User:Who/Discussion log/2011-2012

Teun Voeten wiki page

Dear, I am the one who created Teun Voeten Aritcle. you deleted the article because you said that Teun Voeten biography was copied from Teun Voeten website. As I am pretty new in Wikipedia I ask your hel in order to modify Teun Voeten page and make it suitable for Wikipedia standards. Moreover, where can I find the page that you have deleted in order to improve it? Do I have to remake it brand new? Hoping in your help.

(Ransfortstraat (talk) 09:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC))

I doubt the above message is relevant to you as Crisco 1492 deleted the page and have pointed the user to User talk:Crisco 1492 instead (the user posted a question on the Help Desk). FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

J. Marshall Craig page deletion

Will you accept references to undelete J. Marshall Craig page? The discussion seemed highly inaccurate as there has never been a claim that he wrote the song "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" and all his writing credits can be substantiated, Books In Print, published interviews, reviews, etc. Allargo99 (talk) 22:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC) ’ was decided by a single user. The block of my (home) IP was handed out by a single user.

I have access to more than four IPs, and at least three of them are collective—and thereby unblockable. But I’m not going to edit from those other IPs for now. Instead, I’m going to ask you (and Flibbert, on his talk page) to AGF and consider the sources offered. But I won’t appeal to some internal process. I won’t ‘re-open’ a mediation result concluded by a single individual who knows SFA about the school or state in question.

Fact is fact. And the idea that the encyclopaedia open to everyone is constrained to error by its own internal and self-imposed proclivities is…well, telling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.39.73 (talk) 00:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Freelance Brain Trust

Hello! It was great meeting you at your GLAM-Wiki panel at Wikimania! We spoke briefly about freelance science. I mentioned a project, a freelance brain trust. The idea is to develop a group that (openly) works to find solutions and provide frameworks for their implementation. It would be great to talk to you about it as things develop! JoBaWik (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Teun Voeten wiki page

Dear, I am the one who created Teun Voeten Aritcle. you deleted the article because you said that Teun Voeten biography was copied from Teun Voeten website. As I am pretty new in Wikipedia I ask your hel in order to modify Teun Voeten page and make it suitable for Wikipedia standards. Moreover, where can I find the page that you have deleted in order to improve it? Do I have to remake it brand new? Hoping in your help.

(Ransfortstraat (talk) 09:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC))

I doubt the above message is relevant to you as Crisco 1492 deleted the page and have pointed the user to User talk:Crisco 1492 instead (the user posted a question on the Help Desk). FloBo A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 11:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

J. Marshall Craig page deletion

Will you accept references to undelete J. Marshall Craig page? The discussion seemed highly inaccurate as there has never been a claim that he wrote the song "Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood" and all his writing credits can be substantiated, Books In Print, published interviews, reviews, etc. Allargo99 (talk) 22:40, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back

Noticed your update. Glad to see you back. Made me smile. -- Rick Block (talk) 05:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Hopefully things will stay nice. Soooo much new stuff to learn. Who (talk) 06:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Ho. Ly. Crap. --Kbdank71 03:00, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

For the help on K-State. I was more interested in preventing IP abuse than a sockpuppet investigation (which seems to ake forever). — BQZip01 — ^talk 00:10, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

• Replied 27 November 04:52

strange you should ask :-)

Would you be so kind as to assist in an uncontroversial page move? See my response on my talk page for details. — BQZip01 — ^talk 04:20, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Kansas State University

I'm probably going to need your assistance on Kansas State University and the ongoing problems with the name. I believe I've done my part by recommending the user(s) prepare another mediation if they are dissatisfied with the original outcome, however, the same possible sockpuppets (who you have banned in the past) are back and doing their part. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Thanks. Flibbert (talk) 00:41, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

K-State ANI discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — BQZip01 — ^talk 17:44, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppet/Repeat Vandal

Reporting IP 130.94.91.235 (etc., anonymous proxy and IP ranges) repeated vandalism and sockpuppetry on Julie Dash and article. Coronerreport (talk) 16:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Unfair critique regarding edit of constitution of Australia

The article you have regarding the constitution of Australia is full of Lies and falsehoods.when I have tried to edit this I am accused of vandalism. Since when is telling the truth vandalism.It is my opinion that you are the vandal in that you cant handle the truth.119.12.109.147 (talk) 08:10, 30 April 2011 (UTC)Peter

Thanks for your assistance with my John Fass article.

Hello again,

Thanks for your advice on my John Fass article. I have followed your suggestions and have added inline citations. Plus I added more references. Please advise me of any additional requirements for my site to be officially oked by the editors.

Regards, Lee Jay Stoltzfus (talk) 20:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your tips on my article. It was really helpful and I really appreciated it. Take Care! Highlightergirl (talk) 19:06, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tv.com person

Template:Tv.com person has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.   ArcAngel   (talk) ) 15:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Sailing ship elements

Category:Sailing ship elements, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:26, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Your input is needed on the SOPA initiative

Hi Who,

You are receiving this message either because you expressed an opinion about the proposed SOPA blackout before full blackout and soft blackout were adequately differentiated, or because you expressed general support without specifying a preference. Please ensure that your voice is heard by clarifying your position accordingly.

