User talk:Martin tamb/Archive 3

June 2010[edit]

Was trying to undo the vandalism on Brazil's page, idiot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.236 (talk) 16:07, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You think eveyone's a Wiki pro, idiot? I just clicked the undo button next to the first edit he made. How was I supposed to know I should have clicked one more step earlier!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.236 (talk) 16:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

User:IBen/TB —mono(how's my driving?) 04:06, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1966 NBA Expansion Draft FL[edit]

On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, thanks

This user helped promote 1966 NBA Expansion Draft to featured list status.

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1975 NBA Draft[edit]

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1976 NBA Draft[edit]

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— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kobe Bryant[edit]

Being named Player of the Decade is a major achievement. Its included on Michael Jordan's page. And all the pages should be noted the same. It does not vandalize the page. And it isn't necessary to remove it. Please discuss this this before removing it.ScottieAngelo (talk) 09:26, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for List of National Basketball Association head coaches with 400 games coached[edit]

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The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for List of National Basketball Association seasons[edit]

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Courcelles 12:02, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback granted[edit]

Hi Martin, since you are a trustworthy and experienced user, I've given you the ROLLBACK tool, which allows you to deal with vandalism and bad-faith edits more efficiently. Note that rollback should be used only for blatant vandalism (you may wish to read the linked guideline). If you have any questions, or would rather not have this tool, feel free to contact me. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 23:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Be sure to warn the vandals as well (these may be helpful). Dabomb87 (talk) 12:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Latavious Williams[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Latavious Williams at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:35, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1973 NBA Draft[edit]

I just sent it to FLC. Hopefully it will pass.—Chris!_c/t 01:39, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think NBA high school draftees is close to FL standard. What do you think?—Chris!_c/t 22:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, can you help deal with some comments at the 1973 NBA Draft FLC? I am very busy this week. Thanks—Chris!_c/t 19:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Latavious Williams[edit]

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— Rlevse • Talk • 00:04, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1977 NBA Draft[edit]

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The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1978 NBA Draft[edit]

Hello! Your submission of 1978 NBA Draft at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. Please see one more question on the talk page. Yoninah (talk) 19:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of foreign NBA players[edit]

I saw that you are rewriting List of foreign NBA players in your sandbox. That is a huge list, so if you need help, just let me know. Anyway, cheers.—Chris!_c/t 20:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's just something I experimented last weekend and it's gonna take a long time to finish. I just think that the article is in a poor shape and it would be nice if it could be improved. Do you have any suggestion on the table layout or the inclusion criteria or anything in general? Feel free to edit my sandbox, any help is appreciated. On a different subject, what do you think of this? Do you think this is good addition or excessive? — Martin tamb (talk) 04:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The general layout is good. It is very clear although it should be made clear that those born in US Virgin Island are US citizens; see "Virgin Islands". CIA World Factbook. under the government section. As for the addition for the draft articles, I like them as it shows which player never played in the league.—Chris!_c/t 19:04, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I added some. However, I noticed that there are possible errors on the original list. For example, Rick Fox is listed under Bahamas, but his article doesn't really verify that he had citizenship of that country.—Chris!_c/t 01:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly why I think the original list is in a very poor shape. A lot of unverified addition based only by the player's ancestry, such as Rick Fox. There are also some players who were only played in the Summer League or preseason listed there. I think introducing the table, reference, and adding draft and career information could give the reader general outlook on how successful an international player or a country in the NBA.

