User talk:Hout Ly

June 2020

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Dear Mr RickinBaltimore,

This is the official Wikipedia account of the Cambodia National Chess Federation and we would like request to Wikipedia to unblock our account.

Hout Ly, Cambodia Chess Federation Cambodia Chess Federation (talk) 01:36, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the block notice above. It says that "A username should not be promotional, appear to represent a "real-world" group or organization, misleading, offensive or disruptive." Your username is promotional and implies shared use. If you would like to be unblocked, appeal this block by adding {{unblock|Your reason here}} below this notice, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 01:46, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikipedia,

If I cannot use this name can I rename it “Hout Ly” which is my name. I am the president of the Cambodia Chess Federation. I don’t know much about Wikipedia. Can you please help?

Hout Ly, President Cambodia Chess Federation 117.20.116.115 (talk) 02:56, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you may, just don't edit in areas where you have a conflict of interest. Try submitting a request at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:20, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RickInBaltimore: now that the user has been renamed, could you unblock? ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 03:26, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I mean @RickInBaltimore:. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 03:27, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nono, I mean @RickinBaltimore: ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 03:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I’m the President of the Cambodia Chess Federation. The Cambodia Sports Ministry wants me to write 2 articles. One is for the CCF and one for our champion Ly Kimlong. Hout Ly (talk) 09:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hout, as you have a conflict of interest on these topics, you MUST disclose this on your talk page here. I will unblock you, however you MUST submit the articles you are looking to create through the articles for creation process per our guidelines here. RickinBaltimore (talk) 11:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ly Kimlong (Chess Player) (June 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails WP:ANYBIO, lacks any sources or references.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Ly Kimlong (Chess Player) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Ly Kimlong (Chess Player), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Dan arndt (talk) 05:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hout Ly! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 05:03, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Ly Kimlong for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ly Kimlong is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ly Kimlong until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Majun e Baqi (talk) 06:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So apparently I can’t create any pages for famous Cambodian! Is this considered to be racist? Hout Ly (talk) 07:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to contact the ministry of education, youth and sport of cambodia. They want me to write articles about all famous cambodia national champion. I’m starting with this chess prodigy then I will move on to the old champions Hout Ly (talk) 10:17, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But if Wikipedia is unhappy with my articles I can’t do anything but to accept it. There are many cambodian athletes that the world need to know Hout Ly (talk) 10:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone tell me how we can get our athletes list on Wikipedia? Hout Ly (talk) 10:24, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you search for cambodian athletes you will see very little people. Why? Because most of them don’t have a page. Many Footballers, Volleyball players, Taekwondo Practicers and other sport athletes dont have a page even though they’re our national icon and compete at international stages. Hout Ly (talk) 10:26, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

July 2020

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Ly Kimlong. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬 09:27, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I’m so sorry that I delete the notice. Hout Ly (talk) 10:18, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Hout Ly. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Ly Kimlong, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬 09:37, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I’m just trying to write articles about cambodian sportspersons. I’m starting with this chess prodigy then I will move on to other people. I’m not trying to write an article for my colleagues or friends. The Cambodia Chess Federation as well as the Ministry of education, youth and sports are trying to list our national champions on Wikipedia and try our best to get ready for sea games 2023 which is host by Cambodia. Writing articles for our strong national sportsperson will make other countries know that Cambodia has good talents! Hout Ly (talk) 10:22, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. The thread is Ly Kimlong. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬 10:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created with a Conflict of Interest

