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Nomination of Settlement cancer for deletion

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Moving of Hamas-Fatah conflict

By moving the Hamas-Fatah conflict, to Hamas-Fatah conflict (2007), you missed the fact that there is already a specific article Battle of Gaza (2007). Please refrain from such renames prior to a through discussion on the talk page.GreyShark (dibra) 08:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hello. I have reverted your edit on the article since it's out of process. The article has only been temporarily restored, for the duration of the deletion review, so that non-admins can see what it looked like, and look at the page history, not permanently restored. Which is why the previous content had been replaced by a template. Thomas.W talk 15:41, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Could you explain this edit?

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February 2016

Information icon Your recent edit to List of human rights organisations appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to lists. Thank you. Thomas.W talk 10:18, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

WP:LISTCOMPANY, Talk:List of human rights organisations#Organisations without a wiki article. Your intolerance is remarkable. Nothing useful to do? --Qualitatis (talk) 10:38, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Hello. According to Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Style the lead of the article should include the inclusion criteria. And the "standard option" for inclusion criteria (see WP:CSC) is "Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future. This standard prevents Wikipedia from becoming an indiscriminate list, and prevents individual lists from being too large to be useful to readers." (my emphasis). So please stop. Thomas.W talk 11:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
So, according to the not emphasized part, a red-linked entry is acceptable. --Qualitatis (talk) 11:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Only if you can provide reliable sources that clearly establish notability, which you haven't been able to do so far. The "threshold of notability" is as high for adding a red-linked entry to the list as it is for creating a stand-alone article, so red-links are only allowed for a short period of time, about equal to the time it takes to write an article. Which is why praxis here is to not accept red-linked entries in lists of this kind, and instead tell editors to write the article first, and then add the link (see WP:Write the article first). Thomas.W talk 11:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Your false axiom is that notability is objective, which is not. The clue is that "threshold of notability" is not as high. --Qualitatis (talk) 12:08, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia's standards for notability are as objective as they can reasonably be, and the reason the standards are as high as they are is that this is an encyclopaedia, with articles about subjects that verifiably already are notable, as reported in reliable sources independent of the subject, not a place for creating notability. What you have to do is get newspapers etc to write articles about your organisation (i.e. your organisation as such), and then use that to get an article here, you can't do it the other way around, i.e. use the "visibility" an article on the English language Wikipedia gets you to get articles about you and your cause in newspapers. Thomas.W talk 12:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Rami Hamdallah

Regarding this edit, Rami Hamdallah is described by official sites as Prime Minister of the State of Palestine e.g. this and this. Also, see the UN report "Status of Palestine in the United Nations - Report of the Secretary-General A/67/738 8 March 2013" and the reference to the previous Prime Minister Salam Fayyad a few months before Rami Hamdallah became the Prime Minister of the State of Palestine.

  • "3. On 12 December 2012, Palestine informed the Secretary-General that the designation “State of Palestine” should be used in all documents and for its nameplate in all United Nations meetings. It further informed the Secretary-General that the Head of State was Mahmoud Abbas, President of the State of Palestine. On 8 January 2013, Palestine informed the Secretary-General that the Head of Government was Salam Fayyad, Prime Minister of the State of Palestine, and that the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine was Riad Malki. In accordance with its request, the designation “State of Palestine” is now used in all documents of the United Nations and on nameplates to be used in United Nations meetings. Mr. Abbas is now addressed as the President of the State of Palestine, Mr. Fayyad as the Prime Minister of the State of Palestine and Mr. Malki as the Minister for Foreign Affairs of the State of Palestine." (my bolding)

This is just one of many UN documents that refer to the Prime Minister of the State of Palestine. Sean.hoyland - talk 17:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Correct, but you know very well that it is not that simple, and that Abbas operates in a legal vacuum. And you have undoubted noticed earlier discussions. Omitting it in the futile infobox and not change it into the opposite is certainly the most neutral way. --Qualitatis (talk) 09:47, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

How to do redirects

Hi, it appears that you tried to create a redirect at 1994 Cairo Agreement, but didn't do it correctly. The correct redirect syntax is:

#REDIRECT [[target page name]]

Good luck. — Smjg (talk) 22:32, 23 March 2016 (UTC)