Cool. I will help you but I want to avoid editing your page as much as possible to reduce the chance of edit conflict.—Chris!_c/t 00:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing. How do we deal with players with dual citizenship? David Andersen is an example of such players.—Chris!_c/t 00:15, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think it could be explained in the notes. His nationality should show him as an Australian, because he represents them internationally. His Danish citizenship isn't that important because he will never represent them internationally. He probably obtained the Danish citizenship so that he could play in Europe with an EU passport and avoid working visa problem. The problem lies for a player who has not represent any country, such as Joakim Noah and Earl Watson, even though they have declared an intent to represent France and Mexico respectively. Should they be listed there? — Martin tamb (talk) 07:35, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe list them at a different section?—Chris!_c/t 18:34, 9 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that could work. By the way, I've decided to put the edit live on the mainspace, rather than doing it in the sandbox. Currently, each country has their own table, but when all countries are finished, we could easily merge the tables. This will reduce the chance of edit conflict and probably encourage some other editor to participate. — Martin tamb (talk) 15:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. I will start working. ~~For foreign players that haven't represent any country, I will not touch them until we figure out a way to include them.~~—Chris!_c/t 19:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh nevermind. I was thinking wrong. Foreign players who don't have dual citizenship should all be listed, but those who have dual citizenship should be listed under the country they represent.—Chris!_c/t 19:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(outdented) In most dual citizenship cases, it is quite easy to deal with. But for players who have dual citizenship but have not played internationally (e.g. Michael Olowokandi), it is very difficult to deal with. What should we do about them?—Chris!_c/t 23:40, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some research and it turns out that his father is a Nigerian diplomat who worked in London and he does not have British passport.[1] So, he should be listed under Nigeria. Another difficult case happens with Kelenna Azubuike. He was born in London to Nigerian parents but he is unable to obtain British passport.[2] He grew up in the United States and probably has U.S. citizenship, but I can't found any reliable source that mention this. For now, I've put him under Nigeria, though I'm not really sure whether he has Nigerian citizenship or not. — Martin tamb (talk) 17:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Almost done! Several sections are not yet finished because of the difficulty of verifying nationality. For example, many players listed under Germany appear to be born to American parents in Germany. However, I can’t really verify them. I guess the best thing to do with these players is to list them under a special section. What do you think? Also FYI, I just discover a page on Basketball-Reference that lists foreign players (see http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/birthplaces.cgi). I think this would be helpful in identifying foreign players missing from the list.—Chris!_c/t 23:06, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I will probably finish by the end of today. I will list players with dubious nationality on the article's talk page, so that we can discussed what to do with them.—Chris!_c/t 23:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply, I've been pretty busy in the last few days, but I'll be doing some work on the list this weekend. I've notice the basketball-reference page and it's been very useful. I've found two interesting lists of basketball players (some are not NBA players) nationalities here [3]. They can't be used as citation but they can be useful as guidelines for more research. I'll continue the discussion on the players on the article's talk page. — Martin tamb (talk) 16:30, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I encounter some problems when I try to organize Serbian players. Since Serbia was formerly a part of Yugoslavia and Serbia and Montenegro, it is unclear what countries some of these players actually played for. As usually, I will place them on the talk page, so we can talk about them.—Chris!_c/t 04:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it's really difficult to organize. Some players have represented more than one national team (see Alexander Volkov). Some players were also born on different place than his nationality (see Damir Markota). I'll dig into those former Soviet Union and SFR Yugoslavian players later, hopefully tonight. — Martin tamb (talk) 06:45, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, FIBA Europe website has all the player information. It's very useful for European players. — Martin tamb (talk) 10:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since it is impossible to reliably verify nationality of certain players, maybe it is best to just list them under their birth countries. What do you think?—Chris!_c/t 05:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. By the way, do you have any opinion on where Kelenna Azubuike should be listed? Right now I'm leaning towards listing him under Great Britain with the notes explaining that he could not represent Great Britain because he does not have British passport yet. Also, I couldn't verify whether he has Nigerian or U.S. citizenship. — Martin tamb (talk) 15:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, list him under Great Britain seems to be the best option right now. But I wonder if people born to Nigerian parents outside of the country have Nigerian citizenship or not. If we can verify that by looking at Nigeria nationality law, then we will be sure whether he has Nigerian citizenship.—Chris!_c/t 18:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A quick search reveals that anyone born to Nigerian citizens outside of the country have Nigerian citizenship through the parents.See here. So Azubuike has Nigerian citizenship.—Chris!_c/t 18:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) What do you think about adding a column for numbers of seasons or games played? One voter says he/she is willing to reconsider the keep vote if this is added to the main list.—Chris!_c/t 20:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Number of games played is not a good idea, we have the active and former players all in one table and I think it would be difficult to manage them. However, number of seasons played will be good addition to the list, complementing the active years in the NBA. — Martin tamb (talk) 04:02, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just come up with this idea. I think we should note instances where a player represent a different country previously. For example, Charlie Villanueva and Roy Hibbert previously represented US before representing Dominican Republic and Jamaica.—Chris!_c/t 03:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, that's a good piece of information. By the way, I added "at youth level" to make it clearer. Both Villanueva and Hibbert only represented US at youth level and FIBA rules prohibit a player switching national team once they play for a country's senior team. — MT (talk) 07:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1978 NBA Draft[edit]

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-- Cirt (talk) 18:02, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		You have contributed tirelessly on many NBA lists, especially those related to the draft. So I think you deserve some sort of recognition. Keep up your good work. Cheers —Chris!_c/t 19:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! You helped me a lot along the way. — Martin tamb (talk) 16:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1979 NBA Draft[edit]

