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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,063 last month to 8,082 on April 29th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 55 is just behind WP:GM who have 56. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,161 articles.
Currently we have eighteen Yorkshire featured articles:
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Bramhope Tunnel promoted to GA following review on April 2nd Tickle Cock Bridge was nominated, reviewed and promoted to GA on April 3rd Cottingley Fairies was nominated, reviewed and promoted to GA on April 27th
Member News
There are now 75 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the April newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Elections
The next General Election will take place this month as will the local elections in a number of areas in the region and so again this month we need to concentrate our efforts on the articles relating to these.
Last month I concentrated on the general election related articles in the run up to the announcement of the election. This month we need to concentrate on the aftermath of the election. The constituency articles are the first ones that need to be looked at and the results added to each of these. This gives us an opportunity to have some references on these pages as there will be extensive media coverage for the results. The articles relating to the set of new MPs will need to be updated to include details of their election victory and the office they take up in the new parliamentary session. At the same time those articles relating to politicians who loose their seat will need to be updated to cover this and to show the successor to the seat/office they held. Other articles that need to be looked at are the settlement articles to see if they need updating as a number of them mention the party that represent the place and some give details of the MPs that represent them.
As well as the general election there is also the local elections that are being held on the same day and again this needs to be looked at when updating the settlement articles as the council make up is often described in the governance section or given in the infobox. These elections will necessitate new articles creating for each of the councils that are holding elections to record the details of the election and the results. Others may generate these articles and members should tag these with the project tag {{WikiProject Yorkshire}} when they find them so that they can be tracked and are not forgotten about.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The April 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,082 last month to 8,202 on May 28th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 54 is just behind WP:GM who have 58. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 43 out of a total number of 2,182 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Images
As a change from all the election related material this month I thought that we could look at images. With summer on its way in England then it is time to spend away from the computer and in the great outdoors. There are many events and places to visit so if you are taking time out at any of these then take along your camera and capture the scene. Then when back home you can upload the images to Commons so that they can be used on any of the projects run by the foundation. This is preferred to uploading just to Wikipedia as they are more widely available to other projects and save time of people having to make the transfer of suitable images. When uploading images to Commons then you need to categorise the image to enable it to be located easily and to group it with others of a similar theme. It is best to put it in a specific category, but if you cannot find one then pick the best fit you can and others will shift it around into more suitable categories. The process is similar to article categorisation and multiple categories can be added, as appropriate, but an image should not normally be placed in a category and one of it's sub-categories.
There are a number of articles requiring images and the Yorkshire related ones can be found here. Take a look before you go out as you may be able to fulfil one of the requests while out visiting.
If you locate an article that requires an image and no suitable image is available then add the {{reqphoto}} template to the article talk page to flag the article appropriately. If you want an image of a specific thing then you can use the of= parameter to give details. For example, if an interior shot is required of the building that is the subject of the article then use {{reqphoto|of=interior}}. You can narrow the image to a location by using the in= parameter, {{reqphoto|in=Yorkshire}} will request a photo in Yorkshire. If you use North Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire or the East Riding of Yorkshire in place of Yorkshire then it will categorise in the appropriate sub-category but will not show up in the request box. A way round this is to apply Yorkshire and the division to the request and they will show up but remain unlinked. So to a request an image in the East Riding of Yorkshire it may be best to use {{reqphoto|in=Yorkshire|in2=the East Riding of Yorkshire}} to show in the request box and classify it in both Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Yorkshire and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the East Riding of Yorkshire.
For biographical articles the biography project template {{WPBiography}} has a needs-photo= parameter which should be set to yes if a photograph is required.
When adding an image to an article also check the talk page and remove the flags if the image fulfils the request.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The June 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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I am trying to understand why you have this file up for deletion
You stated,"Fair use rationale is not correct. Resolution is too high. As the person is living it is likely that a replacement could be found." Yes an picture like this could be found but all of these pictures has the copyright tag on the picture. (Trust Me) I know :)
Also it was my very first time putting up a picture on this Site...so if you think it needs something else, I just tell me and I could provide anything...because I am a direct link to Protect Ya Neck Records, and Silkski (Jerome Evans). Thanks.--L. E. Evans 07:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC)--L. E. Evans 07:49, 24 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondthadimepiece (talk • contribs)
Wikipedia fair use policies are very restrictive. Part of the restriction is based on whether an alternative could be found, which is "free" (i.e. not subject to copyright restrictions). For someone who is still alive there is a very reasonable chance that a free image could be found, so fair use images are generally not acceptable. If the copyright owner wishes to, they can decide to donate the image to wikipedia. To do so you would need to use WP:OTRS. However, if this was done, the image would then be freely available to anyone who wanted to use it for any purpose.
