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Castella de Aguada[edit]

I did a copyedit, and expanded it a bit more. I'm afraid that further references are unavailable for now. Your thoughts on content expansion? PS I will be away for the next few days. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:16, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I will get to that as soon as I can. Now that I'm off of User:Allanon, I just remembered what it is like to have a massive watchlist. -_- —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:12, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Commented finally and just get back to me when you can. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:15, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Back to normal![edit]

Hi Ed- you're back to the old account then- are you ready for the wikicup! How are you doing? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 22:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah lol :) I was going to wait until the 1st, but I decided that this was just dumb - if I'm going to be using this eventually anyway, who cares? If someone takes my password and I get blocked, an unblock request is easy and simple, as is changing my password. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:20, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah! What a relief...I say, Ed, your slave Allanon was quite the pain in the rear. Glad to have you back. ;D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 22:59, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Aw, poor baby... :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:02, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm laaaate! I'm always late! No matter how early I am in the beginning, I'm always late... either way, it's an unexpected relief to have you back on Ed17 :) Icy // ♫ 23:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) Why me? You have to deal with him all the time - I hear you're in his presence 24 hours a day. What's that like? I mean, how can you stand a guy like that, always under your skin?

(after) Don't worry, little bunny, Alice is here. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:04, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(@Icy) Aw, I'm sorry for ya Icy...but it's nice to hear from you again too. :)

(@Pianista) LOL now, now, who'd you hear that from? Who talked?!? >.> —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say nothin', so don't y'all come after me. —La Sockista ^(My master) 23:10, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Stalker! :O —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Guilty as accused. Anyways, don't tell me that the original wording didn't kind of suck. Icy // ♫ 23:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

It sucked bad, fellow gnome. You are acquitted - good job. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(out) I am an IDIOT! Stupid, stupid, stupid cut and paste from the Samoa article... -_- —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

And Ed just <<HAS>> to go and redo my work. -glares- Icy // ♫ 23:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Aw, Ed how could you? Meanie... :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:22, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry! But you guys just gave me three e/c's in there...so you got your revenge. With all of these edits, we might get on the front of WikiChecker! :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

O_O Alaska class battlecruiser AND my talk page are on there! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:24, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) I'd go beyond the front page and into the top ten most wanted for worst user-to-mainspace ratio... >.> <.< You guys won't tell, will you?

(after) 'Tis love, sweet love. See what lengths we go for you? :P —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:26, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I can't speak for Icy (:D), but I'll try not too...it'll be hard. :) Ah, the saaaad downfall of Hugglers'...

Thanks a lot guys...I mean it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:29, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

No prob! No one is supposed to know, but...I find editing your articles and doing your "favors" pleasurable. :P Say it with me: Ewwwwww! :D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

EWWWWWWWW. And Ed, I have a question: "The 5"/38 had originally been intended for use on destroyers being built in the 1930s, but by 1934 and into World War II, it was installed on nearly every major U.S. warship" - Are the destroyers being built in the 1930's, or the 5"/38's being built in the 1930's? Icy // ♫ 23:35, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) Noooo! Large font, right under yours! That's just sad... Wait, give me a moment...

Ah, I feel better. At least we're equally pitiable. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:36, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

(out, 2 e/c) LOL! Ewwwwwww! There. :)
O.O Icy, you are from Connecticut? (Read your blog) What town? I used to live in Colchester a few years ago!
(after 1) Ummm. Good question; I forget! :) Checking now... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I am. Don't wanna say which town, though. Not your town, don't worry :) And thanks for checking ...the commas got confusing, and I didn't want to mislead the reader... Icy // ♫ 23:39, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

That's fine (I wasn't thinking - was too excited for a few moments there ("dude, did I know her")!) Anyway, I was just wondering...I mean, you know what they say... :)

Still hunting for an answer... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

-insert crazy laughing that would have been freaky. Geeez! -That's an A-class article? All the mistakes! Icy // ♫ 23:47, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Now, now, Icy, we're talking about his baby. Don't hurt the poor poochy's feelings. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 23:49, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't matter whether it's his baby or pencil sharpener. That's what gnomes are for ;)... now, who reviewed that article? I've got to have a conversation with her/him... Icy // ♫ 23:50, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Do you see why I haven't nominated it at FAC? I've been waiting for a little more info and something like this to happen. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:52, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

@ earlier post, which I have forgotten: Well, think of Six degrees. Think about it - you know someone who knows someone who knows someone, and so on, who knows me. The link is probably even smaller for Icy, since she comes from the same state.

Gosh, I'm feeling chilly... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

O_o come to think of it, my mom has some friends in Colchester... (all Chinese people :D) ...hm. Well that was kinda smart, Ed, knowing you couldn't do it yourself. Or you were too lazy. :P Honestly, and I think my work is completely mindless... Icy // ♫ 00:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I think he's using us, manipulating us - think of it, Icy, you are...A CHILD SLAVE! :O :P

Ja, you flew through it. I normally take it slow, read a sentence three times over, and juggle a new post on my blog (recently finished, yay...) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

All this was written in two hours??!! Edit the mainspace guys! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha... I really should. But I'm pretty much stuck w/o any of my real-life friends right now (all here or there on vacation) so... sorry, Mainspace. La Pianista - My style is to jump around, do this, then do that... Icy // ♫ 00:11, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

We are! Or, at least, I am. If I had no articles to edit, it'd be worse, oh, so bad you wouldn't believe... *evil laugh* —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:12, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(e/c x 2, @ Ollie) :D Look at the history of Alaska-class battlecruiser, Ollie. ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd already done so. Yes OK- you've been editing some ship article! I'll never be a proper article builder. My latest effort, Transport in Buckinghamshire which is of mild interest to me is taking me ages to write and I can't find any decent sources to cite. Back to Huggle for me! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Finally, a like-minded soul... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(@ ollie) You forgot a part: "...some ship article like normal!" :D

Ick, no fun. Try Google Books too, and when searching, search not for "Transport in Buckinghamshire" but "x Road" or "___ Railway". Find a history of it, and then hunt for a part for a part of the history that involves Buckinghamshire. It's what I did for the WWII parts of USS Nevada (BB-36), at least... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

My last comment rhymes! 'Write' and 'cite'- am I a future poet? How many articles have you started, Miss Pianista? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) Or, you can give it all up and take the easy life of the filthy MySpacer and annoy your WikiBuddies to death with your bad puns and butt-ins. :D

(after) Roughly six or seven. They're all disambigs and redirects, though, like this one. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I've created an article in my life other than user talk pages of newbies to place a note, warning, or welcome ...there was one that was speedy'd, I think, when I didn't know what notability was -_-' ... Alaska's getting harder, now that all the obviously crappy stuff is gone. Icy // ♫ 00:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(out) Just to let you guys know, (note this next word now) when this goes to FAC, you guys are going to get a mention at the top in my nomination (or you can co-nom, I don't care :D)... Thank you both soooo much! But I have to go for now. Be back on later tonight! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:50, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Mention Icy, not me - she did a way better job. I'm just cruising, doing what I normally do - not even paying attention. I'll have to read through it again...and I'm not b.s.-ing, either. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 00:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Nah, don't thank me. I just took care of really obvious/really stupid/really ugly stuff. A first grader could have done it. And thanks for this... I think watching the freaky puppet-person part of the Together When... video hasn't been doing my mentality too much good. No excuses from you! Geez, I haven't made a mistake with those things forever ...embarrassing. Someone add 1000 useless revisions to that article to cover up my mistake... Icy // ♫ 00:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, if we're both gonna be modest, we aren't going to get anywhere, are we? :) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Wrong. You're being modest, I'm being truthful. Icy // ♫ 03:07, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well guess what? I think I'm truthful, and you're being modest. Gonna do anything about that? :P —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:14, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I am. Firstly, I only did my little work on that article because I was tailing you... you & Ed did everything that needed actual attention. You also have many more edits to that article, with a lot more content changed - you can see that in those little green and red numbers. I'll bet that in most of my edits, you won't even be able to edit the red character that I changed, 'cause it's so tiny. Modesty, don't know my take on that, but I can't let go of my pride. Especially when it comes to proving a point. Grr... my keyboard is lagging. Icy // ♫ 03:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I do small edits so that I can explain each one in the edit summaries. And I've never, never added content to that article. Gah, it's a pointless fight...

And congrats on your new instrument! I haven't had a new piano since I was four, and that was only an upgrade from a little twenty-key electric keyboard to an itty-bitty console... —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:22, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Aw, you poor baby! —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Aw, you sweet baby! (It was written by a few friends of mine, and I really haven't gotten my hands into it yet) —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

And speaking of that subway, it really means a lot to my family - I grew up riding on it with Mom and Dad some days to go shopping for Christmas or just spend the weekend...sad to see it all go. —La Pianista ^(T•C•S) 03:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(One last post, then off for neeewww violliiin <<obsessiveness>>) Don't worry, I'll try and make sure to take that subway next time I go to Dallas/FW :D Icy // ♫ 14:58, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Epic fail. It closed in 2002. -_- —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

(out!) Fail? Fail? POITNS TO ME!!!!! I'm a genius not. Icy // ♫ 22:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

*guffaw* O ya, dat wuz so abvious... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

If you have time...[edit]

BabelFish pwns. U haz Slavic child. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sad... :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

You know what's ironic? On your userpage (via BabelFish): "This to use has native announcer English off." :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

I almost love you... :D :D :D :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Every once in awhile... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so I didn't go to bed...but this is the last post, I pinky promise!

I've got a few questions on the Alaska class cruiser I don't want you to miss - I know you have a huge watchlist there. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I know and I saw...getting to them slowly... :) Talking to my bff on messenger right now, so half distracted ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

MOAR STALKERZ!!!!!1! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, you're bound to get stalkers when you shout it out to everyone! Little Mountain 5 18:23, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Just how many people is Ed going to have to thank when he <<finally>> tries for Featured ... Icy // ♫ 18:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Fyi, Lil' Mountain, I didn't shout. 'Twas a rather winded note, not IN SCREAMIN' CAPS LIKE THIS!!!!! :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:22, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Moar kittehmaster fanz. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 20:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

(<--) Oh good, I'm glad you didn't shout.
WOW- 43 edits in one day! (And nearly 100 in a week!) [1]. I gotta get you guys over here someday... Little Mountain 5 01:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

My Problems with Convert[edit]

Thanks for TPSing; MBK004 is probably getting tired of my questions. My problem is not the 15 part, it's the 6-inch part. If I was ignoring the need to include a metric conversion, I would write "6-inch guns" or "6-in. guns". With convert, however, I get "6 in (152mm) guns", which is at least untidy, if not confusing.Busaccsb (talk) 21:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, try this (stolen from Iowa-class battleship): 9 × 16-inch (406 mm) / 50 cal. Mark 7 guns

While it doesn't have to be that long, you could probably do fine with "15 × 6-inch (152 mm) / __ cal. guns." (Add in your caliber) Right? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I should have looked at that site, seeing as how it is considered such an excellent example. 6-inch (152 mm)should work. About the caliber, though... Do you think it is always necessary? My specialty (so far, at least) is writing introductions. Caliber is usually mentioned later on in the article. Also, as long as I have your attention, perhaps you can help me with something else. What's this thing. I see it used a lot, would like to know how to use it. I'll probably have other questions, hope you are willing to help me with themBusaccsb (talk) 23:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

If I may butt in (:D) The is a no-break space. Meaning, if the text has to be broken after reaching the margin at the end of a line, World War II will become

World War II instead of World War

II. You can read about it and other HTML here. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry - just found a better article for you here. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:32, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

And no, that link to caliber is not needed more than once. :) Just link it the first time you see it, and then no more after that unless you need to...try not to overlink, but use common sense - if the article is long and you think that something should be linked later too, than link it again. Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thanksBusaccsb (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The Best Years of Our Lives...[edit]

Come now. That's an exaggeration - you've never personally met any one of your closest friends here, so it can't be the best year of your life. Surely we haven't made that much of an impact on you, have we? :) ('Course it's not a bad thing if we did, it's a nice thing to do...hence, any "nicety" I've participated in cannot be tolerated.) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 17:39, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Worded slightly wrong...thanks for being a significant reason in why 2008 was the best year of my life. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Better. And...*shifts uncomfortably*...likewise. Now, give me a hammer. I'm too nice to everybody today, and I've got too much pent-up attitude to leave it that way. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Go take out your anger on that creeper pianist dude that likes you. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

That could be taken so pervertedly, it's not even funny (actually, it is)... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

But you know, sometimes I feel sorry for the guy...which is dangerous. He's not always an *ss, but I've seen too many monstrosities and gross behavior to let him at it. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, don't go out with him 'cos your sorry for him. It'll turn out bad - I've seen the results when two of my good friends started to hate each other because of that. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes. Only sometimes. I can never see the two of us together - and he's just too stuck-up for me, anyways. What? What'd you say? :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol just be quiet. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

And just because you told me to be, I won't. I'm too awesome for that. *mouth twitches, tries not to laugh* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) You better not be laughing... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

*tic, tic* No...I'm...not... cackle, cackle —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

TopGearFreak has given you a kitten! Gifts of kittens promote Wikilove and holiday spirit. Hopefully this one has made your day better. Share the WikiLove and civility with everyone and raise the holiday spirit! Send kittens to others by adding {{subst:User:Marlith/Joy Message}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Wow. To be confronted by size 10 script, reading 'CONGRATULATIONS TOPGEAR!' warmed my heart this morning. Thanks!

P.S. No evil kittehmasters were used in the making of this joy message. :P TopGearFreak 20:11, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Aw, thanks TopGear! It was no problem. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup[edit]

Delivered by neuro^(talk) for Garden and aye matthew at 20:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Help with references[edit]

Hi Ed. I was wondering if you could help me with something to do with references. I have seen articles before where the same reference is used more than once and it is listed once in the ref list with its uses listed (a,b,c) etc beside it. How do you get that to happen? I have used a {{cite web}} ref twice but in the list of references it shows up twice. Do you (or anyone else) know what to do? Thanks. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

TPS - well, you know how when you create a new citation you always have to name the reference? To get the same thing, do <ref name="NAME OF REF YOU USED ALREADY GOES HERE" /> ... like that. And it does itself. Test it out, if it doesn't work, someone'll look at it. Icy // ♫ 02:08, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

A quick poke through Alaska shows that Ed used <ref group=A> in much the same way as Icy outlined for "ref name." So you could say <ref group=B>, <ref group=C>, and so on. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that works. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:23, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, if you've got time, could you have a quick look through here and tell me what you think so far. Thanks. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 03:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't look too bad so far! I took a quick MoS run through it, but it wasn't bad. :) Did you see my 00:24, 30 December 2008 (UTC) post? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I took a look at Google Books but couldn't find much for what I wanted. I'll look again when I expand the article. Also, I'll make sure I always add an 'access date' to the refs from now on. And it's punctuation before refs. Did you change anything else? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 04:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Make sure that you've got a page number for that book ref, and you need a source where I added that {{fact}}.

