User:Logical Premise

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The second response (to criticism of Wikipedia) is: the collaborative nature of the apparatus means that the right data tends to emerge, ultimately, even if there is turmoil temporarily as dichotomous viewpoints violently intersect. To which I reply: that does not inspire confidence. In fact, it makes the whole effort even more ridiculous. What you've proposed is a kind of quantum encyclopedia, where genuine data both exists and doesn't exist depending on the precise moment I rely upon your discordant fucking mob for my information. -- from Penny Arcade

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On 16 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Fault-tolerant computer systems, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Mifter (talk) 10:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

On 26 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Auditory agnosia, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

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I used to be Wikiwise , and edit pages under sunny skies

But now those days are gone and old, swept away in ice and cold

I've seen some things I wish not to have seen, to have learned, to have been

And now I'm back under another name, hopefully this time to garner less fame.

You don't know me but you do, sarcastic as I am

I only work on articles, I don't AfD or clean Spam

I was never blocked or ArbCommed, I never was an admin or clerk

Back then people called me "difficult" and now they call me jerk

My name is the name of kings, of nations and of cars

My location is the only place you can see more cows than stars

My job is something boring, my hobbies inane and stale

Which is why I'm editing this gigantic database of Fail

I used to be wikiwise, but that makes me a wikifool. And at least this time I know my way, instead of being someone's tool.

What is NPOV? Why is it bullshit?

(Please note this is my personal opinion.)

NPOV is some sort of hilarious, pie-in-the-sky fantasy that some people have that everything can be written about from the point of view of someone who is a strictly neutral observer.

It's completely logical in many cases. Things where scientific evidence is clear; where the preponderance of history is firm; where the overwhelming consensus from anyone you ask is clear. An article on the Moon Landings is not NPOV because it doesn't mention the idea they may be a hoax: anyone who believes the moon landings are a hoax is bat-fuck insane. Catering to the wishes of flat-earthers, creationists, Scientologists, numerologists, and anyone who doesn't believe that the Kirby Silver Surfer is the best Silver Surfer ever is just catering to the frothing at the mouth crowd.

No, I have no problem with that kind of NPOV. But how can you have NPOV over events where there isn't a clear set of scientific evidence, such as with stem cells? What if the preponderance of history is one of dueling claims?

You seriously expect a pack of power-tripping lunatics, teenagers, bored housewives, Aspies and detailed-fixated dilantantes to solve the greatest controversies in the history of the world by finding a neutral viewpoint everyone agree on?

Thus, my rule: If NPOV is in dispute in an article, I do not edit it. I do not get involved in it's AfD, I don't find references for it, and I certainly stay completely the fuck away from it's talk page.

What's expected of editors?

Well, children, this is going to be difficult. I'm going to list out the appropiate policy page and then my translation.

No personal attacks - Don't you dare insult anyone who is an admin, or is tight with one, or who knows how to cry to AN/I. But if one of those people is rude to you, or even harasses you, anything you say to try to point this situation out is also a personal attack and you will be banned. I recommend that you interact with people as little as possibl and when you do, keep in mind EACH interaction is a chance for something to go wrong.
Be civil - Civility is what they will break your head open with at the ArbCom hearing when, after being baited, taunted, and wheeled against for weeks, you finally let go with a single insult. I recommend that if you find yourself wanting to say something uncivil, you simply stop editing that article altogether. Forever. It isn't worth it.
Assume good faith - Assume the idiots here are all out to backstab you, set you up, or get you in trouble. No one will bother to AGF with you, so the further along you get the idea in your head that anything besides article writing is bad, the safer you'll be!
Seek dispute resolution - Assume if you use any form of DR to be banned and chatted about breezily on WR.
Don't be a fanatic - Only veteran wiki-warriors, admins, and their assorted lickspittles are allowed to be fanatical.
Ask an admin rather than get into trouble yourself - riiight. Admin = bad.

There's a lot of this garbage and more, and yet, this is not what the fuck should be expected out of editors. Here's my own list

Remember you are here to write an encyclopedia, not run a social club, participate in parlement, or be a fucking clerk. The further away you get from article writing, the more unhappy you will be and the more likely you are to get into an altercation.
Follow the four steps: Write about things that are verifiable, always produce references, wikify wherever you can, and go after only CLEAR and obvious vandalism.
Use the lists of articles that need help if you want something to do. It's FAR more productive than being in a WikiProject.

Writing for Wikipedia (AKA, Drooling for dollars)

Writing for an encyclopedia is not the same as writing for a newspaper, or even an academic paper. It's more like writing for a pack of lunatics who may or may not see what you are doing. Don't think of it as working on a academic paper, their standards are FAAAAAR stronger than WP would ever be. An encyclopedia should be a boring agreement on what the definition and description of a topic is. Everything else anyone tells you is bullshit.

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