Template:Did you know nominations/The Gift (The X-Files)
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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 13:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
The Gift (The X-Files)[edit]
... that The X-Files star Gillian Anderson made use of her absence in "The Gift" to spend time with her daughter?
- Reviewed: Bathroom sex
Created/expanded by Gen. Quon (talk). Nominated by Grapple X (talk) at 21:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
- Hook needs changes; here are proposed changes for ALT 1:
(#2) ... that The X-Files star Gillian Anderson did not appear in "The Gift" and was grateful to spend him with her daughter by letting this episode center on Agent John Doggett (Robert Patrick)?(#3) ... that The X-Files star Gillian Anderson was absent in "The Gift" and grateful that this episode centered on Agent John Doggett (Robert Patrick)?
Changed tone. "Used her absence" would imply "exploiting", right? #3 does not mention the daughter.
How about this:
ALT 2: ... that one reviewer of The X-Files episode, "The Gift, found Agent Mulder's "terminal brain disease" storyline and keeping his disease a secret from Agent Scully out of his character?
I think my proposed alt would be better than Anderson's daughter thing?--George Ho (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- To be honest, I'm not actually sure what you feel is wrong with the original, and I'm not keen on any of these alts given how lengthy and meandering they seem. If you're concerned about a possible misconstruing of "used", then perhaps simply changing it to "made use of" would help enforce a positive tone without needless baggage? GRAPPLE X 21:08, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Changed the hook and stroke my alternative except ALT 2. --George Ho (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- True, Gillian's absence and her reasons contributed to the episode. However, I don't even know what the episode is about until I read the article. Therefore, I unstroke one alternative, just in case. --George Ho (talk) 21:23, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Article expanded from redirect well over 5x (and 1500 characters) on April 24 according to DYKcheck. Article has inline sources and NPOV. Both of the remaining hooks have problems even with the hook sourcing AGF: the original because Anderson was in the episode, if only for a few cameos—she was not entirely absent, according to the lede, a fact that should appear more clearly in the article's body and with a citation—and the ALT2 "out of character" review because it's a bit involved and concentrates on a single reviewer's opinion. It should be easy to rework either. A different approach could be focusing on Duchovny's first major appearance since the season opener (this was ep 11, the midpoint of a 21-episode season). BlueMoonset (talk) 01:12, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- As an idea, yes. As a straight word substitution, I don't think so: "made use of her minimal involvement" doesn't fly. Perhaps "took advantage" instead of "made use of" and "more" inserted into "spend time"? Want to propose something official so I can review it? If I formulate a new ALT, we need to find another reviewer to review it, but if it's your ALT, I can still chime in. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Jiggering it around a little, I got ALT: ... that Gillian Anderson's minimal involvement in The X-Files episode "The Gift" allowed her to spend more time with her daughter? GRAPPLE X 03:19, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
ALT hook above approved with inline sources accepted in good faith; hook length 127 characters, well under 200; and everything else already checked out above. Congrats! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