Humph. Do any newspapers near Buckinghamshire put up their old archives?

(after) What're you doing Pianista?!? :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Being an idiot...one would think I have no life, the way I cling to you people... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

I've added a ref for the {{fact}} and am able to go to my library to find out that page number. I've put another source for the text in question anyway, but I don't want all the sources to be websites.

I've never seen my local paper, the Bucks Free Press ever put up any really old archives, even though it was founded in the 1850s. I may be wrong, but I can't see a link on their website. Thanks. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 04:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) That is good thinking. :)
If you are really dedicated, you may be able to request specific papers from them...or your library may have microfilms of them. Just throwing ideas out there... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

confetti[edit]

<baby talk>Awl donnnnnne! I did good job, Ede? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL yes, yes you did. Only couple more content additions, and off to FAC. :) Thank you, thank you, thank you! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:01, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! It was actually pretty fun. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 16:28, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Fellow gnome, I admit that I could never have thought of that ...but I got the last edit in of 2008 on that page! Which means nothing ...but bragging rights, bien sûr. Happy new year, Ed! Icy // ♫ 17:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Happy New Year to you too, Icy. Thanks! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Soooo...shamelessly hogging the limelight, are we? Jk - see my comment on your blog, Icy. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. I'm not a night person, and neither am I a morning one...but excuses don't work. Fail. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol no big deal, just had to raz you.

And keep c/e'ing Alaska whenever you see something please (don't declare something to be your "last edit" =[ )! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:09, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I know - the more I see of it, the more tempting it is to change it, even if nothing's wrong at all. Gnome syndrome, technically chronic but in acute waves... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah ...Lately, I've been forcing myself to not reword something "just 'cause it makes me happy" ...so odd. Icy // ♫ 17:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I add you guys as co-noms at FAC? (You both did a ton of work on it.) If yes, I will be nominating tomorrow after work, or on Sunday when I finally have some time to myself that is longer than an hour. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:37, 3 January 2009 (UTC) ~~: Uhh ...if you want. Icy // ♫ 01:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)~~

No way! I don't deserve it. How could you insinuate such a thing, you bad boy! :P

Please, keep the credit - share it with Icy if you want. I already feel kinda bad for splitting a DYK with Chamal - I still don't think half of it should be mine, even a quarter. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

<3 All those hyphens...

*fanning self* Why, sah, I do believe...why, I do believe I am getting the vapors... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, you sure do deserve a big ~~trout~~ whale for saying that. That's rich, coming from someone who wanted to hunt me down with a trout for saying I'm no good at anything. But heh, I guess I'd feel like that too - I'm not too comfortable about the DYK for 14"/50 caliber gun with Ed. Chamal ^talk 04:50, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No, you cannot give me any credit if you don't give Pianista any. Even if you want. Above comment struck. Icy // ♫ 15:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait a minute! I didn't say I wasn't good at anything - that came from some other guy whose name I can't remember now. That would have been truly trout-deserving. I admit I'm a clever gnome and copyeditor, but nothing of a content-builder. That's why I didn't deserve the FA or DYK nom - our FLC, though, might be "creditable" on my part, since I'll be keeping up with the images and comments. K? :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 16:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

ZOMG all of you. Pianista and Icy, I'm nomming that article right after this (look here). Just add bloody co-noms, because you guys did do a lot - that article had NO chance of passing a FAC before you two. You guys are gonna get credit either way...I'll make sure of it. :P

Chamal, you wrote the majority of that article, so take THAT and chew on it. :)

Anyway, I work for eight hours starting at 1 my time, and I don't think that I will be able to get on after that. So I'll see you kids later. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you'd better remove my credit unless you want me to...uh...What can I do to you that I haven't done already...?

Okay, fine. Have it your way. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Done —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Co-nom

Done. *rolls eyes* Jk - too kind, too kind. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:31, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Icy, you better add your name too. :D

<3 Thanks Pianista! Geesh, make my life difficult. Now you get to help address any reviewers' concerns... ;)

Now, off to get ready for work. Cheers all! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

All righty! Stay safe now - don't leave your baby without a Daddy. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:40, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Co-nomed

Done. But I'm late again. Aw, well. Against my better judgment, I added my name. Icy // ♫ 18:42, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Greetings (and some Milhist business)[edit]

First, happy new year!

Second, I've raised a couple of things here which could use swift responses. May I trouble you please to check them out?

Thanks! --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 19:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

My age[edit]

I don't actually like beer so I wouldn't drink it if I was fifty. Now you're a man, will you resist the alcohol?!

Do you know when the WikiCup scoreboards are updated by the way? I want to know my score! I've also taken a decision. I will alternate between article building and vandalism reversion each day. Huggle's just not as exciting as it was when I first used it! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 23:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL, and yes I will - only have had alcohol in church before! :D (communion wine)

Nope, I have no idea. :) And yeah, everything gets less exciting over time...I dunno. Content additions are a lot less fun right now, and with my busy schedule it's hard to do content building anyway! Maybe I'll go to AfC or AFD...w/e lol :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I saw some guys userpage where he stated that he'd only support people for adminship if they visited and commented on at least five AfD's a day.

Do you see a GA in that transport article if I keep working on it like I am now? I try to add a ref for any comment that is not obvious. Also, what is the general attitude to images on GA's and FA's. Do they have to pass some sort of relevancy test? (I'm new to this!) Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 23:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Walking out the door right now, will reply in full later...but for the "roads" section, look at Road FA's...don't they use Google Maps or something? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The roads section was added by someone else today. I don't like it and will jazz it up when I get to roads. That road section is just a copy of the road section from the main Buckinghamshire article. See ya later! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 23:51, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

GA? Yes.

No, just make sure that the licensing is OK. :) Yes, that Denbigh Bridge pic is ok.

What I meant by Google Maps is that some road FA's I've seen use it to reference where these roads go (through x town, etc.). Would that help you? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey Ed. I'll try that thing with Google Maps tomorrow (today's my vandal fighting shift!). I've just been playing about with Twinkles configuration- I've altered it so that I don't give out shared IP notices with warnings- level 4 warnings don't look as forceful with them there!

The WikiCup scoreboards have some scores but I don't know if they're real or not (you've got no points at all). I haven't seen any bots editing the scoreboard. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:03, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol well have fin with that. :P

Yes, they are right. See User:Garden/WikiCup/2009.

I have a book called The World's Great Railway Journeys...would any of these routes help?

London Euston to Glasgow

London King's Cross to Edinburgh Waverly (The Flying Scotsman)

London Paddington to Swansea (The Red Dragon)

London Euston to Holyhead (The Irish Mail)

London Paddington to Penzance

London Victoria to Dover (The Golden Arrow)

Beford to Bletchley

London to Cologne

I hope that one of these routes can help. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:54, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The one's ticked above are of use to me (all routes out of Paddington and most out Euston have to go through Bucks). London has about 20 main line termini- three have services to Buckinghamshire (the other being Marylebone). I don't know why Bedford to Bletchley is a great railway- just a commuter line. Anyway thanks- I'll see if I can purchase that book from somewhere. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 19:04, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) You are a funny one, Ollie. I'll add the stuff you need for you as soon as I have time (i.e. like when I slog through this bloody FAC!. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Is it a large book? I don't want you slogging through pages and pages of text to find one sentence for me! It's hard work, this article. Bucks has a long railway history- we had two main lines in 1838, a branch line in 1839, another important railway in 1850, another in 1854, in 1863, 1889, 1892, 1906 and 1912- all to be written up! I'm only up to 1839! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It's an encyclopedia of sorts - about two pages on each route. Nothing compared to what I slogged through for Lexington-class battlecruiser...:) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

So what do we do? Do you want to give me a {{cite book}} ref for each route. I can then add them to the relevant section, as long as the source says what the text says! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 01:01, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh, sure! And I'll add some stuff too...but tommorow. Have to go now. -_- Sorry! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I won't be in till about 19:00 UTC tomorrow evening- going to London! Did you see the new Wikicup scoring regulations- no Huggle or Twinkles! Poor J.delanoy!, I think he's a bit upset judging by his userpage (He's withdrawn). Even when Huggle was allowed, you'd have to revert 100 vandals to get 1 point! See ya later today. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 01:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh darn it. One last check of my watchlist reminds me tha tI forgot about this...again. I'm really sorry Ollie...I promise that I will get to it... =/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 08:05, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this sucks. I don't know anything about your geography, so when I see town names, I don't know if they are in Buckinghamshire! =/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Chevron[edit]

Ed, thanks for the award! Tony (talk) 12:26, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem - you deserved it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Userpage[edit]

Can you give me any tips on how to make my userpage better...? It just seems to be pathetically short and anything I add to make it longer seems to be pointless and just drags on. I've thought of adding book reviews like yours, but I want something else too. Any ideas? Oh, and I want to think up a colour scheme that goes with my sig, but I've tried that ([2]) and it just seems girly. Any ideas? Your and Pianista's userpages are so good! TopGearFreak 18:24, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Not a lot of time right now, but my suggestion is to talk to Pianista - she likes to help design user pages... (the next Phaedriel? :D) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

What I'd give to have a heart like Phaedriel... You are too kind. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

wikicup[edit]

Um... how do you sign up for the wikicup?--Spittlespat 23:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Spittle, but it's too late; registration was capped at 60 people a little before Christmas. :( —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

[3][edit]

You really don't need to add my name to the nom, I only changed one word. Little Mountain 5 18:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Too late, it's already there. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah...face it LM, whether you like it or not, we appreciate your work. Hard times, huh? :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hard times. :D Little Mountain 5 00:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

are you online?[edit]

yes or no...--Spittlespat 22:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

No, it says so on the top of this page. If he was, then I'd be asking him about Werespielcheques' question on the FA nom :) Icy // ♫ 22:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Now I am, for a little bit. What's up?

Oh how rewarding a FAC is...after you get through it. :D

Doing... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Better get to work on those issues at FAC that Pianista left for you - family has a guest today, so *busy*/*offline* most of the time. Sorry, people. Icy // ♫ 00:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ne'mind - I'll be here. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It happens, Icy; don't think that we are mad. :) I'll be gone for (probably) the rest of the night soon too! =/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ick. Hope you get some free time soon. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol! Same. -_- —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Here's an annoying question for you - when you write "Lol", are you really laughing out loud? Or is it just a way of saying "Thanks for the comments - your attempts to make me laugh are cute, and I sympathize." :P

And you've joined the official decree. Congrats - now everyone knows that you live your life partly through me. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes the first, sometimes the second. :)

Oh boy! I feel so...special! :D "Infested"? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, it is an infestation of sorts, no matter how treasured. I mean...come on, you give me edit conflicts answering questions initially addressed to me. (Sound familiar? :P) If you like, though, I can change it. How about "rigged"? "Riddled"? "Covered/Smothered with", perhaps? Or how about "My page is a channel for the superpowers of the following immortals, who exhibit their awesome powers via their supreme watching of my page"? I have an uncanny feeling you'll like the last one...wild guess here. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Funny...you read my mind. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I know. Aren't I so cool? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

<3 <3 <3. Why, good sir, I am finding it...why, I am finding it unnaturally hard to contain myself, dear sir. *quick breathing, fans self* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Well, I have to go to work, but I may be on later. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:41, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

All right - I'll try to stay calm till then, ne? Try to keep it cool now - don't get distracted while you work at the thought of what you'll get once you're back. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

:D :D :D[edit]

IT'S RECEDING!!! :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL wow...congrats? :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

That question mark is disturbing...though I have to say your Alaska is to credit for my amazing success. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Re: navweapons.com[edit]

Thanks for the welcome back message. I commented at the FAC. Hope it helps. Also, I have been watching your contributions closely since you were coopted to fill in as a coordinator after I bolted, and you have done an outstanding job. You pick things up quick, and you work well with others. AS a result, I am of the opinion that you would make a good admin, and if you like I would be willing to file an rfa for you if you decide you want adminship responsibilites. TomStar81 (Talk) 23:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

See Ed, I told you it was coming. Co-nom? -MBK₀₀₄ 23:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh heh. Co-nom? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Pianista, it is usually better if the noms/co-noms are done by admins. -MBK₀₀₄ 00:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

@La Pianista: Since you and Ed are so close, you should run for adminship too, as a couple. :P Little Mountain 5 00:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

(@ Tom) Thanks! I replied to it there...but MAN I knew it was one of your FACs...I just couldn't remember which. :)

(@ Tom, MBK, Pianista) Well, ah, I can't claim that this was completely unexpected per MBK, and becuase of that I have been thinking about it, but do you guys really think that I have a chance? I mean, I do not participate in the "admin" areas very often, and, well....yeah.

(@ LM5) LOL o just shut it, pal. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

(@ MBK) Eh, it doesn't really matter if the nominator is an admin; what does matter is the strength of the nomination. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 02:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: You as hell do have a chance. J.delanoy's an admin, and he admits that he just Huggles around here. He's just good at what he does and is of the right temperament - just like yourself. :)

@ MBK: OK...if you think so. On second thought, I might not be able to write a really good nom anyway.

@ LM: Oh, yeah. We'd be an unstoppable duo. I say, our kid would be a crat and an admin...on ten different wikis. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: Definitely! Let me see: You have 1 FA (almost two), two A class articles, four GAs, your a coordinator of WP:MILHIST, and you're well known. I think you have a great chance!

