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The Wikipedia Signpost: 5 July 2010

July Metro

Simply south (talk) 19:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 12 July 2010

The Wikipedia Signpost: 19 July 2010

Talkback

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Could you elaborate on which discussions "it comes up" apart from deletion discussions? You are right but some examples would be useful. For myself, I don't see much difference between an entire article and part of an article, small or large, so I think many of the points made here are more widely valid; but to quote them the natural response would be "that's the deletion process, we're not discussing deleting the article", which is the kind of point of process that I think hurts editors attempting to improve the encyclopaedia. Full disclosure: I am an inclusionist. Si Trew (talk) 10:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Amalthea

Do you think he deserves the MOTD award/barnstar too? If yes, please add his username to the first list on my talk page. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 21:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Summer 2010 MOTD Barnstars

Consensus has been reached! Do you want to deliver all the awards (29 for the summer-season-reason (^___^) + 8 for the long time contributors) on behalf of MOTD? Many thanks in advance. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that was the reason why I am asking you to do it. Wait just few seconds an I'll copy the lists, the code, and all the rest here. BTW, the Stonehenge New Henge news was really interesting. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 17:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

The Lists

The message/motivation:

This award is given to you for helping out Motto of the day. Thanks to your effort, MOTD has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project!

Code (copy and paste at the bottom of a talk page):

== Summer 2010 MOTD Barnstar ==
{{subst:MOTD Barnstar|This award is given to you for helping out [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|Motto of the day]]. Thanks to your effort, [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|MOTD]] has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! <small>– delivered by [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] on behalf of '''[[Wikipedia:Motto of the day]]''' {{subst:CURRENTTIME}}, {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</small>}}



The message/motivation:

"This award is given to you for your long time and outstanding support to Motto of the day. We hope you will be back soon!"

Code (copy and paste at the bottom of a talk page):

== Award for long time and outstanding support to MOTD ==
{{subst:MOTD Barnstar|This award is given to you for your long time and outstanding support to [[Wikipedia:Motto of the day|Motto of the day]]. We hope you will be back soon! <small>– delivered by [[User:Simply south|Simply south]] on behalf of '''[[Wikipedia:Motto of the day]]''' {{subst:CURRENTTIME}}, {{subst:CURRENTDAY}} {{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{subst:CURRENTYEAR}} (UTC)</small>}}



And, this is for You....

Summer 2010 MOTD Barnstar

The MOTD Barnstar
This award is given to you for helping out Motto of the day. Thanks to your effort, MOTD has brilliantly and successfully passed the most difficult period of the year. In fact, there are mottoes scheduled until the end of the summer. For this reason MOTD would like to express heartfelt thanks to you for your support. We appreciate your efforts in further helping the project! – delivered by pjoef on behalf of Wikipedia:Motto of the day 18:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Motto Shop

Hi! It's Belugaboy. Thanks so much for the barnstar, I love creating mottoes, it's no problem! I've seen you around MOTD a lot, too, and I was wondering if you'd like to create a "Motto Shop" with me.

You're wondering, what the heck is a Motto Shop? Simple. The first motto I created was special to me, because it was actually scheduled. Attracted some negative feedback, but still, I made that my motto to live by on the wiki. So, I thought we could spread the joy of having a motto to live by around by creating mottoes for people based on what they want. Here's the cheese. I'll make a special link for us to put on our userpages to lead to the Motto Shop. People will be able to submit the base of the motto and what it has to say or express. So, whoever's page it's left on will be the person who creates the motto. And once we get up and running, you can recruit or I can recruit any new affiliations or members of our "team." Our goal, five mottoes a month. Sound good?

Let me know what you think of the idea!

Belugaboyhow's my driving? 22:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I am not sure it will work. You can copy the code of an approved motto when it is showed, and then show it on your user page whenever you want. For example, I use {{Motd cquote}} for showing the motto of the day, but I included that template on top of a list of phrases that I really love. Please, post your proposal(s) on the discussion page of the project so we can see what other participants thing on the subject. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Rascal the Peaceful

I'm sorry I gave you to do this task while you're busy with the editing of the page about the new henge discovered at Stonehenge, as well as in real life (of course.) I think that you will receive many thanks, I hope that in addition to a "nuisance" it will also please you. For any help, leave a message on my talk page. Yes, Rascal the Peaceful (a.k.a. Patches1998) both accounts have been blocked. I read something about, but I really do not know what to do. Thank you for taking the time to post all those barnstars. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 07:22, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

The Metropolitan

I meant to reply earlier. I will be happy to do the next edition. --DavidCane (talk) 20:09, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 26 July 2010

