to use them here would be under our policy for non-free content but I'm almost certain that it fails WP:NFCC#1. Regards SoWhy 11:48, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
David Bieber
Tom,
I'm very familiar with the area myself - I used to live in Belle Vue Avenue, just on the other side of Easterly Road from the shops. Looking at the video, though, you're absolutely right, and the car was parked more in Grange Park Avenue than in front of the shops. I think the best we can do is used this and this to support the location as the junction of Grange Park Avenue and Dib Lane, coupled with mention of Bieber going into the post office. Of course, there is nothing to stop you taking a picture of the scene from the reverse angle of the police video, i.e from the other side of Dib Lane, showing the turn-off to Grange Park avenue on the left, and the Post Office on the right. Nick Cooper (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Fearnville photographs
I have a few of Fearnville that I took in December, unfortunately the sun conspired against me so I couldn't get some of the photograohs I would have liked. I shall put together a category. Cheers, Mtaylor848 (talk) 10:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Wikimedia Commons has media related to Fearnville.
Article writing help
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I've been creating an article about Fearnville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tomdresser27/Fearnville) and I was wondering if there is a way to ask other wikipedia editors to check whether there are any problems with the article, or if there is anything that could be added/changed in it before I add it to wikipedia as an article as I am new to creating articles and I am unsure whether my article will meet the rules of wikipedia about articles.
While you might want to begin at Wikipedia:NCHD for help with this, I have taken a look at your article and it seems to be ready to move to the main namespace. You should use the References heading instead of Notes. Otherwise, it's a pretty good start. -- Matthew Glennon (T/C\D) 16:38, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
One more note, the reference to bowlsclub is a primary source. You need to find news articles or other scollarly references to back up your information instead of this site. See WP:PRIMARY -- Matthew Glennon (T/C\D) 16:40, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Vandalism
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Hi
I saw some vandalism on The Last Song (film), which was reverted by another user before I could, but the two people who caused the vandalism, LOLGENERATOR and Butterfingers14 have both only edited the one article, and after finding out the extent of sockpuppeting when I was suspected of sockpuppeting, I was wondering if anything can be done to check about them. I would add templates myself if I could find them, but I'm thinking it's an administrator thing only to investigate sockpuppets?
You may open a SPI, but if they are obvious regular vandal sockpuppets, just report them to AIV or something. —fetch·comms 19:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
User pages in mainspace
It's less WP:BITEy to move trivial autobiographies to userspace and notify the user with {{nn-userfy}} than to tag them for A7. People like Bhujel(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log) are perhaps trying to create articles on themselves but my xperience is that they are less likely to re-create them if the page is userfied. Guy (Help!) 18:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
Jimmy's
Hi and thanks for the message. The anon user had two different (but pretty similar and from the same ISP) IP addresses, and has not contributed anything else to WP (unless from yet another similar Welsh IP address) so doing the template thing for both would probably be a bit over the top at present, but we'll all (inc PamD, who's added another handy ref) be keeping an eye open, I hope. FWIW, I lived in Leeds for 33 years, and one of my colleagues whose wife worked at SJUH invariably referred to it as "Jimmy's". Best. --GuillaumeTell 23:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
I just hope we can deter the anon from constantly changing it. Hopefully he/she will see the refs and stop removing it, or we might need semi protection added for a while to make them bored of waiting and hopefully leave it. I've known St James called Jimmy's by both my Grandad and my Mum who both worked there, and it seems the common name for it around Fearnville/Roundhay area. Tomdresser27 (talk) 07:07, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Girish komaragunta, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect to an article talk page, image description page, image talk page, mediawiki page, mediawiki talk page, category talk page, portal talk page, template talk page, help talk, user page, user talk or special page from the main/article space.
If you can fix the redirect to point to a mainspace page, please do so and remove the speedy deletion tag. However, please do not remove the speedy deletion tag unless you are fixing the redirect. If you think the redirect should be retained as is for some reason, you can request that administrators wait a while before deleting it. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your reasoning on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. DASHBot (talk) 00:00, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
New Article
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I have started creating an article for a uk holiday company, which has been operating for nearly 10 years, and I feel it should have a wikipedia article because it is notable in wales because of its owners work saving derelict properties from demolition. I've been creating it in one of my user pages so that I don't get deletion tags added to it whilst I am creating it. User:Tomd2712/Under The Thatch
I really don't see the question in your statement. Therefor let me say the things you've stated are reasonable and probably would have been the advice given you had you asked. Cheers. My76Strat (talk) 08:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, Tomd2712. You have new messages at Mikemoral's talk page. Message added 22:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
You are now a Reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, is currently undergoing a two-month trial scheduled to end 15 August 2010.
Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under pending changes. Pending changes is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages.
For the guideline on reviewing, see Wikipedia:Reviewing. Being granted reviewer rights doesn't change how you can edit articles even with pending changes. The general help page on pending changes can be found here, and the general policy for the trial can be found here.
If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. —DoRD (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Unregistered user MAGPIETRAP is believed to be A. J. Kirby engaged in self promotion in Wikipedia, or someone closely connected with him. I am not unsympathetic, but his notability has not yet been established, and the reference does not of itself establish his residence. Chemical Engineer (talk) 11:33, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh right, sorry about that. I just seem to recognise the name as being a well known name, so I thought I would create a notable residents section rather than it being in the amenities section the editor originally put it in. Tomd2712 | Tell me something? 13:04, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Pending changes
The trial period for Pending Changes is under way and will last for two months. Initially this will be restricted to a pre-defined set of articles that are updated on a daily basis. The queue of articles for the trial is here. This involves a change to the article settings, similar to article protection, that allows edits by anonymous and non-autoconfirmed users to be delayed before going live. (It is possible to set it so that all edits need reviewing but this is not been used for the trial.) These edits will only go live when they have been reviewed by another user who has been granted the Reviewer user rights. Pages with revisions waiting review can be found here. A large number of the regular editors have been granted this privilege for the trial and if not it can be requested here. It is a good idea to have a look at the pages that have this applied so that you are clued up for the discussion following the trial. Those of you with one of the selected articles on their watchlist will get a notification at the top of the watchlist page when there are pending changes to an article on their watchlist.
Once the trial is over there will be a discussion on rolling the system out generally or to reject this method of handing changes. If you want more details on this then take a look at the help document.
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I created the page Pudsey, Calderdale, and you found that there was no 2nd settlement called Pudsey whilest you were searching on google maps, so you merged the page with Pudsey. Please can you delete the page as it does not have any relevence to Pudsey.
And while you are there can you places also delete this group of other pages that I have created.
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To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
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To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
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Maps
This month I thought that I would focus on the current discussions over the maps used in infoboxes for UK articles.
Firstly an initiative by user Nilfanion (talk) is currently under way on producing map data for the whole of the UK. The maps would cover all counties, wards, civil parishes etc. and be derived from the Ordnance Survey OpenData release. Further details can be seen here where feedback would be appreciated on two specific concerns—the colour scheme and line thickness. Discussion is also taking place as to what features to include on the maps, such as rivers, roads and railways.
Second discussion here on another alternative for mapping data changes to existing maps in infoboxes for districts, boroughs and cities in the UK.
Thirdly a discussion on Wales maps in place infoboxes is under way here, which has branched out into a general discussion on the initiative by user Nilfanionhere.
It would be good if members take time to have a look at these various proposals and comment, where they feel they have some input to offer, as these proposals could potentially affect all of the UK articles with maps in their infoboxes. If you do not speak now then you will have to put up with the results!
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Hi! I've declined your {{db-g7}} request: as far as I can see the article was originally created by another editor, and G7 only applies where "the only substantial content to the page and to the associated talk page was added by its author". I've reverted to the redirect version. You might want to consider proposing deletion instead? TFOWR 09:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I have had to revert your edits to The Bill again.
The Bill is listed as a good article and it is not really desirable to have references put in the lead of good articles, or indeed really any articles. References should really go in the main body of the articles.
When ITV axed The Bill they did state that it would be August OR September in which it ended. They would have said that because in March, when they announced the axings, they would not know that they would not have to postpone one or two episodes of The Bill for whatever reason. However if you have a reference stating that they specifically gave 31st August as a date for when the series ended when they announced the axing, then please let me have the link for it. Providing that backs it up, I will then re-add it to the article for you.
However if ITV say August or September then Wikipedia has to say that as well. We cannot mis-quote ITV.