Thank you.

Message delivered as per request on ANI. -- The Helpful Bot 16:46, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Who,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

• Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
• Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
• All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
• All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
• The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obarmsu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obarmsu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.9.115.210 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 2 March 2012

NC4

Proposed deletion of NC4

The article NC4 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No indication of notability

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Mean as custard (talk) 14:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Hadden Clark G10 CSD

(discussion log with Dominic [[1]])

Hi, I noticed you speedy deleted the article Hadden Clark (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) citing no sources. Although there were no proper references used, there was a link to more data on this person. I don't feel the G10 rule would apply to this article as it wasn't purely a negative biography or attack page, but documented history of an incarcerated serial killer. In these cases, I feel an improvement banner or cite sources banner would have been more appropriate. If this had been an attack page on a non-notable person or on a celebrity it would have fit G10 rules, but in this case it was the facts of his murder/case/trial. I haven't been on in awhile, so I don't know if there is a current trend of deleting serial killer articles as "attack pages" or not. This article could have been easily improved or had references provided. I propose this page be restored at some point so that it may be properly referenced as it is a historical record of fact. I currently do not have the time at the moment to improve upon the article, so I am not proposing restoring it immediately. Please feel free to reply or send me a message if you have any thoughts or comments. Sorry for the "rant" style message, kind of bogged down with research at the moment. Thank you for you time. «»Who?¿? 21:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

It is fairly obvious to me that accusing a person of being a serial killer makes a biography negative. I say "accusing" because these claims need reliable sources. Please note, though, that a deletion on the basis of a lack of sources is not actually a judgment on the subject's notability. If the topic can be properly sourced, it may be perfectly fine. In general, though, I also find that many such articles about criminals often fall afoul of other Wikipedia guidelines like Wikipedia is not a newspaper and single-event notability, so please keep that in mind. When you want to rework the article, any admin can give you the original text to work from, but just remember to ask yourself if there actually sufficient biographical information on this person that make a biographical article worthwhile, or if there is just news and true-crime coverage of his crimes.Thanks! Dominic·t 02:53, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

To be fair, I am not accusing, just following the facts already at hand, we do a lot of serial killer research and he's already been convicted, so I was just stating. As for the other, I do agree not all persons in society that do things of notable content are necessarily encyclopedic material. I wouldn't consider one off criminals to be inherently encyclopedic, but as far as confirmed serial killers, there's a great deal of need for this type of research from several communities, which qualifies some of them for inclusion. I'm not in it to glorify the topic like some of the true crime websites, we do it out of scientific need of research on this type of criminal. I also spend a great deal of my time, when I'm on, correcting, adding and revising authenticate references to several types of articles. I do appreciate your input on the matter. I am an admin, but I always give common courtesy and approach the admin who deleted an article before proceeding and usually request they undelete an article, even if I haven't made any edits to it. No worries, I would not revive an article if I could not obtain enough substantial factual information to sustain it, but I always try to save articles that may have merit with a little more effort put into them. Thanks again. «»Who?¿? 03:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ed, Edd n Eddy reverts

(discussion log with Jpcase [[2]])

Hi, I noticed you undid almost every revision by StaleCupcakes on the article Ed, Edd n Eddy (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch without leaving any remarks. I do understand some of the reverts but try to assume the edits were in good faith, and not necessarily vandalism. A good way to learn the proper way of editing is for someone to point out the good and the bad things one might be contributing to an article. I also noticed that you hadn't explained your reverts to the user on their talk page, so they could better understand how to contribute to an article. Please consider these things before reverting good faith edits. At first glance, it seemed you purposely reverted all the edits by that user, but I assumed you were only acting in good faith to keep the article clean and well written. Thanks and happy editing. «»Who?¿? 01:33, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Puppet Here

It's user (singular), and I'm not a puppet, sock, meat, or otherwise. I'll keep this one civil, but I won't promise anything beyond that. First, for Who, it's not 'your' encyclopaedia. This project/experiment has become the de facto encyclopaedia for the entire world. Unfortunately.

I know the process, and I know the ‘rules’—I’ve used and edited Wikipedia since 2004. Always anonymously, always from an IP. (Different IPs, but hey, life requires switching service providers at times) But every edit I’ve ever made has been in good faith. Every one has been researched, weighed, and considered before inclusion. I would go so far as to say that 90% of the edits I’ve made to this encyclopaedia have been the removal of unsourced and unsupported information.

And yes, I know the issues attendant with using an IP. Hell, I’ve been watching the Obama and Obama Citizenship Conspiracy pages for three years now. IPs pop in, offer unsupported accusation, and when overturned disappear again, convinced that wiki has a particular bias.

I understand all of that, but isn’t one of ‘your’ guiding principles to AFG? Has anyone at any time in this process bothered to look at the refs I’ve offered? The name of the university is—incorrectly—insisted upon by a single user. The ‘mediation== Freelance Brain Trust ==

Hello! It was great meeting you at your GLAM-Wiki panel at Wikimania! We spoke briefly about freelance science. I mentioned a project, a freelance brain trust. The idea is to develop a group that (openly) works to find solutions and provide frameworks for their implementation. It would be great to talk to you about it as things develop! JoBaWik (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2012 (UTC)