Note

I mentioned you in a blogpost here. If you don't want your name mentioned please tell me at my talk page, not here. Thanks Kayau Voting IS evil 06:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Some talkbacks

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Thanks

Thank you for the MOTD barnstar! I've seen you participating too. AirplaneProRadioChecklist 14:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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The Wikipedia Signpost: 2 August 2010

DYK for New henge at Stonehenge

The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

This month's Metro

You'll note that I've made some changes to the organisation of the newsletter, which should make it easier to update. Hope you like it. --DavidCane (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Signpost: 9 August 2010

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The Signpost: 23 August 2010

Christmas series

Sent to: Decision makers/archivists and WikiCopter.

Please, do NOT approve mottoes for the period from 25 December (2010) to 5 January 2011. I think we have enough time to discuss the Christmas series. Thanks & Best! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 08:39, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I think I was unclear (as always ~ lol). I do not mean the motto for January 1, which is more than okay and, if I remember correctly, received my support, but I am referring to regular mottoes. Today, I have approved a motto for the 22nd of December 2010 (which is just three days before Xmas). –pjoef (talk • contribs) 22:13, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 August 2010

The Festiniog Railway Company

I see you have just incorrectly retitled Festiniog Railway Company template to use the double F version. This is wrong.

Please see my note at Talk:Ffestiniog_Railway#Festiniog_v_Ffestiniog, or an expanded article at [1]]

In other words, the F Co, is the legit name, whilst the Ff company is the trading name for the line only from Porthmadog to Blaenau Ffestiniog

It was better to use the sigle F name as there is already a double F template relating to the Blaenau line operations

I am putting this note in as I do not seem to be able to undo your rename --Keith 17:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

You beat me Keith. Simply put, it is (nowadays) the Ffestiniog Railway, but the company uses a single F, and when it was running a letter service it was a single F. Please move these articles back. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and Keith, you wouldn't be able to, only admins can move over redirects. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to Matts note, I also checked the Railway letter service page - not quite the same reasoning. For this I refer you to [[2]] a temporary site setup to display items it publishes.

This means the file Festiniog Railway Letter Service was incorrectly renamed to use double Ff, and therfore needs to be restored to its correct title (the associated talk page as well) If you read the text of both the article and talk page, you will see it is not referred by the double F name --Keith 18:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

My mistake. It also says it on the railway website. Thanks for pointing it out.
Btw, what you've said about moving over redirects is slightly wrong. If the redirect has had no edits other than the one where it was created i.e. the page has 1 edit, pages should be able to be moved over. I don't know why you were not able to move the pages. It is only with more than one edit that requires RM. Also i am not an admin. Simply south (talk) 23:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
So much for my great knowledge. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
My thanks for restoring to the original name. I think a bit clearer explanation would be appreciated; that the original 19th century licence from (what is now) Royal Mail, was issued to the Festiniog Railway Co. (as per its official title). The Ff welsh name has only come into common use since the mid 1980's. It now promotes itself as the Ff, with all but official documentation. The company cannot change its name without an act of Parliament as it is one of the few remaining statuatiry companies (a legal term!). One of the support groups has renamed itself to Ff, whilst the Heritage Group, and the Railway Letter Service have retained the single F name - again thanks --Keith 03:31, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 September 2010

WP Trains in the Signpost

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Trains for a Signpost article to be published this month. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 19:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 September 2010

Henges

Hi Simply south, I'm sorry I totally missed your comment tucked between the Bugle and awards boxes on my page, not helped by my being on holiday. That is another interesting find, they keep popping up everywhere! There's been a lot of work at Marden recently (I see you've noticed that article too). Ranger Steve (talk) 08:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 September 2010

The Signpost: 27 September 2010

The Signpost: 4 October 2010

User:Simply south/Shhhhh!

I have nominated User:Simply south/Shhhhh! for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Amulet Heart/secret page. If you agree with deletion, feel free to tag this page for deletion with {{db-userreq}}. Best, Cunard (talk) 05:49, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

October Metro

Simply south (talk) 18:56, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 October 2010

Suggested changes at MOTD

Hello fellow motto contributor. Discussions arer still open on Wikipedia talk:Motto of the day/Nominations#Suggested changes and still require further input especially on ideas 10-17. Please could you voice your opinion as this is going to be closed in early November. Please help out or even make any new idea suggestions. Simply south (talk) 14:08, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I will do that as soon as possible. Thanks! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 16:25, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
I thought a good deadline would help with getting things back on track. Simply south (talk) 16:37, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
This is a last call. Any opinions should be suggested by and including November 5th. See Wikipedia talk:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 2#Suggested Changes Simply south (talk) 21:11, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

RDT

I hope you can enlighten me. Where did the "standard" for RDT at the end of every railway route map come from? I have just gone through a 25% sample of the diagrams in Category:Rail routemap templates and found very few with the RDT suffix. Even in the UK only a few currently have the RDT suffix. Are you sure this is going the right way?

