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A perennial issue on this page is folks trying to capitalize bell hooks' name. As explained in the article and this NYTimes article, her penname is always lowercase. I'd like to propose the following edit notice:
Capitalization of name
The subject of this article uses a penname which is always spelled in lower case letters.Please only use bell hooks or just hooks throughout the article. |
Please feel free to stylize this or add images as you see deem appropriate. Thank you!
EvergreenFir (talk) 17:49, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}}template. Your request goes against MOS:NAMECAPS and the example set by E. E. Cummings. Cabayi (talk) 18:19, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Checking the example at MOS:LCITEMS, K.d. lang also only gets lowercased in the title, she's "Lang" throughout the article. Not seeing any precedent to support the request. Cabayi (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Cabayi: as explained in the NYTimes looks, she's the one exception in the Chicago Manual. There's been consensus on the page for a long time (e.g., see recent moves) and extensive discussion on the talk page. WP:LCITEMS shows that use is lower case names is acceptable when demonstrated by reliable third party sources. The standard on hooks' article for years had been to use lower case in article. I don't know why that's not done lang (nor do I understand why lang's title is all lower case but hooks' isn't). If you want me to do an RFC on the matter, I will. Given that this is the status quo on this particular article, I didn't think it a problem. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:19, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- EvergreenFir, we adhere to Wikipedia's Manual of Style, not the Chicago Manual of Style. If you want to try and gain consensus for a change Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters would be the appropriate forum. Cabayi (talk) 08:48, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Cabayi: as explained in the NYTimes looks, she's the one exception in the Chicago Manual. There's been consensus on the page for a long time (e.g., see recent moves) and extensive discussion on the talk page. WP:LCITEMS shows that use is lower case names is acceptable when demonstrated by reliable third party sources. The standard on hooks' article for years had been to use lower case in article. I don't know why that's not done lang (nor do I understand why lang's title is all lower case but hooks' isn't). If you want me to do an RFC on the matter, I will. Given that this is the status quo on this particular article, I didn't think it a problem. EvergreenFir (talk) 05:19, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Checking the example at MOS:LCITEMS, K.d. lang also only gets lowercased in the title, she's "Lang" throughout the article. Not seeing any precedent to support the request. Cabayi (talk) 18:25, 22 February 2017 (UTC)