@ Pianista: That would be amazing! Seriously though, you would make a great admin! Little Mountain 5 21:34, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I personally think Ed would do well as an admin. Great temperament, skills, experience. Of course, if I were him I wouldn't say no to obtaining some more experience in admin areas... (-cough, cough-) but he would have my support. Icy // ♫ 22:08, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

(out, @ everyone) - Three of those four GA's shouldn't be there - I have to merge them into Alaska-class cruiser (look at them...they are virtually them same (cut and pasted). Doesn't look so good now, eh? :)
Well, with the cries of "yes you can" flying around...I guess that I could try for it. Thanks everyone for your kind words (that I probably don't deserve :D). —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Your RfA is in work. We'll (Tom and I) will provide the link here for you when we are ready for you to answer the questions and accept. -MBK₀₀₄ 02:38, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks guys! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:39, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: Go stuff yourself, Ed, if you think you're not good enough.

@ Pianista: J.delanoy passed his RfA (second one), at a time when life was much easier. A huggler wouldn't have a good chance of passing an RfA now without a lot of good contributions. But that doesn't affect Ed; he's experienced in a lot of areas in Wikipedia, so no problem. Chamal ^talk 02:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL well then you can't say the same thing. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/The ed17 is ready for your acceptance and answers to the questions. After that let me know and I'll finish up the things needed and transclude to WP:RFA. Good luck! -MBK₀₀₄ 03:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Good luck! This will be on my watch list until it passes, and if you have any questions feel free to ask me or MBK or anyone else you think may know. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Doing now. :) Thanks Tom and MBK! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Argh, RL intercedes. My friend that just got back from Nevada just called; will be back when I'm done talking... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh c'mon... Now I have to wait 'till morning! Little Mountain 5 03:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

(@ MBK, Tom) Done. What do you think?

(@ LM5) LOL sorry friend. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

One minor but important detail: just above the question is a line that say "candidate please indicate you accept the nom" or something to that effect. You need to write that you do accept before this can go out into the main page :) TomStar81 (Talk) 04:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Done - was doing it when you messaged me, but I had to figure out how to word it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Twenty word nom![edit]

Can you cut it please? Thanks. --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 02:21, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Your RFA[edit]

Alright then, its officially up. Good luck to you. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the nom and the luck! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Good luck, buddy! I'm on reduced editing...yuck. Hope to come back and see you an admin! ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

:O Why?!? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:29, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

One thing, remember to resist the urge to go oppose bashing, (which is our national sport according to Wehwalt on Cam's RfA. Responses in the discussion section to legitimate criticism like you have done is excellent. -MBK₀₀₄ 04:53, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool - did something right! ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Best wishes for your RFA -- Tinu Cherian - 05:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: Schoolwork + new year of piano = chaos. :) Handfuls of upcoming competitions, exams, and stuff. My piano prof may be the coolest guy in town, but he doesn't leave time for me to breathe! And he does that intentionally - he told me so. :P So I'll be around only weekends, or maybe a few mins late a night if I can. That's all I can spare for now.

Hope everything goes well! Good night/morning/afternoon/evening to all of you. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Ouch, that is no fun. :/ I'll see you around though, I'm sure :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:33, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Going good right now, Ed! Good luck with it! But man, you haven't participated in XFDs? What the hell? I don't think some people would take very kindly to that. Chamal ^talk 12:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I know you're probably a little down and out right now seeing how your RfA is progressing, but it might be best to look at it in the following way: You are receiving lots of advice and constructive criticism, and one of your nominators (Tom) had two RfAs before succeeding in his third. Your time may not be now but it will come. -MBK₀₀₄ 17:41, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm with MBK. Besides, I think the chances are even better for a candidate the second/third time around. See, if you show how positively you can take constructive criticism and use it to mold yourself into a better admin candidate, you've shown the community more evidence of how ready you are for adminship. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 19:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

(going out the door right now) Thanks for the support, everyone...it means a lot. If it even had a chance after my stupidity in answering the PPOL questions, I royally screwed myself by just answering Koji's bait, I think. :)

But yes, both of you are entirely right. I see a few "you shouldn't have to wait 6 months" opposes/neutrals, so I can't be too far off; with the advice I'm getting, I should be able to get through my next RfA, I would think.

The only things that puzzle me are the (a) civility issues (when have I been really incivil?) and (b) the signature opposes. Otherwise, I can take the rest and try to improve my editing. Cheers everyone! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree on that - the civility part. Even when I was certain I had pushed you too far, you just don't explode. Arg. So good, you're bad. ;P

And, though perhaps your sig is hard to read for some of the hard-of-seeing folks (or those without ClearType installed), perhaps you might consider changing it if it's a concern. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 00:38, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah...I guess that I probably should. :) I don't have time to play with fonts right now though; too many articles to work on. Maybe when I go back to college this weekend... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:41, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Apparently going to college is going to make you less busy, huh? Icy // ♫ 01:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, yes. :) (or at least that was true for last semester...) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Your Rfa[edit]

Ed, I am going to be blunt. I do not think you are ready for adminship, so I have opposed.

NOT!

You've been a great adopter and I can see from the tally now that it is most probably going to pass. Remember me talking about you going for adminship in October? (Chit Chat Part 4) You said you weren't ready back then and I sort of forgot about it. Anyway good luck- I'm sure you will succeed! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 21:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that was awhile back. :) I woulda have been ripped to shreds then though...look what is happening now! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, leave it a few months, do lots of admin stuff and almost all the opposer's will support. You'll do it! (What do you think of it now? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 22:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully. :) It's looking a lot better, Ollie! Good job! (Maybe consider splitting it to "Railroads in Buckinghamshire"? I dunno...) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:57, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Indeed - great job! I'm always baffled by the magic you article-builders can work...

And, Ed... <span-style="text-decoration:blink;"><3. <British romance-novel accent>You try my reserve. I simply cannot...*leans back, near fainting*...why, I must support myself, I simply cannot bear it...Ah! ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Then get to work article-building yourself,you busy kid. :) You'll be less amazed. :P

I try! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll think about it. All the articles I want to write are about pieces that have hardly enough sources to be notable...and Google searches are fruitless. -_- —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:10, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Ouch. Libraries are no help?

Saw that you are going out. Good luck with your piano! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Non. The local library just has old movies and romance novels... the only decent one is downtown, and I don't expect Mom to take hours out of her busy day to drive me there. >.>

Yep. Bai! Listen to this and think of me. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Google Books no help either? Ew, what are you trying to write about? :P

Doing... :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

If I was to split the article into Railways in Buckinghamshire, what would I do with the railway section in the current transport page? Could I get two GA's! By the way, quadrupling refers to laying two more tracks next to the existing two tracks to give a four-track layout (for fast and slow trains). I've added a link so you can find out about it. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 13:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: My pr0n Clean link, really...and ja, not much, but it's the only one in English. -_-

Actually, I was still thinking about that La Plus Que Lente by Debussy. There's even media for it at Commons. I think Google books is a good idea (why didn't I think of that?) I'll get to it when I can. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

(out, @ Ollie) - Summarize the the railway article in that section, and add a {{main}} tag to the top of that section.
(@ Pianista) - Remember to search on "limited and full preview only" :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do on the weekend. Thanks, sweetie pie! ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Aw, you're welcome. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

ACR of Dreadnought[edit]

Hi there Ed, would it be possible for you to revisit the A-Class review of Dreadnought? I also suggest a liberal use of {{hidden}} ;)! Thanks and best regards, Woody (talk) 00:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello Woody! I'll do it now...and fine, I'll try to use the template. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:34, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Did You Know problem[edit]

Hello! Your submission of 12"/50 caliber Mark 8 gun at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Art LaPella (talk) 05:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:USS New Jersey[edit]

Sorry, I forgot I logged out when I went to tweak those figures. Thanks for the message, otherwise I wouldn't have known I was editing anonymously. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahaha wow. =/ I guess that I should've checked the ref and not trusted you blindly, eh? :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

No, you made the right descion. Its always better to correct and find out you were wrong than not correct and find out that what the other guy added was misinformation. I was converting the range for the guns since Cla68 pointed out that only USS Iowa ever fired a gun out to 24 nautical miles. After thinking about it, his point made sense: all the battleships should state 20 miles since that was the standard distance a 16-in shell was fired out to, with Iowa's record setting shot noted separately. TomStar81 (Talk) 06:06, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Yamato-class[edit]

You are correct that it is an extremely interesting topic (I'm aiming for an eventual FT). My sources are excellent in that they cover pretty much everything. That said, the articles on the individual ships (Yamato and Musashi) need sources with regards to their construction process (the one thing none of my sources touch on in great detail). If you have sources that cover that bit of the class, assistance in those areas would be GREATLY appreciated. Cam ^(Chat) 06:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't have sources like that (U.S. battleships and Conway's 1906-1921 only). =/ I could help with c/e'ing, common sense checking, and a background of the "treaty battleships". However, if I remember right, wasn't the construction of those ships some of the most secretive ever? I don't know if many sources, if any, will cover anything. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:51, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Well there are sources out there (since the info was uncited before). If anything, I bet Cla68 has access to some excellent Japanese resources—I already signed him on to this thing, so you're not the first to be press-ganged into this project. Full speed ahead (which, for the Yamatos, means 27 knots;) Cam ^(Chat) 06:58, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL wow...I'm glad that my RL friends don't look at this...they'd remark on how much of a nerd I am.

Anyway, sounds good! ...tomorrow. I'm tired. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright (I was about to ask why you were still up at 2:00AM your time?) Cam ^(Chat) 07:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:GAN#VGAMES[edit]

Could you please review this for WP:GAN? Thanks!--What!?Why?Who? (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm going out the door now (going to a friend's house to say goodbye to her before she goes off to a downstate college while I stay up here), but I will review it when I get on tonight. Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:26, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

OK Then, Have a good evening and Happy Editing!What!?Why?Who? (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Take as long as you need in reviewing. There's no hurry. Jolly Ω Janner 18:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry. Should have waited...I just traveled back to college today. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey hey! :) Now you can use Wikipedia without going undercover. Niiice. I have to be secretive most of the time... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:39, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I found that I get wi-fi in my room... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I knew that. But at least you won't have someone inadvertently burst in and discover your secret addiction. :O —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:42, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And, btw - here it is! My first real article - of course, it's only one sentence and two refs, but it's still something in the making. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:44, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

About time... Show its notability before someone nukes it. Chamal ^talk 04:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Eh...I think that "under construction" tag takes care of it. I hope. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, just fooling around. Already has two good refs so no danger of it getting nuked. Chamal ^talk 04:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

(4 e/c's) No, I think that my mom has gotten used to my addiction... :/

Congrats! finally... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:57, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c - what, you got four? Slow fingers. And for the record, that's what I said. :P ) And who said Chamal wasn't evil? Yeesh. And your edit summary nearly scared the living daylights outta me, pal. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:59, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And, btw, what is all this talk of finally? Is my sudden usefulness such an unsettling shock? :O —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

(out_ Yep, it is. Yeah RIGHT! You and Icy's c/e'ing on Alaska-class cruiser is helping it get through it's FAC easily (so far)! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:09, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Now, now, don't get too excited, dear, I know how my moves you feel, but you've forgotten a </small> tag. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah, it was allll your fault. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I suppose it was. And perhaps there isn't anything I can do to reverse the damage; I can only make it worse. ;} —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Stay away from me. :D :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

And you know that is just the thing to say to make me want to do the opposite. What, you thought I was a wuss who needed emoticons to tell her you were joking? :D :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Get back to work now... like nice little children

Chamal ^talk 05:31, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Doing... - Yes, dearest Uncle Chamal. I can has cookie, nao? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

What the... Jolly Ω Janner 01:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Haha, what? Oh, and that article looks interesting, Pianista. Maybe I'll take a look at it ...these days, it seems like there's too much and too little to do. If that makes sense. Icy // ♫ 01:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't bother reading it — playing it's way better. Jolly Ω Janner 01:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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Pretty Please[edit]

Could you please copyedit this for me? I nominated it for FA and then another user told me on my talk page that it needed copyediting. Thank you, TopGearFreak 20:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Huh... looking through it, could you dab Stream of consciousness so it doesn't link to disambig? Icy // ♫ 21:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Dab? Disambig? WP:WOTTA? I'll do it, perhaps both, but I'm a little confused. (I a wee bit slow today.

) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I get it - in the article. I thought you wanted me to dab an invisible link there. :D I'll get to it. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

"After a few weeks at number 1, an alternate edit of the video was created. The most obvious....." there's a link to UK Youtube there, and I'm not sure if it's necessary... Icy // ♫ 22:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I've also listed a few concerns on the article's talk page - perhaps you should move some of yours there, too, Icy. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok then :) Icy // ♫ 23:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is a really long thread...on my talk page...and I haven't commented. The shame!

Anyway, I will help where I can, but it looks like Icy and Pianista have helped you in the c/e'ing department. :))) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

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Format Question[edit]

I need some help. I've been trying to use the approved formats like {{USS}} and {{Sclass}}. but every so often run into places where I can't figure out how to do it. I'm working on lead sections for Essex class carriers, and almost all of them have had several designations. You can see this well on the Franklin (CV-13) page. This ship was later classified as a CVA, then a CVS, and then as a AVT. I have used the "multiple quote" system because I didn't know how to do it correctly, but want to do it a better way if there is one. ThanksBusaccsb (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Either use the most common designations, or just go with a normal link (i.e. [[USS Shipname (ZZ-0)|USS Shipname (designations)]], I think... Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll play around with those. ThanksBusaccsb (talk) 07:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It's getting there...[edit]

I've re-named it Railways in Buckinghamshire as you suggested. It's looking quite good although I'm only up to 1900 in the history section! Any suggestions you have about it now will be very much appreciated if you've got the time. I know the intro needs some references, but that can wait! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 01:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

As long as the intro's information is contained and referenced in the main body of the article, no references are needed in it. :) I'll add suggestions when I can, but it is looking very good right now! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I've got most of it done. I'm up to 1900 and most of the English railway network opened before then. So just 100 empty years to write up as well as some modern stuff, (and a huge copy edit!) and it'll be done. Thanks again. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Of course! I didn't as much as I thought I would from that book becuase I don't know England's geography (place names, etc.), and it had much less history than I thought (it basically described the routes...only.) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It's all of use! Anything describing a route can be used so thanks for your help. I've used a few books I remembered I had on the London Underground as well.