To date the template has had the same name as the article, this is now changing - and there are now many articles going to require changing to remove the redirects.

--Stewart (talk | edits) 18:58, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, if you are moving the name of a template that includes BS-header, i.e. {{BS-header|North Wales Coast Line|North Wales Coast Line}}, could you also change the second name in the BS-header ({{BS-header|North Wales Coast Line|North Wales Coast Line RDT}}) otherwise the v-d-e links will point at the original template and not the moved one. Thanks. Scillystuff (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I've been creating route templates for over a year and only the minority of templates seemed to have 'RDT' on the end, I would have thought that getting rid of the RDT on all of them would be much easier for standardising. Also now we've got loads of maps which cause unimportant but needless redirects everytime you click on the v-d-e links. All I think this conversion is causing is confusion - we're trying to work out which diagrams have continuation arrows pointing the wrong way and the template names are changing. Thanks, WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 09:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

"Chesham Branch line"

What "other articles" is this move keeping it in line with? I've never heard it called anything other than "Chesham branch", and the b certainly shouldn't be capitalised. I can't think of any branch line with that "Branch line" formulation—moving it back for the moment

Re: Chesham Branch

Good catch. The earliest nominated would be used which is GeeJo, the other was about three days later. Thanks, I left a note at DYK.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 October 2010

Word association

Please comment at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 October 25#Wikipedia:Sandbox/Word Association/Ultra Game. Thryduulf (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Bathgate (E&BR) railway station

Why not the above title as the station was first opened by the E&BR (see my response to the comment in the talk page for Bathgate (New) --Stewart (talk | edits) 19:29, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 25 October 2010

The Signpost: 1 November 2010

Talkback

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2010 Colombia floods in ITN

Kslotte (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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December Metro

. Simply south (talk) 08:20, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

The original block on User:92.14.116.65

Thanks for reporting that IP. You wondered in your report if the correct block had been imposed; a 31 hour block looked appropriate to me. Remember it's an anonymous "contributor" and their IP address is a dynamic IP. This means that they can get a brand new IP address within a couple of minutes (possibly seconds) simply by rebooting their broadband router. That means they can carry on vandalising with their new IP address but leave the old one blocked, possibly denying access to a useful contributor who happens to be allocated the old IP address in future. So dynamic IPs tend to be blocked for as short a time as possible. 24h or 31h is usual for a first offence. Our vandal doesn't seem to have had the sense to get a new IP address though, or to stop behaving like a baby. (Hmmm. Stupid as well as disruptive...) so I've now reblocked them for a longer period (3 days). If they continue the block will simply get longer and longer - possibly a week next time, or maybe a month. Cheers, and thanks for the slice of cake. Tonywalton Talk 01:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 December 2010

East Hull

Can I query your move of East Hull to East Hull RFC? Should that have been East Hull RLFC for clarity and consistency with others? Keith D (talk) 17:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I have deleted the other page just to tidy things up. Keith D (talk) 19:41, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 December 2010

Kbthompson

Thanks for the edit, but I don't believe that Kb wanted his full name published on Wikipedia. I am going to consider it a privacy matter, unless his widow instructs me otherwise. I know that she was very concerned about releasing his birthdate. Best regards! -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 December 2010

The article Malvern Link railway station has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A search for references found two published (gBook) minor mentions of the station, fails WP:N and WP:STATION

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Jeepday (talk) 11:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 December 2010

Barts and the Barbican

Hi there. I'm a bit surprised by this - do you really feel there is a strong association there? I felt not, and the article doesn't mention the Barbican other than in passing in a footnote. I thought there was supposed to be more than this to acquire a category, and that the article was supposed to make it clear why the cat was there. I'm not actually ready to start a fist fight over this (it being Christmas and everything) but I'd be very interested to hear your thinking. Cheers, DBaK (talk) 01:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, and thanks very much. Have a good one - cheers, DBaK (talk) 23:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response...

... but thank you for the barnstar, it's much appreciated! Now I'll have to hunt through Iri's talk page archives to see why I deserved it! Best wishes for 2011, on and off Wikipedia. BencherliteTalk 10:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

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