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Hello, EthicsBob, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited appears to be an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. We require individuals to meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person to accept articles about them.

The page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page. If your contributions to an existing article about yourself are undone and you wish to add to it, please propose the changes on its talk page.

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bob Stone (March 4)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Needs to be properly referenced - see WP:REFB.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bob Stone and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bob Stone, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, EthicsBob! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 23:24, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:EthicsBob[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:EthicsBob requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Knight Skywalker (talk) 04:09, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

March 2022[edit]

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. This is just a note to let you know that I've moved the draft that you were working on to Draft:Bob Stone (author), from its old location at User:EthicsBob. This has been done because the Draft namespace is the preferred location for Articles for Creation submissions. Please feel free to continue to work on it there. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to ask me on my talk page. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Writing about yourself[edit]

You are welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, but it is not a social media site like Facebook or LinkedIn for people to write about themselves. It is a quite different sort of site, a project to build an encyclopedia, so it is selective about subjects for articles. Writing about oneself is strongly discouraged, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about YOU and Wikipedia:Autobiography.

Wikipedia user pages are not like those at social networking sites. Their use is explained at WP:NOTWEBHOST:

"Wikipedians have individual user pages, but they should be used primarily to present information relevant to work on the encyclopedia. Limited autobiographical information is allowed, but user pages do not serve as personal webpages, blogs, or repositories for large amounts of material irrelevant to collaborating on Wikipedia. If you want to post your résumé or make a personal webpage, please use one of the many free providers on the Internet or any hosting included with your Internet account. The focus of user pages should not be social networking or amusement, but rather providing a foundation for effective collaboration. Humorous pages that refer to Wikipedia in some way may be created in an appropriate namespace. Personal web pages are often speedily deleted."

You can find out more about Wikipedia at the WP:Welcome page and the WP:Introduction, as well as Wikipedia's plain and simple conflict of interest guide. Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Bob Stone (author) (March 8)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Timtrent were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Bob Stone (author) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Bob Stone (author), click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Bob Stone has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Bob Stone. Thanks! Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the references cited dmeet Wikipedia's criteria. The books, especially, extensively discuss my work and its importance. This is to request that you reconsider your decision not to accept the article. EthicsBob (talk) 01:27, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

After my message asking for reconsideration, I've added two more references. EthicsBob (talk) 17:50, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, the creator of an autobiography has a rose tinted view of their own notability. You may or may not be notable in a Wikipedia sense. The references you have chosen are likely to have online versions. Please link to those. You need to make it easy for readers and reviewers alike.

Note, please, that your work itself may be notable, but paradoxically you may not. You say the references discuss your work and its importance. They need to discuss you.

Why did you create more than one version of your autobiography? This is been as trying to game the system. Blank one or put {{DB-user}} at the head of it, and work only on the other one. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:01, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean to create more than one version. I'm not sure how to find the one to delete or blank. I'll try. EthicsBob (talk) 19:13, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Bob Stone (author) and Draft:Bob Stone as linked above Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:15, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When you are confident please resubmit. There are many reviewers, each of us has a different opinion, though the same acceptance criteria. I almost never review a second time.

Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:17, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bob Stone[edit]

Hello, EthicsBob. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Bob Stone, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:02, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Bob Stone (author)[edit]

Hello, EthicsBob. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Bob Stone (author), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:04, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bob Stone[edit]

Hello, EthicsBob. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Bob Stone".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:35, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Bob Stone (author)[edit]

Hello, EthicsBob. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Bob Stone".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:52, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse![edit]

Hello! EthicsBob, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:54, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]