Your RfA ends tomorrow morning (Or this evening to you!) My earlier optimism will carry on to your next one should it fail (as I think it will, unfortunately). But never mind, you'll do fine next time. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:21, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, well next time I go home I will ping you and ask for help on London geography (I left the book @ home). Do you know how to use IRC? (IM'ing would be a LOT easier than back and forth Wikipedia edits)

Oh yeah it's gonna fail unless I get a support spree from some random place (fat chance). :))) O well; it doesn't affect my article-writing, so it's all good! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:25, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Do you want me to make 20 socks and make them all support you? I'll do it if you want. I am being serious- I won't be caught. (I AM JOKING BY THE WAY. FOR ANYONE WITHOUT A SENSE OF HUMOUR, I AM NOT GOING TO CREATE ANY SOCK-PUPPETS!) Just in case.

I've heard about IRC but I don't really know what it is. Can you help? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:36, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol save it for WP:EfD, pal. :D

Go to http://www.mibbit.com/chat/. Type in your name under "nick" (Delete the name that's already in there). Under channel type "#channel you want" (for example, #wikipedia-en-milhist). From the dropdown "IRC" menu at the top select "Freenode" (That's the server the wikipedia channels are on). Then click go and viola, you're in the channel and can start typing. Thanks to Patton for this —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Are you on it now? Can you type something! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I will be on later - have to go for now. =/ Jon Catalan should be on the milhist channel though... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:49, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Is that the channel you use? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Yeah lol :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Have a nice dinner? I've made this diagram showing the railways of Buckinghamshire in 1906. Is it suitable for inclusion in the article? I'll try the IRC now. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Where did you get the information that you used for the diagram? (you need (a) source(s)....like refs in an article) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It's pieced together from the text and my personal geographical knowledge. Can I use the same sources as the main body of text? Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 00:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

What about this. It's from 1961 when some of the network had closed but most of it is there. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 01:40, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, perhaps it would be better to put Railways in Buckinghamshire at the top of your 'Current projects' section of your userpage- that's the one I'm working on! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 23:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

12"/50 caliber Mark 8 gun[edit]

Just a heads up, this article doesn't have an infobox. There is one that is applicable, see the talk page where I put forth the suggestion. Most of the British naval guns have infoboxes but the American ones don't currently. I think I've mentioned it on the talk pages of those that lack it. Perhaps that is something you would be so inclined to fixing? -MBK₀₀₄ 20:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll start on it after dinner. :) Also, apologies for missing your inquiry on the talk page - I've been on and off quickly lately, and must have missed it on my watchlist. =/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I added one to Mark 8; they are rather annoying (why couldn't these guns just use one shell? ;) J/k, but you get my point. :)

Your RfA[edit]

I'm sorry, but I've closed your RfA as No Consensus.

However, the bulk of the opposition to your RfA rested on the fact that many people didn't feel you had quite enough experience with admin-related areas. I have very little doubt that, given a few months of additional work in those areas, my next "Your RfA" message will be totally different. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks EVula; I knew that it was going to go that way for a bit anyway with the large number of opposes!

...and yet more thanks for the inspiring message, friend. :) Cheers, —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Take the oppositions points to heart and see if you can get more active in admin-related work, and in...oh say April or May - if you would still like to be an admin - I will renominate you. You have the skills and the brains to be an admin, if you can address a few of the oppositions problems then you should pass the next rfa. TomStar81 (Talk) 05:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I will try, but no guarantees...I <3 my article work a lot. :) Also Tom, could you look here at the bottom? I replied to you :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:31, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c × 2) Yep. And I will most certainly be there, whenev. :) Don't feel like you have to run again if you don't want to, though. I've seen too many users simply retire after adminship, since, I think, they felt obligated to the wiki. And, if I may add, obligation is the direct enemy of the 'holism. It's human nature - you'll love to do something until it becomes your job. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys :) I once felt like I had no friends whether in RL or online (well, to be fair, at that point I had no internet access); now I feel like I have too many! I'm totally, completely and utterly blessed to have people like my RL friends and you guys on here, even though I don't know your full identities :))) I don't think that I even could be depressed right now... :D Thank you all so very much, —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:39, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

You're very welcome. I luv ma peeps (which, unfortunately, includes you), too. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

"unfortunately"? I'm hurt. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately for you, I mean. How sad it is to be bound to a lady always sky high on some mysterious piano-related rocks; with a sassy, coquettish attitude, finishing approximately 75% of her posts with a raspberry (:P); and who is willing to destroy anything that gets in the way of her passionate klavierlust, even if it means her other lust? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:47, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense now. The only thing I see that might be wrong there is the percentage; I'd go to 35% :P, 25% :D, and 10% :D :D :D. (Yes, I know that pianos < than me. =]) Anyway...g'nite everyone. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Just as an aside, I totally agree with La Pianista; as much as I'd love to see us gain another content-savvy administrator, it does often come at the expense of content work. I've been fairly fortunate that, even after my sysop and 'crat flags, a full 1/3rd of my edit count is in the main article namespace.
Regardless of what you do, however, have fun. If that means focusing on just article work and not submitting an RfA, so be it; your well-being should never be placed second to a website's needs. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:50, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that is lucky. :) Well, I wasn't going through RfA to become a full-time admin; it was to help people who needed it every once in awhile at WT:MILHIST, WT:NOVELS and here. Maybe I'll go through it again in a few months, and maybe not. W/e...it is not a big deal to me at all (it's an aside or a side note). :D Thanks EVula! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:54, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

It's up to you, but if you'd like for me or any of the people who do a lot of nominating at RFA to peek over your shoulder a few times over the next 3 months, it's very likely you can pass an RFA 3 months from now. There's no need for you to change your focus, your focus is fine; just learn a little and participate a little in a few new areas that interest you. Best of luck and continued success at MILHIST. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 16:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, ah, sure? I think that I might participate more at AfD and maybe AN/I. Thanks Dan; it means a lot. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I toolllllddd youuuu soooooo!!!! Okay, screw that. I couldn't help it. -cackle- Anyways, I'm sorry. I really disagreed with some of the opposers. But some of them had points, and those are the ones you should listen to. Ja. Icy // ♫ 21:22, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL I was waiting for something like this... :) Thanks Icy, <3 ya as always (:D), —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry your RfA failed. There's always next time, though! And it's definitely time to archive... your page is 126 kilobytes long! :) Little Mountain 5 00:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep, same idea here. Apart from the signature, civility stuff, I guess the opposes did have a point. I hope there will be a next time? Chamal ^talk 00:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Eventually maybe probably. :)

(@civility) Did anyone else see what Wehwalt but here? Slightly hypocritical, IMHO, but... I shouldn't complain much. Someone will oppose me next time around.... Yes, I may be a little annoyed about the civility opposes... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:48, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry - I share your...(is this the right word?) "civil"...annoyance. I mean, even the most pious and cool-headed people say regrettable things every once in a while.

Just be glad that a great many folks out there think you'll stand a chance if you try again. Mind! I'm not badgering you into doing it - just letting you know that if you try again in a few months, after a bit more experience in adminly areas, the weather will be in your favor. Mah too pennyz. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:12, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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LOL you guys are both dorks. WSC, I'm relaxed; it wasn't a big deal to me, though I did like some of the positive comments I got (I'm addicted to positive reinforcement now! :O)

Eco, I'm disappointed - I don't see the word "queue" in that. ;D Anyway, thanks for the support guys :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:14, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for 12"/50 caliber Mark 8 gun[edit]

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Gatoclass (talk) 16:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Ed, I've got a question about the 12"/50: do you have a figure for muzzle velocity? That might be a helpful bit of information, if you can dig it up (compare with BL 12 inch Mk XI - XII naval gun). Parsecboy (talk) 17:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

See here, middle of the page. Which one of the six? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:07, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I would probably use the numbers for the full charge on both the AP and HC shells in the infobox, but you could quite easily include all 6 figures in the text. Maybe something like "The gun could be loaded with both AP and HC shells, and could use several different propellant loads...The standard full charge produced...while the reduced flashless charge propelled the AP shell at...and the HC shell..." Parsecboy (talk) 17:14, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright; I will add that to the article in about 3 hours...after my classes, when I get back to my room. ;) (in class now :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I s'pose I could've done it myself, but I too need to dash off to class. History of the Roman Republic: good times. Parsecboy (talk) 17:26, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

That sounds like a fun class! :) I will probably get around to this eventually, but look at The Land's thread below for why I can't now. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:22, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations![edit]

		The Milhist A-Class medal
		For prolific work on – USS Nevada (BB-36), Alaska class cruiser and Lexington class battlecruiser – promoted to A-Class between October and December 2008, by order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, you are hereby awarded the Milhist A-Class medal. -MBK₀₀₄ 20:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

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Poke, I assume you haven't gotten around to upgrading your userspace much. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:43, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL no, been concentrating on articles... ;) I really should eventually, per this and comments by Townlake in my RfA... :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Dreadnought/Delaware[edit]

I think you were going to add something to Dreadnought about the Delawares? The Land (talk) 21:06, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh, yes I did...sorry for forgetting.

Doing... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:21, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Done, hope you like it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:YCB[edit]

I've addressed your comments at the ACR of the Yamato class. Would you be able to take another look for me? Cam ^(Chat) 05:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

World at War GA review[edit]

Since you say you're not too familar with GA reviews for video games, I've taken the liberty of adding some extra comments to the review, relating to firstly the plot summary (11 paragraphs and 1,500 words of plot summary isn't considered concise) and the development section. Be sure to check them out. -- Sabre (talk) 15:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! I replied there. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

italics[edit]

See edit summary :P ...they looked a little odd when I scanned the article. Or were they supposed to be like that? -confuzzled- Icy // ♫ 22:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

No, they aren't. "Admiral", "G3" and "N3" were not the names of any ships in the class. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Riiight. I'm screwing up a lot this week >.> Icy // ♫ 22:42, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

No, no, no. I didn't know that either until I started italicizing them :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:47, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

lol, fail. I need an in-depth read of everything MoS sometime ...maybe schedule an hour this weekend. Icy // ♫ 22:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Here you go: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Guidelines, the guidelines for ship articles. The naming conventions are linked in there. A useful thing to bookmark for future reference. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:53, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Right, thanks, MBK. That'll be useful. :) Icy // ♫ 22:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I probably should read that too.... ;) Thanks MBK!

And Icy? Just an hour? Maybe a couple of days. ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Awww, great ....... Icy // ♫ 22:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Me thinks that Icy is acquiring an interest in naval history... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:03, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

And I would, too, if I haveth the time... -_-

Hope the ships and cruisers are coming well for ya, guys! :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Awww poor Pianista... :(

...but it's battleships and battlecruisers...get it right. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:13, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

My talk page[edit]

More like an epic fail. :( –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 20:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Or, maybe I've gone rouge... –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 21:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't leave yet[edit]

Since I am about to ping you, and this is about your bedtime. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not going to. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

All right, pinged. Friday nights are awesome, eh? ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

They are lovely. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:04, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Not if it's 40 degrees here, making my toes feel as if to fall off. I was born in Texas for a reason, why make my life like a Northerner? *shivers* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

School (college, mind you) was canceled due to cold here today and yesterday. Stop complaining. (It has to be less than, like, -30 out (with wind chill) to be canceled for that...) :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:16, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Oo, heard about that. But Texans weren't made for this - 40 this side of the zero is pretty much as cold as it would be for...normal folks on the other side. Every year, we live through 100+ degrees, sometimes lasting for several days straight, so heat is in our nature. Snow is huge news. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

And in case you missed, "ping." I mentioned it on my other page, but I don't know which way is protocol...*voice drifts off* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

A nice snow shower is hitting me tomorrow...

Got it. Replying... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:36, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you easterners and southerners think 40 Fahrenheit is cold....you don't know how lucky you are. There's 2 feet of snow in Calgary, sitting at just over 30 Fahrenheit (below freezing)....stop complaining. Cam ^(Chat) 06:56, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty, we'll see if you two can stand 110 degrees in the summer, not to mention in a car that's been sitting in the parking lot for two hours. And PING, likewise. Took me a while - I kinda got carried away. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Negative 40 isn't cold? And I've got a lot of snow here too, Cam. :)
Will check, Pianista. And no thanks - I like my U.P. summers, thank you. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:03, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

27 °C (81 °F) all year long here. Gets pretty boring sometimes. You're lucky to have a bit of variety ;D Chamal ^talk 07:08, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

...81 sounds good. I'd be able to play tennis all year... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) That's the amazing thing about Texas. Just a few days ago, we had highs in the upper 70 °F (21 °C)s, and now we've fallen down to the forties. Highly unpredictable here. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoops, and ping-pong. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

(DYK) ... that it is currently warmer in Alaska then it is here?

DdDdDoOoOoNnNnNgGgGgGgG. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Ting. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

...

BBBBBBBLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNN —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Wah-wah-warlh-wah. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll reply, then bed. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Good night, pal! And to everyone else, too.

—La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

You guys have it easy... it gets down into the teens in the winter here (in fact, it's 14 at my house right now), and then we usually have nearly a month over 100 degrees in the summer! Little Mountain 5 16:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcomings[edit]

After tripping over your lighting fingers twice, I'll leave you to do them :) Keep up the good work, dude! --ROGER DAVIES ^talk 19:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh :) Thanks! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 19:44, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

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Military History Project[edit]

Hello! I just joined Wikipedia and I would like to help with your articles on military history. How do I get started? Is there anything that needs special attention? Thank you. Pastor Theo (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Take a look here. There are a few useful links to help get you started...check out the bottom part for sure (the "Practical tutorial in editing Wikipedia") - that will help you the most. Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Pastor Theo (talk) 02:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the links. I also asked your friend downstairs about that project -- I didn't want that person to feel left out. LOL. Pastor Theo (talk) 02:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

You are most welcome. And I saw that....you're too kind to her. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. For some reason, all the guys on here (and most of them off here) are magnetized to me. Say... And this is all just for kicks and giggles, in case anyone is taking this seriously. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Aw shucks! MILHIST rules! OK, forget that. Chamal ^talk 02:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

TEXAS rules! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Your MOM rules. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

No no, MILHIST rules! And that too... Chamal ^talk 02:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Well....I gotta go with Chamal on this one then. Sorry Pianista.... :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Your FACE rules. Wait, did I just compliment you? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Ah, thanks! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Really? Then I take it back. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

When was the last time people asked me for help at WP:CM? Oh yeah, it was...never. -_-
Enjoy it, Ed - you'll get whacked the next time you try to undermine your usefulness or say you're good-for-nothing. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

And...sorry to bother you, and to butt into a conversation that has nothing to do with me, but I've waited for too long - hast thou forgotten? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Well? Get moving! Read it, or else...ah...or else you can't have me. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I will, I will. Sorry pal :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, since you're pointing to your classroom page, can you guess when my adoption sub-page was last edited? No? It was the 26th October! What sort of adopter are you?!! Can I graduate now BTW? I've done almost all of those tasks! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey now. Only one attacker at a time - let me torture Ed for a while, and while he recuperates, you'll have your turn, Ollie. Now sit down and wait...like a good boy. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:44, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(@ Ollie) - review an article at WP:PR or WP:GAN. ;D Just kidding - you've done better than I dreamed you would. :)

(@ Pianista) - .................... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What! Am I the adoptee of your dreams? I hope not- what would your girlfriend say! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Awwwwwwwww! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(ah e/c's) ...