Hello again, I wanted to take a few moments to address your recent edits to Wikipedia. As I stated when you were unblocked, there are a few things you need to do with your account to ensure that you edit within the guidelines of our rules here. We take the matter of having a conflict of interest very seriously, and as such, you MUST post this on your talk page. There are directions here on how to do this on your talk page, which you need to do given your role with the Cambodian Chess Federation and the requests that were made of you to create these. Also, since you do have this conflict of interest, by our rules, any articles you create have got to go through our articles for creation process. Failure to do this could result in your account being blocked from editing. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:06, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay I’m new to Wikipedia. Just recently arrived here after the government issued me to create pages for our athletes. Can you mr @RickinBaltimore help me and show me how I can get my athletes pages on Wikipedia? Hout Ly (talk) 05:39, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hout Ly:, you first need to put the paid editing declaration on your user page, as RickInBaltimore described above. I can do that for you if you like: just say it is OK for me to do it. Also, for the page on Ly Kimlong, are there any newspapers in Khmer that have stories about Ly Kimlong?ThatMontrealIP (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ThatMontrealIP Ok you can do it for me. For newspapers I’ll contact my secretary and he’ll get back to you. But you can contact with Ly Kimlong himself I’ll tell him to reply back to this thread. Hout Ly (talk) 10:17, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ThatMontrealIP do you have social media account so we can contact you? Hout Ly (talk) 10:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hout Ly, please understand if this is a shared account, this account will be blocked for editing as shared accounts are not permitted at all on Wikipedia. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

P@Hout Ly: for your user declaration, we need to know if you are getting paid by the federation to edit Wikipedia. For the Ly Kimlong article, if you have links to newspaper articles in any language, you can post them below. Without adequate reporting in public newspapers, magazines, books, TV or radio, the article will be deleted.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No this account is not a shared account. This is my personal account. https://www.chess.com/member/namtarn

https://www.facebook.com/108090605896115/posts/3298261826878961/?d=n

https://english.cambodiadaily.com › ...Search on for Cambodian Chess Champions - The Cambodia Daily

These are a few links I found in about 15 minutes. Ly Kimlong himself will join this thread later today Hout Ly (talk) 02:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I’m Ly Kimlong. I didn’t know about this until mr. hout told me yesterday. I personally don’t know much about wikipedia. I believe it’s Wikipedia rights to delete this page. Thank you for writing about me in the first page. I have submitted my own version of the page but got rejected too because lack of references. The problem is that we in cambodia dont use fide rating we have national ratings. All the tournaments here are national rated not fide rated and for articles there are a few on facebook posted by independent accounts not so much attention on chess in cambodia. This is why I think mr hout ly created this page. To get foreign attention and ready for sea games which will be my first sea games representing cambodia sea games 2021 in vietnam. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ly Kimlong (talk • contribs) 02:48, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please Dont ban mr hout. I believe he is just doing the work the government told him to do. I take all responsibility for all of this action. Thank you wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ly Kimlong (talk • contribs) 02:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Moving forward

Hout Ly and Ly Kimlong, you're fine. I've added the paid editing notice to your user page, as you requested. You should use the Articles for Creation process to submit your articles. They will be reviewed by another editor and then moved into the "mainspace". Currently they are drafts. Your draft is at Draft:Ly Kimlong (Chess Player), the article currently at Ly Kimlong will likely be deleted, so you might want to update your draft with its contents.

Please read Wikipedia's policies before continuing. You can read a quick introduction at Help:Introduction. I'd also like to point out that articles on Wikipedia must be reliably sourced. Your article on Ly Kimlong can only be accepted if it can be sourced reliably. Notability must already exist, Wikipedia can't be used as promotion to help gain notability. For example, if a local newspaper has published something about Ly Kimlong that would be helpful. You should edit the draft article yourself and bring it up to standard, then submit it for review again when you're happy. You can use articles on other chess players for inspiration, see Category:Chess grandmasters. Best of luck! :) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://khmernews.news/article/archives/128357 Hout Ly (talk) 07:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is a link to a famous cambodia news Hout Ly (talk) 07:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ly Kimlong

Hi. Please re-read the above advice. You should submit paid article for review with WP:AFC rather than creating them directly in mainspace.

I've moved your article to Draft:Ly Kimlong (1) where you can work on it further and then submit it for review. The currently cited sources are seemingly all the same press release. We need independent coverage. I was unable to find any independent mentions of the subject in English or Cambodian.

– Thjarkur (talk) 12:21, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ly Kimlong

Hello, Hout Ly. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Ly Kimlong, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Ly Kimlong

Hello, Hout Ly. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Ly Kimlong".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Ly Kimlong (Chess Player)

Hello, Hout Ly. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Ly Kimlong (Chess Player), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available here.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:17, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]