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[edit]Hi SiberianCat, I got your friendly and informative message and question, thanks for stopping by. You are certainly welcome to edit the Settings in The Adventures of Tintin article in the manner you say. I'll even be glad to stop by the article later and make sure it looks OK. I do want to encourage you to edit Wikipedia, but along with editing that article, it would be best if you could locate a published article or book stating exactly what you told me, then cite that reference in your edit. Wikipedia is a collection of articles that are each based on verifiable sources, and are not based on original research. I thank you again for stopping by with your question; you are always welcome to contact me anytime! —Prhartcom (talk) 06:15, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Hi SiberianCat, I took at look at your edit, and it's even better than I expected it would be. You really nailed it; you researched a reference from a reliable source and properly cited that reference to back up the edit you made to the prose of the article. You even got the format of the cited reference correct. If you'd like, you can return and add the customary "date=" (date article was published by the author) and "accessdate=" (date you cited it) parameters. And just think, you removed inaccurate information some other editor had added who had not cited a reliable source and probably based it on original research, neither of which we want in Wikipedia. Would you like to go to the Flight 714 article next? Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 16:09, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]In this edit to Asterix and the Chieftain's Daughter, you removed a note with the edit summary "Deleted spurious, unsourced claim about "hinting at imminent death". Plenty of the Asterix books contain the prospect of death, such as the tax inspector in Switzerland, and every time a character is threatened with being sent to the circus."
In my opinion, this is different. There have been numerous occasions in Asterix comics with the prospect of death, as you say. However, this one is different, because it is hinted that the character really does die. In pretty much all of the other occasions, the character survives after all. JIP | Talk 12:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your message. First, I disagree with the notion that Asterix and Obelix All At Sea is "hinting at the imminent death" of Crustacius. Is he facing imminent death after having been transformed into stone for guzzling magic potion? Or is he already as good as dead because he is without any reasonable prospect of receiving Getafix's antidote? Or should we assume, as we have always been told, that the effects of the magic potion are temporary, so he will eventually return to normal after an indeterminate period of rocky suspended animation? How about Asterix and the Black Gold? We finish with Dubbelosix and Surreptitius smeared in honey and being chased by a massive swarm of bees in the Circus. Are we to assume they will outrun the bees? Or could they too be facing imminent death if stung by thousands of bees? Sure, this scene is played for laughs (rather than the more ominous image of Binjwatchflix being followed by a shark) but there is a prospect of imminent death. On page 24 of the same book, Asterix and Obelix attack and sink a Roman galley after bashing (and seemingly knocking unconscious) most of the crew. We then see only three members of the crew clinging to wreckage. What happened to the others? Did they somehow survive or are they likely to drown (or have they drowned)? In 'the Chieftain's Daughter' should we assume Binjwatchflix will be eaten by the shark? He's a wily survivor. It's common enough in fiction to show a villain apparently about to meet their end, only for them to return in a future installment (although recurring villains is not a major trope in the Asterix world, notwithstanding the hapless pirates). Toward the end of Chieftain's Daughter, Caesar says, "As for the tracker ..." which sheds no light on the fate of Binjwatchflix. Subtlety is definitely not the strong suit of Ferri and Conrad. The fact that Binjwatchflix says "And nothing can stop me" just before we see the shark, certainly suggests he could be killed, but I don't feel this is the "second" Asterix volume hinting at an imminent death. On another matter, Goscinny always had a modicum of comic pathos in his villains, making them human and ridiculous, whereas Binjwatchflix is monochrome evil (and has only one comic line -- a repeat of the running gag, "she's a bolter"). The absence of pathos and silliness is what makes him most different (in my opinion). SiberianCat (talk) 10:56, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Any description about the riots should go to the riot article. Mentioning "deadly" in a BLP can be considered inflammatory. How many deaths should happen for it to be called "deadly"? enjoyer|talk 00:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, @Enjoyer of World:, I disagree that stating a fact is inflammatory. Removing the word 'deadly' is tantamount to whitewashing. If someone loses a fair election, then claims the election was rigged and mobilizes the masses (whether directly or through proxies) to run riot and this results in deaths - why should this be censored from that person's biography? An encyclopedia should not censor the truth under the pretext of truth being inflammatory. That is what tyrants and dictators do. At least eight people died in those deadly riots. To answer your question more precisely, one death is sufficient for something to be described as deadly. Perhaps you feel the sentence should be changed to something along the lines of "riots in which people eight people died". SiberianCat (talk) 01:51, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- SiberianCat, current wording reads as if he is to blame for the death. "
should not censor the truth under the pretext of truth being inflammatory