Lol not really, Ollie. :) And I broke up with my gf. :P

No, I wasn't really expecting much out of you becuase you were so new...but you did WAY better than I hoped.

(after) lol yep. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c × 2) So? Comment already. Do it. Nao. ;P Actually, if you don't have the time...I can just sit here in the cold, you know. Alone. With no one to protect me. And, since it, like, takes forever to post a three-sentence comment... ;P

(after) Awwww. Cuuuute. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:54, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I remember the gf thing (when was it?) but I thought you might have another. (I'm talking of women (girls) like they are objects aren't I?!) Very bad of me. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 02:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

A couple/three weeks ago. :) ...and LOL don't feel bad - I'm over it now. :D

(@ Pianista) - I might. I also might be too lazy too. :P I did read about half of it though! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ollie: Don't worry. I know lots of girls that melt like Jell-O at any "I wuv you" they get. They might as well be objects - too much wishbone and not enough backbone, as we Texans say.

@ Ed: Eh. I'd only be able to read half of a MILHIST blog...if there is one out there. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Yeah, one about piano pieces isn't the most interesting to me...but you were able to make it much better than terrible, so thanks for that. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

"Better than terrible?" That's comforting. :)

Actually, I'm not holding a grudge. Once, I showed Mom a clip of Barenboim playing some Beethoven. It was the Hammerklavier Sonata, performed beautifully, with amazing strokes of genius and virtuosity. What does she say? "Ooh, he needs a manicure."

I'm not kidding. She actually said that. -_- —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

"I wuv you, Miss Pianista". Are you going to melt!

Ed, you adopted me on 26th September 2008. That's four months ago! I just though I'd remind you of this. I think you were quite excited to overcome the problem of my userpage back in October. It's remained almost the same since. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 03:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to provoke Anglo-American cultural differences now. Pianista, I think you mean jelly! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 03:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL!

Yes, I was very excited...that took me a lot of trial and error. :)

Jello, Ollie. Read all about it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Um...no. To be honest...here, I'll count them:

Danny, Zach, Ben, Eric, Adam, John, another John, a James, and the kid down the street have said that to me in the last three years. I've gotten a little callus.

No, Jell-O, the only brand. Good for the nails. ;)

(after) What the man said. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

You mis-understand me. Over here, all so called gelatin desserts are known as jelly. The jelly you have is called jam here. Don't ask for some jelly in England- you'll get totally confused! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 03:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

User page stalking?[edit]

My...uh..talk page stalking has spilled over to your user page, and I couldn't help myself from starting this. Now that it's been started, you don't have an excuse. Now get to work :p Parsecboy (talk) 04:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

...

Fine. :) Of course, you used the reference that I have on hand, so now I actually have to do work and look for more info. ;) Thanks! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:58, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Who would think I was going to make it easy on you? Parsecboy (talk) 05:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Nate, you should enter that at WP:MILCON, it is an instant 6 points for the month. -MBK₀₀₄ 05:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c, @ Parsec) Well...maybe. Or maybe I didn't think that anyone even looked at that list and would create it for me. :D

(after) I agree with MBK. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(ec x 2)Copied? I should think not: I used that (apparently incorrect) format for at least 6 months :p Parsecboy (talk) 05:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL fine :) Did Google Books screw you up too? Budze-whatever was only the first of many "contributors"; Gardiner was the "editorial director" while Gray was the "Editor". —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(ec) Yeah, I was using the online version for a while before I finally broke down and got a hardcopy. I should probably go fix the entries in the articles I've used Conways...

As for MBK's suggestion: done. Now we just need to get it up to FA in the next 12 days, right? Parsecboy (talk) 05:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll willingly participate in that. That would be a lot of fun...the problem, of course, is that there is no DANFS for IJN ships. :) 05:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, and I'm not finding a whole lot in Google books at the moment (at least any more than what we've already got from Conways...Parsecboy (talk) 05:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Nate, you messed up with the contest a little bit. The article status thing it asked for was the status of the article at the beginning of the month (in this case none) therefore the 6 points I mentioned is what you will get for taking a red-link to B-Class. To get more, you have 12 days to pass an ACR (GA is the same point-level as B). -MBK₀₀₄ 05:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see (never participated there before, as you can probably tell :) We'll see about getting it to A-class in the next 12 days. Parsecboy (talk) 05:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead and nom it right now if you want; we can always keep expanding it while the ACR is open. We'll see...maybe we can find more, maybe not. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

K, I've found a few sources...I'll see what I can do.

Would anyone know if bobhenneman.info qualifies as a reliable source? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(ec) I'll think about it. I'd like to get more info on the guns (muzzle velocity, ranges, number of shells per gun, you know, the works), but I was disappointed to see that Conways doesn't have a table of information for Japanese guns like it does for the Germans. It'll have to wait for now, as it's time for my beauty sleep :) Parsecboy (talk) 05:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

As for the website, some of the info for armor contradicts what's in Conways. I don't know about the rest. Parsecboy (talk) 05:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c)Right here. :D

If you get that, I'll hunt for more design info and history. :)

(after) Never mind then. Thanks! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the navweaps stuff tomorrow, I really need to back away from the keyboard :) Parsecboy (talk) 05:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL alright, get to bed. :) (I really should go to bed too...) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

You guys should submit that for a DYK too. Little Mountain 5 16:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

One of us will get to it. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(Out) I nommed it at DYK, I think correctly. Will you take a look for me? Parsecboy (talk) 01:51, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Doing... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Done - take a look. I added me too, because I'm doing a "Background" section...hope you don't mind. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me. And I don't mind at all you adding yourself, you've done a significant amount of the work on the article :) Parsecboy (talk) 02:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Attacks[edit]

I reverted an edit to User talk:Possum. ...but what now? It included a phone number and I've heard of recent harassment to this user. What should I do? Thanks. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I didn't even look at it; talk to someone with oversight right away. Good thinking, Ollie. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

WAIT. This link: Wikipedia:Requests for oversight—e-mail the diff to someone. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I saw your response. I asked Rlevse and it was done. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol well, "WAIT" in caps was probably a little much...but IMHO, it would be better to e0mail the diff, and then follow-up immediately with a "ping" on the user's talkpage. Good job, Ollie! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

The IP's been blocked. What absolute bastards. Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 20:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. More people confusing work on WP with RL. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Me again[edit]

Hi Ed. I've another question for you. How can I cite a television (DVD actually) documentary? It'd be useful for the railways! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 21:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

See {{cite video}}. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I did that. After asking, I thought why not look for myself! So I looked at the list here. No more bothering Ed with simple questions for me! Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 21:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

No, keep it up - I have a feeling he likes being bothered. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't that be 'I like to see him being bothered!', Miss Pianista? Don't worry, Ed will still be my first call for help- he knows everything (or at least everything I ask him about!). Oliver Fury, Esq. message • contributions 21:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahaha you are getting the hang of how to deal with Pianista, Ollie—prod her enough to make her indignant, and then the fun begins... :P Love ya Pianista! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:22, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

So let me see...dealing me has to do with cruelly working up my nerves, and then jest of it? Shame shame... Same here, to all of ya. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

And isn't that a bit...of a misuse of a perfectly good lady? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Never! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Always. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL well played. :) Now go Huggle - you don't seem to have done that in a long while (:P) ... and I have some work to do. =/ Sorry.... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

So have I, with LPQL and c/e-ing some of those battleships and battlecruisers. ;)

But I'll keep stalking your contribs...and I know you'll be stalking mine likewise. See ya, luv y'all to death. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

kk lol :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to bother ya (again) but thought I'd remind you to let me know whenever you're finished with the Amagi and Texas. I don't see the point in copy-editing a half-finished article, so whenever you've satiated it with content (:D) I'll be ready to c/e.

—La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't be sorry - it's nice to take breaks (doing more reading than writing at the moment...)!

And I will. :) Amagi-class battlecrusier is about 75-80% done, IMO. There are just not many sources on it anywhere... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah? Well, good luck with those! It's all Greek to me. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Good luck, too :) I would help, but the local library (and school, for that matter >.>) is just pathetic, and I'm already having enough trouble with my clouds ... so much info about TORNADOES! (gasp!) and HURRICANES! (gasp!) ...which are all featured articles >.> Any~ways, good luck again, and don't mind me ranting. Icy // ♫ 01:26, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL well trust me, if I was still at home, I'd be in the same spot as you, ranting away...my college library sucks with modern milhist (though it has a complete record of all Civil War dispatches, I think), but it is 100 times better than home. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Dreadnought[edit]

Are you still neutral? hint, hint The Land (talk) 21:30, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the poke. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Heads up[edit]

Tom and myself are gearing up for a run to FAC with USS Texas (BB-35), to begin with an ACR within 24 hours. Thought you might like to help out. See these two places: User_talk:MBK004#USS_Texas_Peer_Review and User_talk:TomStar81#Texas_Peer_Review -MBK₀₀₄ 21:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I, ah, may have both of those...but I didn't want to butt in. Sure, I'll help! I've got my copy of Conway's and U.S. Battleships here at college, so I will cite the infobox to start. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Oooooh, another battleship, how pretty.... did someone mention talk page stalkers? The Land (talk) 22:31, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL yes, someone might have... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

We've got the footnotes mixed in with general notes, I think there is a way to separate them so there are two reflists, one with the notes and one with references. Can you fix that? -MBK₀₀₄ 01:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I think I've got it. You just have to use the <ref group=> template on the footnotes you want to separate. Parsecboy (talk) 01:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, as in <ref group=A>,<ref group=B>, etc. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:REFGROUP. Ahhh lovely TPS'ers... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yup, we do the work, so you don't have to! Parsecboy (talk) 01:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

And we love doing it almost as much as we do killing the germs, freshening the air, and disinfecting pet puddles. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahahahah you guys crack me up. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

TPSers of the same page think alike, my friend. It's in our blood; you can always count on us to come in as a team, armed with the Swiffers to get Glad. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hiya ed. We are now Operation Iron Resolve. Any help you or your friends can provide is welcome. TomStar81 (Talk) 02:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Link for added convenience: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/USS Texas (BB-35) -MBK₀₀₄ 03:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c, @ Tom) Where do you come up with these names? :) After I finish Amagi-class battlecruiser, I will be on it. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I think or operation names on the spur of the moment, based on some feature for the article in question :) Also, without having lifted a finger, you have contributed to the article: Your work on USS Nevada ID 4 features included in all subsequent US battleships, meaning that Texas was the last battleship not have such features. That could be worth noting in the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 03:15, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point. At the least, something about the armor scheme would definitely be worth mentioning, as it was obsolete by (probably) the 1930's! (I think that it is in U.S. Battleships) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

←You left a hidden comment in the D-Day section about the positions, have you taken a look at this list: List of Allied warships in the Normandy Landings, while unreferenced I have no reason to doubt it. -MBK₀₀₄ 06:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Poke, I leave the wording of this to you if you don't mind. -MBK₀₀₄ 18:44, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

There were so may other edits to this page that I missed this. I will try to get to it, but I have class soon and I have to work tonight... At the most, give me a poke tomorrow night. Thanks and cheers, —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Huggle[edit]

Don't you think it's time to figure out how to install that killa? I heard the bug's been fixed, so you might want to try again. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:34, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle is dead for me right now...I can't revert stuff using it. -_- And I have no idea what is wrong on my monobook page (riiight over my head)...so thanks, but no thanks. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I remembered you had trouble way back when, but I was just helpin' you git 'her done, ya know? But yeah, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It might be just that the light's on but ain't nobody home. Or, there's folks in the elevator, but it ain't goin' nowheres. But it's broke to an extent, shur. </Texanism to make u lulz> —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle works for me, see my monobook. Also, if you continue to have problems, you could un-install from the monobook and use the gadgets version, look in your preferences. -MBK₀₀₄ 04:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

And when you do get around to blanking your monobook (if that's what I gather you're about to do), make sure you bypass your cache both before and after making the changes; one after the blanking, the other after the copypaste. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:48, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

When I get around to it, I will do that. Thanks for the reminder (I had forgotten about the before part...)! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for reverting these [4] [5], Ed; you've definitely got my support vote in your next RfA. At least I now have my suspicions confirmed that he has been stalking my contributions, and how is one not possessive when they have 2,500 pages on their watchlist?! I only have 22! Well, thank you for all of your help, mate, I really appreciate it. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 04:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome; the Hotline is not a place for battle anyway. And how in heck do you have 22?!? I have 572 when I am trying to par it down! (Though all of the Shannara articles are still on there, I guess...but still.) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

No matter how much you pare it down, unless you take a clean-break, the watchlist will grow. I'm now over 8,000 pages (including redirects, redlinks, etc.) -MBK₀₀₄ 05:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol, I didn't intend to; I thought it was him posting comments on my talk and I was going to revert them. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Jesus! How do youse have so many?! I only watch my FAs, As, GAs and one or two other articles where I am the main contributor. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm watching almost every USN ship from WWI to the present, every person to have gone into space along with their missions, every battleship and aircraft carrier to ever be built, most ocean liners and cruise ships, over 100 project pages, and quite a few pages from the admin tool Special:Unwatchedpages. -MBK₀₀₄ 05:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Stalking?[edit]

"you are stalking". That's quite an accusation! On what do you base that accusation?

"And not helping Abe". No, perhaps not.

"This is a place to let off Wikistress". Yes, now that you have brought it to my attention, I can see that placing a response or defence on that page is somewhat contrary to the purpose of that page. Thank you.

However, it does not seem reasonable that one person can make a number of inaccurate statements and false accusations about another, and the other has no right of reply. I guess I'm still confused about what would be the appropriate way to respond. Can you offer any advice, or failing that, can you give me the benefit of your opinion?

