The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 06:13, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Comment: ALT2 is about a different picture, therefore the image would be File:Francisco_Goya_-_Portrait_of_the_Duke_of_Wellington.jpg
Moved to mainspace by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 11 July 2020 (UTC).
This is not a full review yet, anyone else is welcome to comment. I have some general questions. Which sources are there that satisfy WP:LISTN? In other words, is just the these two articles here and here, which talk about the list as a whole? There appears to be no introduction according to WP:SALLEAD, and just a really long block of text which is difficult to read. Is there a reason why the list is not chronological as per WP:SALORDER? Is there a reason why the article is called "List", but the actual list is called "Table"? Again, these are general questions, not DYK failures. Overall it is an interesting list. Thanks for considering. Flibirigit (talk) 00:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Hiya thanks for the comments, I probably won't be able to respond until Monday at the earliest. Mujinga (talk) 09:07, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
So to reply:
"Which sources are there that satisfy WP:LISTN?" well i would go by the first criterion of WP:CSC, namely "Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia" (although there are a few independently notable entries without their own wikipage). I'm not sure the list itself needs to be notable but if it does yes those BBC and Guardian links would serve.
"There appears to be no introduction according to WP:SALLEAD" - I did read and follow this guideline (as well as examining some featured lists) but it's my first proper attempt at a stand-alone list which I'd like to bring to featured status so any feedback is welcome, happy to change/add stuff on specific points. I do feel that I've given background info and the selection criteria in that first paragraph, as the guideline suggests.
"Is there a reason why the list is not chronological as per WP:SALORDER?" - this isn't currently a chronological list.
"Is there a reason why the article is called "List", but the actual list is called "Table"?" - this I did purely to avoid repetition, but I've changed the table title to "List". Mujinga (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
There has definitely been a lot of work put into this list and I see potential to become a featured list. I still feel that the list should have a lead section which highlights the criteria for inclusion into the list, and explains in a sentence why the list is important. Flibirigit (talk) 15:31, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Reviewing... since I see there have been changes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:09, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Overall: List was moved to the mainspace on July 6 and nominated within time. Length of prose is adequate. Sourcing requirements are met for the prose and list. Prose and list are neutral in tone. No plagiarism issues detected. Hooks are reasonably interesting, properly cited inline and verified with the sources. All images used in the list are properly licensed on the Commons. The nominated photos are clear at a low resolution and would enhance the hooks. QPQ requirement met. Flibirigit (talk) 00:31, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
This is not a full review yet, anyone else is welcome to comment. I have some general questions. Which sources are there that satisfy WP:LISTN? In other words, is just the these two articles here and here, which talk about the list as a whole? There appears to be no introduction according to WP:SALLEAD, and just a really long block of text which is difficult to read. Is there a reason why the list is not chronological as per WP:SALORDER? Is there a reason why the article is called "List", but the actual list is called "Table"? Again, these are general questions, not DYK failures. Overall it is an interesting list. Thanks for considering. Flibirigit (talk) 00:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Reviewing... since I see there have been changes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:09, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
List was moved to the mainspace on July 6 and nominated within time. Length of prose is adequate. Sourcing requirements are met for the prose and list. Prose and list are neutral in tone. No plagiarism issues detected. Hooks are reasonably interesting, properly cited inline and verified with the sources. All images used in the list are properly licensed on the Commons. The nominated photos are clear at a low resolution and would enhance the hooks. QPQ requirement met. Flibirigit (talk) 00:31, 15 August 2020 (UTC)