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WikiCup 2024 May newsletter
The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.
The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.
The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.
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Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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June 2024
Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup. There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason.
I'm pretty sure you already know this but, Lead is supposed to be short summary not that long as you did (see WP:LEAD)
Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 15:15, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
@Vestrian24Bio: I acknowledge your concerns which you have pointed out and as a result I have made a breakdown by trimming the paragraph into the sections in articles 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup Group A and under the background title in the article 2024 ICC Men's T20 World Cup. --Abishe (talk) 04:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Siri Kannangara
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WikiCup 2024 July newsletter
The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.
The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:
- Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.
The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.
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Using some tool to generate these articles
Hi, I have just moved your two most recent articles to draft space and am checking a third one. A sentence like "She also faced stumbling blocks, obstacles and roadblocks for pursuing career prospect on racing as she faced rampant criticism in the society given it was quite an unorthodox passion to pursue considering her gender identity." makes me wonder whether you use some AI tool like ChatGPT, or some tool to paraphrase sources? I have noted an abundance of flowery language, weird constructions, and sometimes very close paraphrasing, coupled with factual issues, so it looks as if you need to take more care, slow down, and check your articles thoroughly. Fram (talk) 15:52, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
@Fram: Hi, I understand your basic thought process about this and I acknowledge about the misconception regarding my style of writing. First of all I pride myself being an ardent writer and I have the knack in writing. Actually speaking you are not the only person who has raised such an alarming concern over my style of writing. In fact, the place where I am currently employed at Amana Bank (Sri Lanka), my immediate supervisor gave me the exact feedback regarding my complex use of vocabulary, puffery and complex usage of words when compiling mails through Microsoft Outlook and she told me to focus on reducing the unnecessary jargons. I just wanted to elaborate you on why I am using these wordings as I have very often listened to the commentary lines used by cricket commentators like Ian Bishop (cricketer), Pommie Mbangwa, Michael Holding, Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton, Mark Nicholas etc as they frequently use subtle wordings to exaggerate the emotions to capture the captivating breathtaking nailbiting moments in the sport of cricket. Since I have been frequently listening to their style of commentary, it has actually become part and parcel of my life to incorporate such wordings in my day to day activities. I know it is a lame excuse to even begin with but I have realised that my style of writing has gone to an extent where I have formulated trajectory by exaggerating certain events. For context, in cricket, commentators use certain wordings and technical wordings to aggravate the situations like "opening the face of the bat, impeccable timing, sublime timing, poetry in motion, he had all three stumps to aim at, elegant footwork, right on the blockhole, right on the money, firing on all cylinders, all guns blazing, taking the pace off the delivery, toe end of the bat, there is huge purchase for bowlers out there in the middle, graveyard of a pitch to bat on for the batters, bowlers are going to have a field day on this pitch, slightly overpitched, canny operator in the middle, nice backfoot punch through the offside, ability to rotate the strike and running between the wickets, weaved a magic and spinners spun web by wreaking havoc on the opposition batters, the soft dismissal opened the floodgates for the opposition to make inroads in the contest". I am fully aware about my shortcomings over this aspect and I am trying to figure out a way to tweak and modify the way I am going to express and pitch the content in the articles. I too faced this very same situation at Toastmasters where I delivered a lengthy speech over the advent of T20 cricket causing a rift among generations by including so many technical jargons that the common people would not understand and the speech failed to live up to the expectations as it never went in line with the set target audience. I am really having a dilemma on how to manage the way of writing articles in the future. I am definitely not using QuillBot or ChatGPT as insisted by you since I can write any articles and essays by incorporating such words even without referring to such sites. The main reason owing to this situation is that I am overly exposed to the commentary lines used by commentators which are forever etched in my memory and I am showing my eagerness to utilise those words in real life aspect. I understand this is going to backfire for me in the long run since not many people would have that level of patience to understand my insightful analysis. Abishe (talk) 16:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm glad that you aren't using any tools, but you will need to write more concisely, clearly and neutrally (and in your own words, not taking sentences from sources and reordering the words or inserting some synonyms, see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing). You wlll also need to listen to what others are saying: for example reposting the above at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anjalika Wijesinghe will only bewilder the other people in that discussion, as that wall of text has little if anything to do with the deletion discussion. Fram (talk) 06:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Close paraphrasing / copyright violations
I said earlier that you should take care not to copy or closely paraphrase copyrighted sources. In your most recent creation, Krish Reddy, you e.g. write
- "In his illustrious career, he was predominantly well known for his unwavering commitment and dedication to collating and preserving the record of players prior to the unification of cricket in 1991, who would have largely otherwise unrecognized in segregated South Africa."
The source[1] says:
- "Best-known for his dedication to collating and preserving the records of players who were otherwise unrecognised in segregated South Africa"
The text "pre-eminent record keeper of black and non-racial cricket in South Africa" is taken straight from the same source" and "also served on the executive board of KwaZulu-Natal Cricket Union and worked as a selector in the region" are also taken straight from the source, while many other parts are closely paraphrased as well. I will nominate the page for deletion for that reason. Fram (talk) 09:35, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Krish Reddy
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A tag has been placed on Krish Reddy requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/krish-reddy-record-keeper-of-black-cricket-in-south-africa-dies-1340049. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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- @Abishe and Fram: Hi Abishe. You are not a new Wikipedia editor. You are well aware of Wikipedia's copyright policies. Yet you made a choice to create an article in violation of them. I do understand why you created the article: as keen cricket fan, I must admit I looked the article, and thought to myself, "there must be some way to rescue this from speedy deletion". As as a WP:ADMIN, however, I was obliged to delete it. OK, this is is kind of unusual, but I would be happy to work with you to recreate the article. First of all: write it in your own words, and don't copy and paste from other websites. It's fine with me if you are minded to recreate Krish Reddy without going through the WP:AFC process. Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 11:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
@Shirt58: @Fram: I definitely did not copy the contents as mentioned in Cricinfo and yes its my bad I just took the exact wordings here and there to incorporate them in my previously half-baked written article. I apologise for that as I ran out of ideas when I created that article yesterday on how to write a solid article since I had only a handful of sources to support the claim of my writing. Anyway I made another attempt in recreating the article about the same subject by starting it from scratch and I honestly wrote it in a better way so that it can be an interesting read. I apologise for the unfortunate incident which unfolded yesterday over the way I structured the article content. I really acknowledge that the previously written article did not live up to the expectations as intended and I this time rectified my mistake by not violating copyright infringement. Abishe (talk) 15:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)