Also, as a matter of education, (my education), how were you able to detect my edit, decide it was inappropriate, and revert it, all in less than 60 seconds from me hitting the save button?

Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

One re before bed, I guess. In order:

You were watching his contribs; how else did you get to that page?

(@ 2 and 3) Thank you for realizing those.

Just leave him alone there; we aren't passing judgment on you (or anyone), we are helping relieve Wikistress

A timely click of My Watchist and the ability to speed-read. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, obviously, he probably did check up the other person's contribs, but that's permitted of course, a lot of people when they get in a dispute with someone they look up the other person's list to see what moves they are making and if they need to respond. Obviously if someone criticises another, the subject of the criticism is likely to want to defend themselves, whether they are guilty or not, but this seems like something that has been blown out of proportion, I have only seen responsible and congenial editing from either both parties, apart the exchange on that hotline. I don't see any major editing conflicts except a disgreement over whether a "see also" is redundnant, and such a section doesn't add any POV shift or anything, it can only make a related topic more accessible (or not). Unless I missed something. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 05:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit conflict - written before the Yellow Monkey's contribution:

"how else did you get to that page?" - I have 2,500 pages on my watchlist. We have common interests. Of course I see some of his edits.

That particular page has been on my watchlist for over 12 months. (I have been known to make use of it myself.)

Let me assure you that I would crave having the available time to "stalk" him.

"Just leave him alone there; we aren't passing judgment on you" - Thank you for saying that. I don't expect you realise what a relief it is to me to read that. However, I'm afraid it doesn't feel like "we aren't passing judgment on you". I find being accused of stalking, and for that matter, many of those other things, extremely unpleasant, and yes, stressful.

So, thank you for that seemingly simple phrase; it has reduced my anxiety considerably.

When you have time, I would appreciate your response to my other requests, (but not before you go to bed).

Cheers, and sincere thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I am extremely uncomfortable with this assumption of my guilt!

Regarding: "Well, obviously, he probably did check up the other person's contribs,"

Why is it "obvious" that I checked the other person's contibutions? Particularly given that I didn't and haven't?

Also, I don't consider myself to be "in dispute" with him, particularly given that both Nick-D and Woody have expressed opinions that do not support his assertions.

"but this seems like something that has been blown out of proportion" - Yes, it does, doesn't it. That is neither my intention, nor my desire.

Well, I have let this waste far too much of my time. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't checked the history of that page to see that you have used it before. I guess it doesn't matter, because I don't regard it as a problem for someone to keep an eye on someone they've had a disagreement with. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 06:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps, but there's a big difference between "keep an eye on someone" (which I don't do, don't have an interest in doing, and certainly don't have time to do), and "stalking". Pdfpdf (talk) 06:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, like YellowMonkey, I didn't realize that you had actually posted there before. Shows what assuming will get me...

If this conversation continues here, let's just drop the stalking charges. There is no way to conclusively prove that you did or did not, especially with this revelation that you have posted there previously. My apologies over these allegations.

If disagreements arise in the future, can you guys agree to disagree and just try to avoid one another?

If that answer is no, feel free to talk over your differences, frustrations and complaints here if you both want an informal setting (I.e. not RfC or DR). Just do not let this degenerate into another "PoC/Roux v. G2Bambino" cage match.... Cheers, —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

new heading[edit]

"let's just drop the stalking charges" - Yes please.

(I have inserted a new sub-heading that does not include the "s" word.) Pdfpdf (talk) 21:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

However this "communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image" has been spread over a number of pages. I was under the impression that a basic tenant of our societies (well, Australia / Canada / New Zealand / United States / United Kingdom ) is that one is innocent until proven guilty.

I find myself in the position of being assumed to be guilty, without any proof or evidence, and being forced to go to great effort to demonstrate that these claims are false, are without any proof, and are without any evidence.

That seems unreasonable, and also seems contrary to my understanding of what WP is about.

Or am I being naive? Pdfpdf (talk) 21:39, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Pdfpdf, I screwed up and I'm very sorry that you are having to go through "great effort to demonstrate that these claims are false". It was not my intention. Now please go read WP:HORSEMEAT. Cheers, —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

That's a useful page to know about! (At times, I find WP:WONK useful too.)

And that's a second piece of good advice for which I must thank you. Pdfpdf (talk) 04:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

(BTW: I wasn't having a go at you personally; I was just generally whinging ... )

(@ small text) Well, I kinda figured, which is the only reason why I had that link in my reply...

(@ rest) Um, you are welcome? (out of everything you could have said, a "thank you" was not what I was expecting. :)) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

To quote a respected expert: "Shows what assuming will get me... " ;-) Pdfpdf (talk) 10:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I retract. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 02:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. (Appreciated.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 04:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Archiving[edit]

Greetings Ed17 and ED's TPSs, we have a little archiving bot problem at Talk:Large Hadron Collider, which I'm guessing that several regulars here could fix, anyone up for it? Were Spiel Chequers 11:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I saw the counter of the bot's configuration was at 4, and changed it to 8. Hope that didn't break anything else, and I've notified Misza13. (certified TPS) - Chamal ^talk 12:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

(@ Chamal) - Thanks Chamal; I wouldn't have known what to do with it. :)

(@ WSC) - Hahaha I'm starting to feel like Keeper back in the days of the Keeperpedia... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 16:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Seriously! 250 edits in a week! Little Mountain 5 16:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

o_O didn't know it was that much... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Haha. You're gettin' there ... Icy // ♫ 17:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

You're part of the problem, my dear...I don't want to hear any more laughs from you. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha </laugh> Icy // ♫ 01:01, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

*muttering* —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

If Icy's a big part of the problem, I'd say I'm about responsible for at least one-half. I say, my absorbing popularity and physical attractiveness just floods onto this page... :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:24, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

re:Moltke[edit]

Hi Ed, just saw your hidden question. It's "the fleet advance of 18-19 August". It makes sense to me (of course 'cause I wrote it), do you have any suggestions to make it more clear? Oh, and you can edit wiki while you're asleep? Parsecboy (talk) 18:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, I just nommed Moltke for GA (which is where you probably came across it, unless you were stalking my contribs :), and I saw that you had the Lexington class there too. I'm a little puzzled; doesn't A-class trump GA? Parsecboy (talk) 18:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) Hi Parsec. I don't really know. :) I will try to take a look late tonight or tomorrow (after class and after work).

I watch the WP:GAN page. :) And yes it does (in my book), but A-class does not count in WP:CUP. ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me re the Moltke. I take it WP:CUP doesn't use Wikiproject-related methods of assessment then. Parsecboy (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

A-Class is above GA in the projects that recognize it. Since most don't have ACR, GA is more widely accepted. -MBK₀₀₄ 19:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I guess I've just been in my WP:Ships/MILHIST bubble too much :) Parsecboy (talk) 19:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

I've got about a 35 min before work; we'll see if I can get to it between stuff on here and stuff in RL. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Done ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me, I'm not sure why I didn't think of that :) Parsecboy (talk) 01:43, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Ed. Moltke is at ACR now, if you wouldn't mind/have the time, could you take a look and comment/fix as you see fit? And that goes for the rest of Ed's TPSers too, if you're interested. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 22:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll get to it...I saw you add it. ;) Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Don't feel rushed or anything if you've got other things going on. Parsecboy (talk) 22:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol, just one thing on my plate. Once I finish that, I should be able to get around to reviewing. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I looked the ship up in DANFS and found that there are a number of photos of the ship in various stages of construction. Since they're all Navy images, I'll go ahead and upload them for the article (2 of them are already uploaded at Commons). Parsecboy (talk) 22:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! You won't be able to get the full sizes though...they are redoing the site or something like that. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem! I got three of them to open (the photo of the bow being fitted out, the bridge area, and the stack area), but the photo of the ship being launched "couldn't be found". Parsecboy (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that they are now getting the images back up, but they don't have all of them...it had something to do with the slow speed of the site. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Done, done, and done. I added the first photo to the article, perhaps the others should be placed in a gallery at the bottom? Parsecboy (talk) 23:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Whoa - they got more photos up since I ladt looked there, I think...but yeah, I guess. I dunno if I can get that article long enough to support 4 pics, so a gallery should be alright. Thanks a bunch! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Yeah, they update their stuff from time to time. I was hoping to get the photo of the launching to work, as that would have been a good one for the article (the bridge and stack photos are pretty similar) I'll go ahead and add the gallery at the bottom. Parsecboy (talk) 23:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter[edit]

Did You Know problem[edit]

Hello! Your submission of Amagi class battlecruiser at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Art LaPella (talk) 02:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Ed. I posted a shorter version (I'm less happy with it than the original, but hey). If you want to change it, feel free. Parsecboy (talk) 03:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Well, we can have longer hooks if we use more than one article...and considering that we would only have to expand an article's prose size 5x, Tosa-class battleship is looking mighty tasty...want to collaborate on one more article? ;)

So maybe a hook like "...... that the Amagi-class battlecruisers and Tosa-class battleships were slated to be scrapped according to the Washington Naval Treaty, but a special exception sought by the U.S. delegation saved both Kaga and Akagi, which (after conversions to aircraft carriers) later took part in the attack on Pearl Harbor?"—Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Count me in! I've got class here soon, until lunchtime, at which point I'll be back. I think this will actually work better than what we had originally, since the info is more complete. Good idea! Parsecboy (talk) 12:58, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I got a decent draft for the lead section, but I've got to run off to class now. I'll write up the design specs a la Amagi this afternoon. Parsecboy (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I should be able to start on it at about 1-2 EST, which is between one of my classes. At the latest, about 3 EST. :) Cheers! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 14:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Ed. I just nominated Amagi for GA, so you may want to keep an eye on Talk:Amagi class battlecruiser/GA1. Parsecboy (talk) 19:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm watching it. Shall we take it to all the way to FAC? I don't think that we would need more meat in the article becuase of the lack of information about these ships...(as in, lack of info on their BC configuration) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yamato[edit]

I've clarified some things, rewritten a few sentences, tweaked the overall format, and made some improvements. would you be able to check back in? Cam ^(Chat) 21:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Doing... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Done Good work, Cam! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:07, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

You forgot to list the article at WP:GA, if you don't a bot will remove {{GA}} from the talk page. Also, I've got some responses at the ACR for Texas. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:10, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I took care of that, the bot is kind-of quick about those things. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:16, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :) I don't think that I have ever done that before...I think that I might go check my old GA reviews quick. =/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It's called following the directions at WP:GAN, specifically #4 in the section on passing an article. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Lolol whoops. =/ Well, it looks like the ones I passed are on there, but I will do that from now on. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Can I take this opportunity to point out my comments on it here ;-) The Land (talk) 22:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

This was Yamato the ship, not Yamato the class. ;) Also, while I think that Cam might have to add more meat from another non-timeline reference for FAC (for the ship), I think that it is comprehensive enough for GA. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:00, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

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Ed gets cookies for no reason while I'm on reduced editing, working my butt off with Chopin and Brahms? :O :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:36, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Iowa task force[edit]

Per this edit: [6], thanks for joining but allow me the honor of being able to create the article so I can say that an article that I started made its way to FA. Please, it is most likely going to be only one of two FAs that I will be able to claim, Texas being the other. -MBK₀₀₄ 19:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright...It sounded like it would be an interesting topic to write, so I said that - but I would have wanted to collaborate regardless because you and Tom know so much more about the Iowa's (maybe I should have said that in my edit? Probably...)!

Anyway, have a good evening - I won't be on because I have to work 4 to close tonight, followed by studying for a Geography exam tomorrow...yay. :S —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Ed, when get the chance, could you review the gunfire support article and offer some suggestions on improvement? I'd like a third party opinion on that article so we can push it through to FA before the end of the year. TomStar810 (Talk) 23:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Of course! I'll get to it tomorrow or Friday; however, if it's Friday evening and it looks like I've forgotten, please give me a poke. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

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Copyedits[edit]

Hey, Ed. I'm craving some work, and my mind draws a blank trying to skim your talk page for projects. It's almost like making you read my blog - I honestly cannot discern one article reference from the other. Either you guys are getting incredibly smart, or I'm getting incredibly dumb...

So. Could you ping my page with a list of the stuff you want copyedited, and when you want them done? I'll probably be around this weekend, so expect some activity whenever I've gotten over da monstah, or taking a break. I'd prefer the list to be concise, but clumsy professions of love and additional, groveling attempts at wooing are accepted, perhaps as PS's and PSS's, for entertainment purposes. ;P Thanks, siempre mucho <3. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, what a lovely time to take a break from studying Geo-freakin-graphy...(and I am going back after this edit...)

Umm...USS Texas (BB-35) is going through A-class and eventually to FAC; it couls use a c/e though. :) ...but otherwise, I don't really have anything. Unless you feel like taking on Dreadnought...that's the only other one I can think of.

Love ya Pianista. ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget about United States Naval Gunfire Support debate. -MBK₀₀₄ 07:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

*facepalm* ... thanks MBK. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks! :)

"Love ya, Pianista"? Eh? Anyone can say that! I expected to start bawling, tears streaming from my eyes, with my sides like to burst from maniacal laughter... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:56, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Have fun going ~~berserk~~ on a spree with those.

You are the most amazing individual I have never seen. (better? Now I'm going to bed. :)) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I can go berserk any time you like. ka-POW!

Ah. 'Tis my cold-blooded, murderous disposition, I see.

And good night! 'Til whenever I feel in the mood for a ~~killing~~ gnoming spree. ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

And regarding this...I suppose I'm warming up to MILHIST, since I see boredom in the far off horizon, if there at all. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

And regarding this...

+ raspberry + slap to yo mama. Ciao! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh. Congrats, Ed. And thanks for the recommendation to Google books - not bad, from what I've flipped through. Icy // ♫ 01:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

...stalker... :O

But thanks! Do you feel like reviewing any of mine? I've got three there to pick from. ;D

And no problem - I've used it myself before...a lot. (See Alaska class cruiser#Bibliography) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

(<-) Guilty as accused. But not like you're innocent, either. Maybe - like I said, I'll be quite dead once I survive tomorrow. I've been feeling less confident in my c/e'ing skills lately - but if I have time I might look. I'm trying to ~~hack at~~ freshen up the Nimbostratus draft dying in my userspace for now :) Icy // ♫ 01:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, it's not a big deal! I was just ... *looks around for other people* ... canvassing.