", who decides what is "the truth" or not. We don't deal with truth, but verifiability. Like I said, any description and characteristics of the riot should go to the riot article itself, not this BLP. And don't accuse me of whitewashing, I don't know what that is. enjoyer|talk 02:21, 19 March 2021 (UTC)- @Enjoyer of World:, here's Wikipedia's explanation of whitewashing in the context of censorship (apparently sourced from Encyclopædia Britannica). I hope that clears things up. Also, here's Wikipedia's definition of hyperbole. You claimed in your edit (deleting the word 'deadly') explanation that a headline's hyperbole should not be brought into the text. I fail to see how describing riots in which multiple people died as 'deadly' is hyperbole. Could you please explain why it's hyperbole? As for truth in this case, the truth is that people were killed in those riots and those deaths have been verified. "As if he is to blame" are your words, not mine. SiberianCat (talk) 03:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- SiberianCat, you keep defending your points while failing to address the points I've made. Like why are you insist on emphasizing the "deadliness" of the riot on the lead of this BLP instead of the riot article itself. I argue this is WP:UNDUE. enjoyer|talk 08:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Enjoyer of World:, here's Wikipedia's explanation of whitewashing in the context of censorship (apparently sourced from Encyclopædia Britannica). I hope that clears things up. Also, here's Wikipedia's definition of hyperbole. You claimed in your edit (deleting the word 'deadly') explanation that a headline's hyperbole should not be brought into the text. I fail to see how describing riots in which multiple people died as 'deadly' is hyperbole. Could you please explain why it's hyperbole? As for truth in this case, the truth is that people were killed in those riots and those deaths have been verified. "As if he is to blame" are your words, not mine. SiberianCat (talk) 03:52, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- SiberianCat, I think you're exaggerating the
and mobilizes the masses (whether directly or through proxies)
. The riot isn't even mentioned in the article body of Prabowo Subianto, so yes this is WP:UNDUE. Removing the "deadly" term is not censorship. It is neutral. He doesn't control the level of violence in the riot. It should go to the riot article. enjoyer|talk 08:25, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- SiberianCat, current wording reads as if he is to blame for the death. "
- @Enjoyer of World:, rectified that and added to the article, thanks. SiberianCat (talk) 09:43, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, sorry if this is rude for requesting such a thing. But i've seen that you contributed significantly to article Muhammad Rizieq Shihab. Since im not contributing significantly to the article, it is discouraged for me to nominate it into GAN. But i think the article might have chance to pass. Would you like to nominate it? If you need assistance to improve the article, i'd like to help too as many as I could. Thanks Nyanardsan (talk) 04:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hello, @Nyanardsan:. I think the article requires significant improvement before it can be deemed good or worthy of nomination. The 'Legal cases' and 'Views' sections need much improvement. Parts of the article seem to be added by Rizieq fans, and parts by his opponents. Presently, I have neither the time nor inclination to make necessary improvements, but might be keener once there is a verdict in his current trial. SiberianCat (talk) 10:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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- Hello @Whiteguru:,
Thank you for informing me of the tag placed on Asterix and the Griffin.
You state there are "two reviews" as references. Your confusingly worded explanation (Why end a sentence with a question mark if you're not asking a question? Why is there a comma after 'else'?) suggests the "reviews" came from comics and therefore lack reliability. First, they're not reviews. A forthcoming comic, of which preview copies have not yet been released, cannot be reviewed. Second, the two non-primary references are not comics or comic books. The two references in question are online news items, announcing details of the forthcoming book in the Asterix series.
The first reference is Bleeding Cool. It is not a comic. It is an online news site, focused on comics, TV, film and games. Owned by Avatar Press, Bleeding Cool was launched on 27 March 2009. Avatar Press also publishes an associated magazine, Bleeding Cool. Google News displays articles from Bleeding Cool. It is a reliable news source regarding comics and related popular culture.
The second source is Multiversity Comics. Also founded in 2009 and also featured on Google News, it is an online news site dedicated to comics and features daily news, interviews, reviews and editorials.
I have no problem with a tag requesting additional references - and I have added four more references and deleted the tag; however, I don't feel that news items from news websites focused on popular culture and comics should be inaccurately described as "reviews" from "comics" and deemed deficient in reliability. I appreciate that page reviewers may act in haste due to heavy workloads, but confusingly worded explanations will not entice editors to stay at Wikipedia.
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It's great that you are making helpful edits - one word at a time in this case. Is it possible, though, to make them without being quite so snarky as you did here?
misusing the word 'purposefully' (the correct word in this context is 'purposely' or 'deliberately' or 'intentionally') for months undermines the credence this page, in my opinion. Sloppy writing doesn't generate credibility
I am betting that there was no intention to be sloppy.–CaroleHenson (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @CaroleHenson:
Thanks for praising me for making edits. Such praise is exceedingly rare and gratefully appreciated, even if it's a politely prefatory buffer to criticism. I agree with your bet that there was no intention to be sloppy. In my limited lexicon, "snarky" suggests sarcastic mocking or irritability. There was neither sarcastic mocking nor irritability in my clumsy Edit Summary (I unwittingly omitted the preposition 'of'). I had just read through the Talk Page of Investigations into Covid Origins and the Talk Page of Covid Misinformation, digesting the debate in which some editors derisively dismissed the Wuhan lab leak scenario as pseudoscience and misinformation, despite assertions from some reputable scientists that the scenario merits further investigation. Considering that substantial time and energy had gone into debating and edit-warring over the issue, I found it interesting that the editors had not corrected the long-term misuse of "purposefully" in the lead (or does Wikipedia prefer 'lede'?) of the Misinformation page. I didn't single anyone out for criticism, nor did I suggest the sloppy writing was intentional. I'll reiterate that sloppy word choice and failure to notice/correct mistakes don't inspire credence in an article built on intense debate between people purporting to speak from the pulpit of scientific high ground. I'll endeavor to refrain from Edit Summary explanations that might be construed as "snarky". Thanks again for taking the time to give some praise. SiberianCat (talk) 06:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
- Gotcha. You're exactly the kind of editor that is needed here, someone who can fine-tune articles. Thank you for your thoughtful response.–CaroleHenson (talk) 06:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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