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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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Photo negative casting

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Patrick Stewart
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  • ... that Patrick Stewart (pictured) invented photo negative casting in order to play Othello when it had become no longer acceptable to perform the role in blackface? Source: Playbill

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 14 June 2020 (UTC).

  • - Article is new enough, long enough, policy compliant, and not a COPYVIO. The sources all look reliable. Hook is interesting, within length requirements, and supported by a citation to a reliable source. The sentence the hook appears in in the article is accompanied by a citation to a reliable source. Image is free and used in the article. QPQ done. Good to go. Hog Farm (talk) 19:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am wary of the page name and also the hook claim. Only The Guardian article calls it "photo negative casting" (and puts that in quotes). The main article, Color-blind casting, does not mention it at all. The latter article, which does not mention this 1997 Othello performance either, cites casting in the 1983 film Never Say Never Again and Batman (1989 film) as earlier examples of this phenomenon. It seems to be a neologism coined by The Guardian, and a discussion of the Othello performance probably belongs in Color-blind casting. Yoninah (talk) 18:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Colour blind is where the colour of someone is irrelevant in casting, Photo negative is where the colour of the actors/characters is deliberately reversed. They are two different concepts. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, I'm only finding the term, in quotes, in The Guardian and Brockett. Everywhere else it refers to photography. I'm not convinced that this is a valid page name. Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I think you should get more consensus on this. Anyone who searches on "Photo negative" will end up at Negative (photography). Yoninah (talk) 20:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I have posted a request for other editors' opinions at WT:DYK. Yoninah (talk) 21:07, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • As this is a relatively obscure topic, you aren't going to find a lot of hits no matter what term you use. An alternative is "race-reversed casting", which has even fewer Google hits than "photo negative casting", but has the advantage of being a descriptive title which is easily understood without needing to read the article. I'm fine with either term. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, that is a good suggestion. Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you @King of Hearts:, I think that's a good idea so happy for it to be moved. All I would say though is that "Photo negative" should be in the main lead as an alternate title and I'd prefer that it remain in the DYK hook as it was what Sir Patrick called it when he invented it. Would you be OK with that @Yoninah:? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:46, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @The C of E:, yes, but in quotes:
  • ALT1: ... that Patrick Stewart (pictured) invented "photo negative" casting in order to play Othello when it had become no longer acceptable to perform the role in blackface?
  • I'll go ahead and move the page and update this template. Yoninah (talk) 13:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Page moved and template updated. Restoring tick per Hog Farm's review. Yoninah (talk) 13:16, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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