Template:Did you know nominations/J. Mohammed Imam

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 07:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

J. Mohammed Imam[edit]

  • ... that the Muslim League politician J.M. Imam was awarded the title "Mushir ul-Mulk" by the Maharaja of Mysore in 1945?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nominated at 10:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC).

  • This article is new enough and long enough. The hook fact is appropriately sourced, QPQ has been done and I observed no policy issues. What is the significance of the title "Mushir ul-Mulk"?
Pulled from prep; a translation of this honorific will be required or a new hook found, thanks Gatoclass (talk) 12:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Adding icon to prevent repromotion; issues need to be addressed per Gatoclass. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Could be something like 'National Advisor' or 'Councillor of the Kingdom'. --Soman (talk) 16:01, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
  • @ Soman. Mushir al Mulk is an Islamic title, and Islam traditionally uses Arabic as a common language. According to Google Translate, in Arabic (مشير) mushir means marshal. Mulk (ملك) means king. So Mushir al Mulk would mean marshal to whatever leader might be in place. This would fit with the WP article Mushir although that article is limited to the title's use in Iraq, not India. I cannot guarantee that this is the answer you are looking for, so please would you kindly check this, and your own sources, and put a translation link or an explanation into the article? Then we can complete the review of this nom. --Storye book (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I have now been told that Mushir ul Mulk means "advisor to the kingdom" in India according to this source, and "minister" in Persia/Iran. That source apparently backs up your own translation. When you have decided on the correct meaning and put it in the article, we can continue with this nom. Thank you. --Storye book (talk) 08:22, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

ALT1, ... that the Muslim League politician J.M. Imam was awarded the title Mushir ul-Mulk ('Advisor of the Kingdom') by the Maharaja of Mysore in 1945? --Soman (talk) 14:17, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

  • Original review (by Cwmhiraeth according to history) still stands and I take it on trust. ALT1 is sourced to citations #1, #7 and #8. 1 and 7 are offline, and in #8 the requisite page is offline, so verification is taken AGF. Translation of title is now in hook and in article - thank you, Soman. Issues raised by Gatoclass are now resolved. Good to go (again). --Storye book (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)