Template:Did you know nominations/Robin Lee Wilson

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The result was: promoted by feminist (talk) 16:32, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Robin Lee Wilson[edit]

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~~... that Robin Lee Wilson was master of the Worshipful Company of Paviors in 2003 when it updated its ordinances for the first time since 1479?~~ It is with much pleasure that I can report that the Court of Aldermen has granted our Petition, which was submitted on 19 February 2003. The Petition was in two parts; first to seek the Court’s approval to the restated and updated ‘Constitution, Objects and Ordinances’, which will now replace the original Ordinances granted in 1479

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anoplognathus aureus

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:43, 17 December 2017 (UTC).

Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is correctly formatted and interesting with an inline cite in the article. No picture to review. Article is neutral and well referenced. No copyvios detected. It's good to go. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:35, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but have some questions about the hook. On the surface, it seems to be talking about a religious society; is your intention to produce an Easter egg hook? The hook is also focusing on the organization rather than the subject's own accomplishments. And if this position is noteworthy, why isn't it mentioned in the lead? Yoninah (talk) 20:25, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

It's paviours as in paving. He's in construction and engineering. The company of paviours was established in 1479 as one of the guilds of medieval London. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Philafrenzy: Oh. Well, this is very obscure for someone from outside England. Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

If only there was somewhere we could look it up! Philafrenzy (talk) 21:50, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yoninah, I expanded the article lead to cover this. The hook could mention livery company if it helps, but I think that might make it overly long. The revision of its ordinances was carried out when he was the master (like a chairman) of the company - which were originally trade guilds but are now effectively charitable organisations. If you want, I can take another look at the article if an alternative hook is necessary - Dumelow (talk) 22:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

@Dumelow: Yes, please do. I think the hook should focus on the subject, not what the organization did. Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

How about: - Dumelow (talk) 23:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1: ~~... that in 2012 Robin Lee Wilson installed a water turbine to generate electricity at the Coultershaw Wharf and Beam Pump, which dates from the 18th-century?~~

@Dumelow: yes, this fact looks better, but what is written in the article is more interesting IMO:
ALT2: ... that Robin Lee Wilson project managed the installation of an Archimedes' screw water turbine which would supply 65,000 kilowatt hours of electricity per year to the National Grid and save 50 tons of carbon dioxide emissions? Yoninah (talk) 09:55, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

That seems a little long and overly technical to me. Perhaps the following? - Dumelow (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

ALT3: ... that Robin Lee Wilson project-managed the installation of an Archimedes' screw water turbine at the 18th-century Coultershaw Wharf and Beam Pump to supply electricity to the National Grid?

Thank you, I think that's much better. Since I suggested the hook, calling on another reviewer to sign off on ALT3. Pinging @Philafrenzy:. Yoninah (talk) 17:15, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Good to go with ALT3, 188 length checks ok, interesting. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 18:27, 4 February 2018 (UTC)