The rest of the information was removed because it is already stated elsewhere in the article.
Finally, I notice that your references didn't appear properly. If you need to know how to add references properly then please let me know and I will be only too happy to help you :) --5 albert square (talk) 19:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,254 last month to 8,334 on August 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 47 out of a total number of 2,218 articles.
Currently we have twenty one Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Updates
Last month I brought your attention to the proposals for changes to maps in articles and the newer maps have started to be deployed on some of the Scotland and Wales articles. The English ones will follow on though there has been comments on the loss of some features so this may be revised before mass deployment.
The trial for the pending changes implementation has ended and after discussion a straw poll is under way and now is the time to voice your opinion over the trial and if pending changes should continue to be used or if it should be abandoned.
A further batch of about 10,000 images from the Geograph project has been uploaded to Commons. If you are looking for an image then there may be one available on Commons you just have to search for it! Many of the images are incorrectly categorised at the moment but these are being rectified as they are spotted. If you have time then you can give a hand checking out the image categorisation.
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Ultimate Big Brother was won by a non-British citizen, IrishmanBrian Dowling. This should be noted in the opening paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.202.182.32 (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
It does not appear relevant to mention that brian Dowling is irish in the ultimate big brother page, it is mentioned on the brian dowling wikipedia article, so people will be able to find that out. Tomd2712 | Tell me something? 19:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Terry Newton
Hi, Tomd. I've taken out the date of Newton's death from the article, as I've not yet seen a source for the actual date of death. I hope this is OK with you! Cheers, matt (talk) 16:15, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I thought I'd put the reference on, but obviously the amount of people editing the article at the same time made something go wrong. I've updated it now. :) Tomd2712 | Tell me something? 17:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,334 last month to 8,468 on September 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 48 out of a total number of 2,228 articles.
Currently we have twenty one Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Wikipedia 0.8 release
Work is starting on preparing release 0.8 of the off line version of Wikipedia and the articles are in the selection stage. The initial selection has been done using some metrics about each of the articles. The number of projects that are interested in the article and the breadth of the individual projects. This is followed by the ratings of quality and importance that have been assigned to the article by each of the interested projects. There is also factored in what is termed the "External interest points" which is based on the number of hits the article gets, the number of unique internal links the article has and the number of inter-wiki links the article has. If you want more detail of the algorithm used then see here.
They have also selected a specific version of each of the articles that they consider is a stable version without vandalism using a version of the WikiTrust algorithm.
After all of this work they have come up with a selection of 116 articles that have been tagged as relevant to our project and these can be viewed here. We have a chance to influence this selection by reporting articles that people do not think are suitable or where an inappropriate version has been selected. It would also be a good idea to try and tidy up these articles before they get published if anyone has the time. Of the 116 the two articles that have been identified by tags as most needing attention are Asda and Rotherham. We have until October 11th to check out and report any problems or improved versions that need to be incorporated in to this release.
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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,468 last month to 8,621 on October 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 57 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 49 out of a total number of 2,266 articles.
Currently we have twenty two Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Dead links
This month I thought that I would concentrate on the problem of link rot in articles. Many of you will have spotted a BOT tagging references with the {{Dead link}} template. The template is added when the external link in a reference is detected as being inaccessible or is a redirect to the main page of the site. You should not remove references that are marked as dead unless you are replacing the reference with a new reference. The information in the reference may be useful to someone trying to locate a valid reference for the text. In order to help this process, when adding references in the first place, add as much detail as possible. It is easier to put in the detail while the reference is in front of you rather than waste someone else's time having to fill in the detail. If you want more detail then see Wikipedia:Link rot.
Many of the project's articles have been tagged in this way by the BOT and it would be useful if members could take a look at the tagged references, when visiting a page, and see if the problem can be resolved. May be the link is now active again in which case it is just a simple task of removing the template. May be an archived copy of the link can be located at the Wayback Machine, just add the link to the reference, if it is templated use the =archiveurl & =archivedate paramerters to record the new location of the link. If the site has been restructured then it may be possible to locate the same page used in the reference by following the links from the home page of the site. In this case replace the URL in the reference and remove the tag. Finally a replacement reference may need to be located if copies of the existing reference cannot be tracked down. If a new reference is used then the old reference and the tag can be removed.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The November 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page The Bill worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 19:12, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