Nice beginning draft.....but I don't understand half of it lol! :P (ignore this if the article is supposed to be that way per WP:INSERTPOLICYHERE or how there are no common words for the cloud-related stuff!) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Jargon? I'm no professional. Actually, sometimes I don't understand half of what I'm writing in that area ... I know, that's so "-sweatdrop-". It did take me months to figure out what an adiabatic lapse rate was. Stupid Cumulus cloud article. Anyways, away from the rambling - it isn't supposed to be that confusing to the casual reader. I'll have to read over it again, then. Icy // ♫ 01:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I lied. Only these lines: "The base of a nimbostratus base cloud is dimmed by precipitation and is usually not clearly visible. In all cases, nimbostratus is accompanied by pannis clouds, which develop underneath of nimbostratus. If pannus layer is completely opaque, presence of precipitation indicates presence of nimbostratus. The pannus movement is slow and uniform under nimbostratus." —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Umm ..."pannis" might be a mispelling, but who knows with these terms >.> Pannus, from what I take, is just a collection of cloud fragments - fractus. I quote from the Fractus cloud article: Mass of multiple fractus clouds, located under main cloud is called pannus. I should link pannus to that. Icy // ♫ 01:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Later: <<F A I L>>. Pannus/is was already linked. You people just don't know how to click on links, huh ... or did you mean something else? Icy // ♫ 01:53, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Eh, they are all linked, but I'm also very lazy. :D :P I dunno, do what you want - I know literally nothing about clouds outside of the fact that they drop rain on us. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Or hail. Or snow. Or freezing rain. C'mon, use the right term... >>precipitation<<. Icy // ♫ 01:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Make me... <.< —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Make Pianista make you...? -cackle- Icy // ♫ 02:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahaha good, good, good comeback, my friend. Pianista would crucify me over a mistake like that...guess I should be glad that you are nicer. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Eh? Eh? I'm left out... :( :P

No, to the contrary, you should be glad that I am meaner. Very, very glad that I am a mean, bad girl...:D :D :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

And Icy, I don't really see a lapse in your c/e-ing skills, per se. Perhaps you'll help clean up my...ah...lapses in perfection once I take on some of the other stuff. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Lapse? No lapse that my eyes have seen... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

(<-) Takes the eyes of a gnome to see mistakes, Ed-kunkun. Maybe Pianista can tell me the plural form of pannus? I want to say that it's panni, but I'm not sure ... Icy // ♫ 21:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

@ Ed: Do you mean my lapse, or hers? *_*

@ Icy: It's panni. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No lapse on her part. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Figured as much. It's strange how the great people don't see how great they are, but the not-so-great can be such airheads...What? Why are you looking at me like that? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:10, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Yah, I still got the magic... ;)

And I've got a new post up, not so boring. If you'd leave one comment, I'll stop bothering you. Pinky promise. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Done :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

"Tanks" to you, as well. Rez dere, 2, but rezez back r volunterry. ;) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 18:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Congrats![edit]

		WikiProject Ships Barnstar
		For your work on bringing the first Wikipedia article on a class of large cruisers to A-class status I herby award you the Wikiproject Ships Barnstar. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Tom! Hopefully the FAC will pass in the next couple of days... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

WT:DYK[edit]

Thanks for intervening in that discussion. You don't have to worry about anything anymore; I have already left a message with the other user, and do not intend post any more in either his talk page or this thread. Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, sounds like a good plan. Walk away from a fight! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:59, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Re:Favor[edit]

I will look at this tomorrow when I have the weekend to put my mind on it. Also, for clarification, did you want me to look at the section in the article Alaska class cruiser or was there another article on your mind when you left the message? TomStar81 (Talk) 02:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

hahahaha I suck (how does one forget to name the article?). :) USS Hawaii (CB-3) was the article. Thank you! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Gotcha. I will look into it tomorrow as promised. Right now, I am off to diner, and then to bed :) TomStar81 (Talk) 02:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi ed. I've moved a copy of Hawaii into my sandbox so I can tinker with it "on the reservation" so to speak. Tonight, I am just going to get familiar with what you wrote, but tomorrow I will start the trimming and rewording process and see what I can do. I know you want the design section looked, at, but is there anything in particular you want left intact?

Take out whatever you feel needs to be taken out :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Guantanamo Bay detention camp[edit]

Please see discussion page at Guantanamo Bay detention camp for detailed discussion of current edits. TY! Edit Centric (talk) 05:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Foot drill article[edit]

Hey! I noticed that you are tied in to the Military History WikiProject, and was wondering if you could take a look at the article on Foot drill to see what can be done to bring it in to a more world-wide perspective. I did some major work on the article a few years back, but it hasn't gone very much farther since then... Edit Centric (talk) 06:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Expand the sections that do not have "U.S." in their names. :) For example, you have a picture of the Queen's Guard at the beginning, but you don't say a word about them in the article! Also, as a side note, the article needs more references to keep with WP:V. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, could you bring in some assistance on the article? I'm fresh out of ideas, and I'm kind of getting weary of being the only one working on it for so long. Thanks again :-) Edit Centric (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Try WT:MILHIST. I'm not trying to blow you off, but that wouldn't interest me at all...and, outside of MoS fixes, I can't work on articles that I can't get into...Wikipedia just isn't fun for me then. =/ Sorry... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

N/p, above all, Wikipedia should remain fun for you! It's not like it's a job, more a hobby (for me, at any rate!) Again, the only reason I brought that up is due to the template that's been placed on the page. (Which, even though I did most of the work in reference to U.S. Army drill, I completely agree with!) I'll try getting some assist on that. Thanks again :-) Edit Centric (talk) 07:09, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

You are most welcome! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

ACR revisit?[edit]

Hi there Ed, would it be possible if you could revisit the A-Class review of John S. McCain, Jr.? Any comments would be greatly appreciated, thanks. Woody (talk) 17:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Much appreciated. Regards, Woody (talk) 23:27, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 00:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Pass?[edit]

No corrections to be made? I thought there'd be loads to do :) Chamal ^talk 02:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Na, Icy and I hunted down the prose errors (I hope =/) and I didn't see anything missing that was noticeable though I knew nothing about that before hand - was there something I should know? :)) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I guess not. It was my first GAN after all, so I didn't know what kind of stuff there would be to do (though I had done everything in the criteria). Chamal ^talk 02:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The only thing bigger than simple mistakes was the image you made - for A-class and FAC, you will need to include a source (where did you get the info that you used in creating that?) But that isn't part of the GA criteria :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Used one of the newspaper sources: http://www.dailymirror.lk/DM_BLOG/Sections/frmNewsDetailView.aspx?ARTID=36847 So this has to be included in the description of the image page? Chamal ^talk 03:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, under "source". Keep the other source too, though (the other image) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Fantasy Book Club[edit]

Hi ed17,

Although i am not active on Wikipedia, i did start a Fantasy Book Club (using the nick JJ) on Goodreads that may enjoy joining. It has over 200 members now and has many fantasy authors in the group. Your most welcome to join the Fantasy Book Club.

Regards Boylo

Hello Boylo! It's been awhile :) I hope that RL is treating you well, my friend.

I might join eventually, but I already have enough on my plate with Facebook, this and classes. :) Thank you very much for the invitation! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay Ed no worries ! Hope things are going well for you as Lead Co-ordinator !

Boylo

Well...they aren't. I'm also a co-ordinator for WP:MILHIST...and with the amount of work I do there, i don't normally get to the Novels WP... :S Kinda wish Maria was active like she used too... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Ping.[edit]

You've got mail. You've got mail. You've got mail, mail, mail. (Sing to Jingle Bells) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright, alright. :) Will reply tomorrow - it's bedtime for Ed. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 07:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not pressurin' you, pal. :) Take all the time you need - just before March, pretty pls. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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Dost thou watch my page anymore? The WP:FP question hath been there a while, sir. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:04, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, and I will get to it...things on WP here suddenly became hectic. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I know. I've forgotten a response, too. What I get for having a massive watchlist. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 04:43, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol way to go. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Lol, email? :P I think you have the time - don't answer if I'm wrong, though. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

You're kidding me? Aw, now I have to wait another 24 hours... -_- —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Ha ha ha ha...I suck at life. Sorry pal :/ —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:12, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

<Beatles>Yesterday...

All my troubles seemed so farrr away...

Now it looks as though they're here to stay,

Oh I believe...in yesterday.</Beatles>

—La Pianista ^(T•C) 21:54, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No prob. Got it, and ping likewise. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 22:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

One last ping. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:15, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

wikicup[edit]

I see your in the wikicup...--Spittlespat 20:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Umm yes....why? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

um... yeah...--Spittlespat 20:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Um... do you know I compete against lapianista???...--Spittlespat 20:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah lol. I saw that she was in your pool :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

sigh... how many points do you have? I have 40...--Spittlespat 20:46, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

39...but I think that you only have 10. I don't think that was your GA, Spittle...this is all you did... :S —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

wait... what do you mean my GA? It's not like I'm just randomly editing articles I don't know...--Spittlespat 20:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

(twin e/c) I know, but I don't think that you can take 30 points in the Cup for an article that you added one uncited sentence too, Spittle.

TGF and Spittle: I got it, but I archived it because my talk page was approaching 100kb again. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

really? well... I thought I had more edits on the white bird. I'm doing another GA article, (on the history of malaria) I was just wodnering do you think my edits are good enough?--Spittlespat 21:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Give me a link! What article? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry... but how am I suppose to give you a link, he's not even real??... Oh!!! The wikipedia link (I'm so stupid) here: History of malaria

Not yet. Add some content, and make sure that you cite where you got the info. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

And make sure that your sources are reliable. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Help[edit]

Ed, I need your help. In the Post WWII section in the article USS Iowa I included the information concerning the live fire exercise in which Iowa helped sink Nevada. Now the information on the location has been marked as dubious because one editor thinks these ranges need to be given either as nautical miles or statutory miles. Since your more familiar with Nevada and her history than I am could you see about tracking down the range and see whether the location given for Nevada's sinking was in nautical miles or statue miles? TomStar81 (Talk) 21:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Doing... right this second. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I've got two sources that use "miles" and no mention of "nautical miles". Bonner may elaborate more on pg. 109 of Final Voyages, but Google Books doesn't allow anyone to see that page. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 21:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, ed. I'm trying to track down weapons ranges (if I recall correctly they are given in nautical miles), but so far haven't had much luck. I have to admit I didn't see this one coming, I usually get called for questionable net sources, not the difference between standard and nautical miles. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah...I hope that you can find it. Remember that e-mail is your friend; if all else fails, shoot an e-mail off to the Navy or whoever and see if you can get an answer. ORTS should take it(?) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ed. At the moment though the range is going to have to wait becuase I am in the process of rebuilding Hawaii. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thats why I started. I confess that I have alove of tearing things apart and putting them back togather. Don't worry, this is just warming up; I have to get use to the idea that its ok for me to actively edit someone elses article, once I do, I go back and start over again. :)

Ooooo ok then :) Thanks, but remember to put your own articles first, per what I put on your talk page :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:49, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

This, incidentally, is why I moved Hawaii to the sand box. If something ends up in there it means that I plan on taking my time to get it up and running. In fact, you can see that if you look in the history: most of the Iowa articles spent two-3 months minimum in my sandbox before reemerging, principally because I like to rake my time with the stuff there and get experimental on the layout and info. It want Hawaii back faster though I can make it a priority item. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

A month to a month-and-a-half would be nice, but take as long as you need—really, it does not matter. If you want to make it a priority, make sure that Iowa gets through its FAC and Texas through its GAN before you even think of prioritizing it, ok? :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:58, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 80 support, 2 oppose, and 1 neutral. I appreciate all the comments I received and will endeavor to justify the trust the community has placed in me. R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

re:history of malaria[edit]

Actually I was thinking about putting a cite on but it was already on so... yeah...--Spittlespat 22:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Problem with the Alaska class article[edit]

You need to take heed of this (my comment on the FAC for Alaska class cruiser:

*Crucial comment - recent edits have added information sourced to non-reliable sources, and removed information sourced to reliable sources that need to be dealt with immediately.

-MBK₀₀₄ 22:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I've tried the best I could - see the talk page. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 23:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup Newsletter[edit]

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DYK for Amagi class battlecruiser[edit]

On January 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Amagi class battlecruiser, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 05:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Tosa class battleship[edit]

On January 26, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tosa class battleship, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Walter Oesau[edit]

Hi Ed,

Apologies for not responding to your comments earlier. I had taken a Wiki Break for a while. I will be re active from tommorow. Hence I should be able to address all your points mentioned on the article's talk page.