Please also bear in mind that if you have close links with this person or their management, you may have a conflict of interest. Please read WP:COI for more info on how to edit if that is the case. Quantpole (talk) 07:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
In this case, what would be the more appropriate rationale for this picture? It could be found on other sites free...and all of the pictures like this found has the copyright tag on the picture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondthadimepiece (talk • contribs) 08:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately I don't think there would be an appropriate rationale for this picture, unless whoever holds the copyright relinquishes that right, and the copyright tags are removed. Generally speaking, images of people are not acceptable for fair use, unless there is something in particular about that image, and the article has critical commentary on the image, for example [1]. See Wikipedia:NFC#UULP, where it explains this. Quantpole (talk) 09:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Silkski
Ok...I just have a question. I am trying to understand. Maybe after all of this clears up, I will be able to rewrite the article a little better. You say that what I have written from Scene magazine was a promising source. I know other sites of magazines and write ups where Silkski is, which could be good sources too, but how do I imply those write ups with out plagiarizing. I know that I could only copy and cite so much. Maybe later after the 7 day period is over, if you like, you could help me rewrite it (The biography potion of it). I could provide the sources...Magazine Articles and News paper links. He have also done much more music, but I did not have the time to put everything up yet. I know that everyting that has to do with the music portion must be verifiable. This was my first complete article that I have written, which is why I am fighting to keep it up. I worked soooooooo hard. He has done sooo much, and it seems to be scattered all over the place on the internet, which is why I created the article to put things together and make it easier for people to find links to what he has done. I love Wikipedia, and like you I am always on it looking at everything. I want to create other articles too, but I chose Silkski first because I know that I could find a lot of sources on him to help create the article. The next article I hope to write is Rhyme Syndicate. I can not believe that they are not on here...and yet they are sooo popular, and legends within hip hop. Anyway here is an example of a write up with Silkski. How would I be able to import info from it? Do I just take portion of what is said...along with my own words? How much of it could I use and cite? I have so many other sources too that talks about him.
http://www.hiphop-elements.com/article/read/4/6423/1/
09:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)L. E. Evans —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diamondthadimepiece (talk • contribs)
You shouldn't have to worry too much about putting the sources into the article right now. All you need to do for the deletion discussion is show that there are good independent sources available. Check out WP:RS for an idea of the sort of sources that would be good to get. One thing to be careful of is sifting the good sources from the not so good. The link you've given looks good on the surface but at the bottom it says the sources is "PRWeb", which means it is essentially a press release, and as such isn't that great as a source.
It is tricky to write articles without copying what they say too closely. The way I've been told to do it is to read all the sources first, and then write an article in your own words. If you try just adding bits from the different sources in turn it is hard to avoid plagiarism.
Hi Quantpole. I have unmerged this page from the Schlumberger article yesterday, and it seems you have reversed my changes again. I have told Cirt (who first deleted this article) that I wished to improve on it and solve neutrality concerns about it. Please give me some time to do so. I was an intern at Schlumberger Business Consulting for the past few months, and this entity is separate from Schlumberger, in terms of activity, sector, management etc. I think it should be in a separate article.
I'll undo your change and I'll start working on this article very soon, in order to make it better.
This article was redirected to the parent company as per this discussion. If you think that the article would be better served separately then you shouldn't really just undo the result of the previous discussion. If you want to read up more about whether it is a good idea to have a separate article then I suggest you read pages such as WP:AVOIDSPLIT, WP:SPLIT, WP:MERGE. It would also be helpful to write a userspace draft, to demonstrate that a separate article can be written on the subject. This could later be moved over into the main article space.
I've rewritten the article on Schlumberger Business Consulting, and posted it on the "Ask for feedback" page. If you want to have a look at the article and comment on it, I would be grateful.
Here is the link to the userspace draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Axblt58/SBC.
Thanks for your help,
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,202 last month to 8,225 on June 21st). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 54 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,193 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Pending changes
The trial period for Pending Changes is under way and will last for two months. Initially this will be restricted to a pre-defined set of articles that are updated on a daily basis. The queue of articles for the trial is here. This involves a change to the article settings, similar to article protection, that allows edits by anonymous and non-autoconfirmed users to be delayed before going live. (It is possible to set it so that all edits need reviewing but this is not been used for the trial.) These edits will only go live when they have been reviewed by another user who has been granted the Reviewer user rights. Pages with revisions waiting review can be found here. A large number of the regular editors have been granted this privilege for the trial and if not it can be requested here. It is a good idea to have a look at the pages that have this applied so that you are clued up for the discussion following the trial. Those of you with one of the selected articles on their watchlist will get a notification at the top of the watchlist page when there are pending changes to an article on their watchlist.
Once the trial is over there will be a discussion on rolling the system out generally or to reject this method of handing changes. If you want more details on this then take a look at the help document.
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The July 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
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Ok, now I read the reliable sources and understand perfectly.
But the mention in the External Links I think is correct, the article have a fansite listed here, and I think quality, porpoise and of the source is right, I mean the three meanings of the source. ¿This make sense? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.58.147.26 (talk) 20:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WP:YORKS has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 8,225 last month to 8,254 on July 28th). In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 56 is just behind WP:GM who have 59. WP:GM also has the lead in FAs at 44 out of a total number of 2,201 articles.
Currently we have twenty Yorkshire featured articles:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive (See this month's feature below)
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
and apropos of the above a 2010 New Year article improvement drive/collaboration is being organised.
Maps
This month I thought that I would focus on the current discussions over the maps used in infoboxes for UK articles.
Firstly an initiative by user Nilfanion (talk) is currently under way on producing map data for the whole of the UK. The maps would cover all counties, wards, civil parishes etc. and be derived from the Ordnance Survey OpenData release. Further details can be seen here where feedback would be appreciated on two specific concerns—the colour scheme and line thickness. Discussion is also taking place as to what features to include on the maps, such as rivers, roads and railways.
Second discussion here on another alternative for mapping data changes to existing maps in infoboxes for districts, boroughs and cities in the UK.
Thirdly a discussion on Wales maps in place infoboxes is under way here, which has branched out into a general discussion on the initiative by user Nilfanionhere.
It would be good if members take time to have a look at these various proposals and comment, where they feel they have some input to offer, as these proposals could potentially affect all of the UK articles with maps in their infoboxes. If you do not speak now then you will have to put up with the results!
WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project
The August 2010 articles selected below are the editors choice as no one came up with any other suggestions on the project talk page.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 23rd.
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Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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