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— Rlevse • Talk • 18:03, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Space Jam‎[edit]

Are you interested in improving this article? It was nominated for GA and failed. After reading the failed GA review, I feel that this article has potential. But I am not a good writer and obviously can't do it alone. That's why I asked you. Thanks—Chris!_c/t 18:24, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll help you with this. I never really work on a movie article, but this is really interesting. I loved this movie when I was a kid and I would love to see this became a GA. I'll try to start working on this tomorrow or in the next few days. — Martin tamb (talk) 18:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1980 NBA Draft[edit]

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-- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NBA Development League Draft infobox[edit]

Hi Martin- Could you do me a huge favor and create {{Infobox NBA Development League Draft}}? I would like it to look the exact same as {{Infobox NBA Draft}}, except with links (etc.) to the NBA Development League Drafts. As far as I know there were two NBADL Expansion Drafts – 2006 and 2009 – and the inaugural draft was in 2001. I've never once attempted coding before, and I gave it a shot a little while ago to no avail, so I'm deferring to the experts on this one.

I'm going to be making all of the NBADL Drafts, mirroring the NBA's pages, and would like for them to have their own version of the Draft Infobox. Thanks a ton! Jrcla2 (talk) 15:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really an expert on infobox, I think User:LOL and User:Chrishmt0423 are the experts on this. Anyway, I've created {{Infobox NBA Development League Draft}} just as you requested, based on {{Infobox NBA Draft}} that they've designed. It should work with the Expansion Drafts and the name change (NBDL became NBA Development League in 2005).

Also, the D-League Expansion Drafts were held every year since 2006. These are the links to those draft results:

2001 Draft
2001 Supplemental Draft
2002 Draft
2003 Draft
2004 Draft
2005 Draft
2006 Expansion Draft
2006 Draft
2007 Expansion Draft
2007 Draft
2008 Expansion Draft
2008 Draft
2009 Expansion Draft
2009 Draft
2010 Expansion Draft
2010 Draft

I've bookmarked these links because I've been planning to create those Draft articles as well. Hopefully these will help you on creating those articles. Let me know if you need any help or if there is any problem with the infobox. — Martin tamb (talk) 20:16, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thank you so much. You also answered my next question – where do I find the draft boards for every season. I see you and Chrishmt0423 have been getting all of the NBA Drafts up to snuff, so I'll be sure to let you both know when these NBA Development League Drafts go live. Jrcla2 (talk) 20:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am certainly not an expert on infoboxes or templates. But I consider User:LOL an expert since he knows the stuff real good. Anyway, if you guys need any help, just let me know.—Chris!_c/t 20:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More FLs![edit]

Hey, I think you should nominate some of your lists to FLC. So, the NBA project can have more FLs! List of National Basketball Association player-coaches for example seems to be a good candidate. I know you are busy, but I can help you monitor the lists. Anyway, happy editing.—Chris!_c/t 01:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, been quite busy this week, weekend should be better. Well, player-coaches list would be good for a FL, a nice change from Draft articles. Thanks for the push, I need that. — Martin tamb (talk) 04:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NBA D-League Awards[edit]

Just wanted to let you know that I've created {{NBA Development League Awards}}, so if you ever feel the need to create something new rather than work on FLCs (which can be draining), there haven't been any articles made yet for D-League Awards. I'm still busy with D-League Draft lists and I won't be getting to the awards for a while. Jrcla2 (talk) 16:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, it would be nice to have the awards complete. Anyway, I recently create the NBA Development League All-Star Game. It has the list of every D-League All-Stars, which could be useful for you when you work with those Draft articles. — Martin tamb (talk) 20:33, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out I needed to take a break from those lists (very tedious to make). I just made List of NBA Development League champions so that the template isn't all redlinks and therefore nobody can nominate it for deletion now. Jrcla2 (talk) 23:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for NBA Development League All-Star Game[edit]

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The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Account[edit]

Actually, you can use Unified Login to get a commons account. Simply go to My preferences and set it up. Once you do that, you can login to all Wikimedia Foundation project with a single account and password.—Chris!_c/t 07:40, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, I did not know that. One click and now I have global account. Thanks for the tips! Anyway the file rename is done and I've inserted it to Williams' article. — MT (talk) 07:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 1981 NBA Draft[edit]

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Courcelles 00:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Reid[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Ryan Reid at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! -- Lear's Fool 15:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ryan Reid[edit]

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Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cancelled trade[edit]

Oh yeah! I remember that. I'll add it soon. Zagalejo^^^ 05:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]