Perseus71 (talk) 03:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

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FAC overload[edit]

Just a note, until the FAC page drops back to around 40 candidates, please don't nominate more than one article at a time. Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait, have I? I don't think that I have... I have Alaska-class cruiser there now and I'm helping User:EclipseSSD with Age of Empires (video game)... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

After reading through almost 60 FACs, there's a good possibility I was confused :) If so, I'm sorry (now to go back and figure out where I goofed). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Heh, you have a point...there are quite a few FACs right now. Depending on my time constraints tomorrow (read: how long a few A-class noms take), I may try to help you guys out there a bit... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I see what happened; I confused you and Editorofthewiki ... My apologies, again! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

LOL! Well, we are both "Ed"'s... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Congrats[edit]

[7] –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 19:32, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Not bad, congrats Ed (spoiling my user talk to article ratio right now...) Icy // ♫ 20:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hahahah thanks guys :) - but you get to put a star on our page if you want, Icy. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Me too? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 07:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Of course, dork. Thought you already knew that. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 17:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I thought you already knew you had an e-mail, so... :P Dork. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 17:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Iowa class battleship FT push[edit]

USS Iowa just passed her FAC. We know have the minimum core articles neede for the FT push. Our focus now needs to be addressing any surviing FAC issues. We also need to ensure that the articles are thouroughly copyeditted and that all exernally cited links are operation before the FT push. I think that if we push hard the nom may be ready to go in a week or two. What are your thoughts on the matter? TomStar81 (Talk) 19:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Um, "count me in"? :D I'm watching your FT workgroup page; leave a note on what you need help on here or there and I will get to it. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Congrats![edit]

		The WikiChevrons
		For promoting the first class article concerning cruiser to FA status I herby award you the WikiChevrons. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 20:01, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yay! Thanks Tom and Julian (above)! But that was the first cruiser-related article to get to FA? Hmm. Didn't know that... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:05, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Congrats, Ed. And yes, I think it's the first cruiser-related article to reach FA (unless you count SMS Von der Tann, a battlecruiser—but I'd count that as a capital ship). Parsecboy (talk) 20:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Eh, its not a big deal anyway, I was just really surprised.....but I'm just happy that I finally got that to FA. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

←Congrats! I was going to give you a barnstar, but Tom gave you it when the article made A-class, and the Chevrons are more than appropriate as well. So it is the thought that counts. -MBK₀₀₄ 22:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, nice job! Little Mountain 5 22:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that is true MBK. Thank you all! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Huzzah! Congrats to the article-builder here! Chevrons well-deserved, my friend, bravo. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Totalize[edit]

I've addressed your issues w/ Operation Totalize. Could you check back in. Cam ^(Chat) 05:17, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I've done so. Nice article and good job! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

MOTD[edit]

Hey, Ed (and all my your - TPSers that I know of) - what do you think of these responses? I tried to write the best I could. :) —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Some were rather complicated, but they were all totally understandable and slightly ...am I really about to say this?... poetic. —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

*guffaw* The girl that was once ready to pull you into a corner and bite your head off and then some is "poetic"? You just made my day, pal. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I try...sicko. :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Say "please and thank you." —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

<baby talk>Pwese and fank ou, Piasta! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

<epic baby talk>Aww, wut a wuvlie wittle babieeeee! *pinch cheek* Duz wittle Ed want a bon-bon? Yez ou do! Yez ou doooo! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

-_- fine. You win this round. But I have to go to bed, so g'nite! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Awite. Gud nite! —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

(late) I read those and they're nice, yeah. I think they're (as usual ;D) informative and well-written - as in they interest the reader - at the same time. Good. Icy // ♫ 20:35, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Icy! But, on second thought, they do seem a little verbose, maybe a bit unnecessarily garrulous...Wait, can Baby Ed understand dose big words? :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:03, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Amagi[edit]

Just passed her GAN. Should we put it up for a peer review or an ACR? Parsecboy (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't really care lol, but pick one. :P

From a RS... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 18:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

That's an interesting drawing...I wonder if Fair Use would be valid? It seems to me that while we could technically draw the design, we'd have to use a copyrighted drawing to base it on (and thus would be a derivative work, not a work of our own). It's pretty much unreasonable to require us to go to Japan and try to dig up the official blueprints, which would probably be in the public domain. So I wonder if that would get us around the "replaceable" bit. Parsecboy (talk) 19:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

You'd know more than me, Mr. Administrator. :P

And those blueprints were probably destroyed in the aftermath of WWII... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm by no means an image license expert, besides, you'll be an admin soon enough, so you don't have an excuse :p Perhaps I'll find a relevant noticeboard to ask.

That is a good point, but Conway's has a line drawing of the design, and that wasn't published until 1985, so there has to be something they used to base it on. As a side note, I've been trying to find the 1860-1905 volume of Conway's, but I can't find it anywhere. Amazon doesn't have it, neither does Alibris, or any of the other online book websites. I've found a couple instances of it, but the people are selling it for outrageous sums, upwards of $200. I even checked on eBay (allegedly you can find anything there), but no luck there either. I think part of the problem is that it's apparently out of print. Oh well....Parsecboy (talk) 22:33, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Pah. Maybe. If I ever get around to doing "administrator-related tasks"... *gag*

Dude, my university library has that. Just found that out about, oh, 10 seconds ago. Slightly unexpected...they don't have a lot of military-related stuff...but would you like me to take it out and help you out on an article or two? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I had it easy when I did my RfA—I had only done one or two things at the usual admin areas (AIV, RFPP, XfD, SSP, and RFCU), and only one person initially had a problem with it. I guess things change; or maybe I was just lucky. Maybe you could try doing some clerk work at WP:RM from time to time—that's where I do most of my admin-related work, and you don't need the tools to close proposals, and a significant number of the moves don't require deleting anything.

I hadn't thought of checking libraries...OSU only has the 1947-1982 edition, but one of the public libraries in Columbus has it here. So I can just go and check it out myself. I've been thinking about working on the German armored cruisers (after I get the BCs fixed up, of course), and the 1860-1905 edition would be useful for them. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction :) Parsecboy (talk) 23:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I did a little bit before...no closings though. Can I close an article as "move" even though I can't move it myself?

That works too. I'm rather envious that you live in an area that has to have just about any book you want...the U.P. has next to nothing. -_-

You mean the original Scharnhorst and Gneisenau? (or ALL of them?) Regardless, if you need/want help on any, feel free to ping me. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw you over there. I would say it's fine to close the moves; you can just speedy the redirect with {{db-move}}. Or, if I'm around, you can just drop me a note to delete the redirect for you. And, it'll demonstrate need for the tools </power-hungry-conspiracy-voice> :D

That's one of the benefits of living in a big city, you can usually find whatever you might want. But, there are also the drunk idiots who smash your side mirrors and steal the spare tire from the bottom of your truck...

Yes, eventually, I'd like to get them ALL up to at least GA. There are 9 armored cruisers, 6 of which are pairs that each have a class article, so a total of 12 articles. That's of course after the remaining 5 BCs and 1 BC class article (not counting the unfinished Mackensens and Ersatz Yorcks, of course). I have been slowing plinking away at the Roon class, which was why I've been looking for the 1860-1905 Conway's (the 1906-22 edition only has a trifling of info). So maybe in 10 years, I'll be done :) I'll probably hassle you for help as I work through the BCs. Parsecboy (talk) 03:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I can move stuff over redirects? I thought that you had to be an admin...? hahahahahaha yes, a definite need :)

...not fun.

Not "hassle"! Start working on the BCs, and ping me whenev - I'll write sections here and there and c/e stuff for ya (and remember, I've got 1906-1921 too!) ;)

Oh boy, first report to AN/I and first report to AIV! :O —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 04:59, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, if there's only been 1 edit to a redirect (i.e., the edit that created it), anyone can move a page over it. The problem arises when there's been another edit (to fix a double redirect, add a category, whatever), but you can either ping me if you need help, or use {{db-move}} to get another admin to delete it for you. That's what JPG-GR did for a considerable amount of time before he became an admin.

Yeah, it was pretty lame, and it's happened to at least two other people in my building. So we've got a serial car vandal on the loose. He was lucky I wasn't around when he was out there --> File:Kimber Custom TLE (left).JPGNot that I would've shot him or anything, I just would've scared the shit out of him a little :)

Well, Moltke is probably going to pass her ACR shortly, at which point I'll put her up for FAC, so if you want to help keep an eye on it, that'd be nice. After that, I'll probably start with the Moltke class article. I've already been working on it here and there during lulls in the Moltke reviews, but it still needs more. So I'll ping away when I get down to work on it :) Parsecboy (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) Ooooo. I tried once and I couldn't, so I never tried again. Whoops...
LOL! Be nice now...
Watchlisted both. Now off to finish USS Connecticut (BB-18) for 22 February.... ;) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 22:47, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it took me a while to figure out why some redirects could be overwritten by non-admins and others needed to be deleted.

I'm planning on getting the Moltke class article and Goeben at least to GA for a Good Topic, and maybe eventually Featured Topic. Unfortunately, my books on Goeben are all just WWI-related, so I'll probably have to do a lot of digging for her Turkish service (up until 1974). Parsecboy (talk) 23:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

It may not be as hard as you thought - the Turkish Navy didn't do much in the interwar years and WWII, and I can't imagine that an aging, per-WWI battlecruiser did much after WWII in terms of sailing. Prolly just sat in reserve and did nothing :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

That's probably true. I do recall reading somewhere that when the ship was scrapped in 1974, it was basically unchanged from its WWI configuration. It's really too bad that the ship wasn't preserved as a museum. The Germans wanted to buy it back in the early 60s, but by the time Turkey decided to sell it in the late 60s, the political climate in Germany had changed, and they didn't want a relic from their imperial past. And there weren't sufficient funds in Turkey to turn it into a museum ship there, so they just scrapped her. Hmm, I recall that USS Missouri made a goodwill trip in the Mediterranean after WWII, and had some sort of ceremony with Goeben/Yavuz, that might be a place to start. And the book I've got on Missouri has pictures that include Goeben and may be PD, if they're Navy photos. Parsecboy (talk) 04:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and I'll probably be around to help with Connecticut. I'll start trawling through Google Books tomorrow to see what I can find. Parsecboy (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) That would be a good starting point. :)

I really wish that she had been preserved - she would have been one of two WWI-era capital ships to still be around (not counting Mikasa, too old (1898)), and the only battlecruiser left in existence. Pity...

(after) Really? Thanks a bunch! I won't be on until late afternoon/early evening at the earliest, but I'll be back as soon as I can... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I had forgotten that my fiancee's aunt and uncle are doing this ren fest type thing today, and that we're going to go over and check it out. So that'll take a chunk out of my day, although I'm not sure how much, exactly. I should be around tonight, at the latest. Parsecboy (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Psh - don't worry about it...this isn't work, and you don't have to sacrifice your life. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks, ed. I'll look into the comments after school on Friday, that appears to be the earliest day that I will have to do any hardcore reading and typing on wikipedia. I'm about to head off to my last class of the day, so I will look at the comments more in depth when I get home. TomStar810 (Talk) 23:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Alright. Have fun Tom! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 23:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

...PS: I typically archive my talk page at 100 posts, so I'll archive soon, but not just yet... :) TomStar810 (Talk) 23:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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The ed17, thanks for taking the time to comment on Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. I am glad you also see how important this guideline will be, since it will determine the inclusion or exclusion of television character and television episodes. I have really strong views about this too. Ikip (talk) 01:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I also have the "don't bite the newcomers" banner on my page.

A side note, you seem to enjoy getting awards on the top of your user page, you should see Wikipedia:Article_Rescue_Squadron/Hall_of_Fame#Award, with a new award. Have a great evening.Ikip (talk) 01:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem.

It's not that I enjoy getting awards, it's that I like to display my article-related accomplishments...my actual awards are on a sub-page. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Silly as it is, displaying your awards, garners respect and makes editors realize you are a formidable ally or adversary. I resisted for years, but realized I was at a disadvantage if I didn't display my acomplishments and articles created.

I really hope to see more of your input in this vital Request for comment, hundreds of editors contributions are at stake. Ikip (talk) 14:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I just wanted to drop by to say how much I appreciated your comments at the above-noted RFC, especially refreshingly honest "per my personal opinion" bit. It's nice to see an editor argue his position without arguing that failure to adopt it will undermine everything Wikipedia is built on. For what it's worth, though I !voted support for the guideline, I agree with the sentiments you express; in my view, the guideline will prove not to be an insurmountable obstacle for most of what deserves to be there, and I have a hunch that evolution of the guideline and its application will wind up fairly inclusionist. Cheers, Sarcasticidealist (talk) 15:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! If that policy get adopted, it definitely won't be the end of Wikipedia - but I think that our reader numbers will dive as fictional characters get deleted/merged. You know, I've actually found complete plot regurgitation/OR articles on fiction books or fictional characters to be more helpful than good articles (at times, DEFinitely not all the time). I am definitely not saying that all OR articles are more helpful, but... —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 20:54, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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I know your real name? :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:05, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

At a wild guess, I'd say his name is Ed. :P –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 05:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

With a "Mister" prefix? Old pun on ya, Ed, but must be done. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Wow...really Pianista? And Julian...are you...

...the incarnation of Sherlock Holmes? :O —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:19, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Methinks he is Mr. Spock. Unmistakably pointy-eared hurricane, ja ja. But really, do I? Is it in your e-mail somewhere...? —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

And, btw...would you be interested in this thread? :P Personally, I rofelled. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) It isn't in my e-mail? I thought it was...

Looks around Anyway...new topic? Away from my stupidity? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I dunno. I'll e-mail you your e-mail. (Wow, was that necessary? :P)

Hm...okay, my egotism. You have 25 seconds on the clock. Your time starts...now. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:28, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

And e-mail

Done. Relish the e/c, my friend. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

No e/c - was too busy looking for my duel with biblio and not finding it. :( —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:36, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

(e/c - &$%*! It rebounded on me!) Come on! We've heard of that already! :D If you want my two cents, don't gloat - pride is one of the ugliest traits an individual can have. *cough, cough* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:37, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

(out) LOL! —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

I have that affect on people, I suppose. :D And here's another one, from months back, short and sweet. And we wonder why I...ah...succumb to proclaiming my awesomeness. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:45, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow...amazing diff ya got there. :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

~~That's why I'm a lovely girl.~~ That's why resisting pride is a virtue. Yay, the therapy is working! :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:52, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

It is? I think that you are faking... :P —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh, shoot! I forgot the blue pills today... —La Pianista ^(T•C) 05:56, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

:O Can.....can you stop bullets too? —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 05:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

...Dat wuz supposed to be a secwet. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Too bad. I know all. :P

But alas, I must strike the colours and surrender; I have to add more to Connecticut. <3 ya! ;D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Likewise! Must hit the pillow as well, seeing as I've got an exam tomorrow (small thing, nothing intimidating), Grandpaw's got a birthday party, and the feline's got a date with the vet. And I must also pay a visit to the flying monkeys on my way to Antarctica. Ciao, —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:10, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Oof. Busy...have fun! :) —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 06:11, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Btw, (before I really go) - rez. Cheers, —La Pianista ^(T•C) 06:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

And about Connecticut - see rez. :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

DUDE. I had already replied. hahahahahaha wow... :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 01:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

DUDE. Where's my car? So did I. :P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I did it again. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Pow. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 01:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

*struck speechless* ...

All of a sudden, I like you. A lot. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

(out) Well, I am available... ;D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ewwwwww...you killed it. That sounded like one of those drunks swaggering off the barstool, seeing double and thinking single. Back to Connecticut for me... ;P —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

....why would you know what those people sound like? :O —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 02:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

>.> Because I know everything. Now out with you, like a good little boy. *pushes Ed off* —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Zomgosh, LOLcatzpeek iz contajuz. rofel. Rafal? :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 02:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. I could be him. :O —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Naprawdę? :D —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

...I was going to use Google Translator, but I'm too lazy. :D —Ed 17 ^{(Talk / Contribs)} 03:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Pwned. —La Pianista ^(T•C) 03:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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