Template:Did you know nominations/Horsey Island

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:21, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Horsey Island[edit]

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~~... that Horsey Island is the easternmost inhabited island in Britain, not Mersea Island?^[1]~~

Reviewed: Disappearance of Donald James Cavanaugh and David Virgil Neily

5x expanded by Ritchie333 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 10 October 2016 (UTC).

There's a problem with the hook. If "Britain" means Great Britain then that is itself an island and so Horsey Island would be separate. If "Britain" means the UK then it has lots of islands overseas such as Diego Garcia. It might be better to say the British Isles rather than Britain but you should then add this island to the List of islands of the British Isles which purports to list all its inhabited islands. Andrew D. (talk) 17:54, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

We could say "the easternmost inhabited island in England"; though the source says Britain, that could resolve it. I realise this is a bit of a controversial DYK, particularly as Mersea Island council does use "easternmost inhabited island" as an advertising point, and the hook would not go down well with them, but verifiable is verifiable. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:09, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Horsey appears in the list of islands of England but not in the section which lists them by population. We perhaps also need to check for oddities like Sealand but that one's not legally an island. Andrew D. (talk) 18:41, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

This source shows Tendring District Council allocating a polling station to Horsey Island in Thorpe-Le-Soken as part of the Beaumont & Thorpe parish, which implies at least one permanent resident (shades of this?) There must be something on the ONS website that confirms population and area (so I can update that first list article upthread), but their search mechanism is beyond me. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:53, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333, my trusty copy of Islands of Essex by Ian Yearsley confirms that Horsey was still inhabited as of 2000. "Easternmost inhabited island" sounds like total hooey to me for either Horsey or Mersea; there are numerous inhabited islands in and around Horning and Wroxham, for instance, which are quite a bit further east than any part of Essex, while depending on how you define "island" Lowestoft itself (the easternmost point of all) is on an island bounded by the Waveney, Yare and North Sea. Are you sure your source for "easternmost inhabited island" isn't talking about the islands around Horsey, Norfolk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iridescent (talk • contribs) 09:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

The source is definitely about Essex; it refers to the Wade, Arthur Ransome, Hedge End Island and salt marshes that are all part of this subject. In terms of islands around the Broads, there's this one at Horning that's home to the local sailing club but I don't think anyone lives there; the land surrounded by Oulton Broad, the Waveney, Breydon Water and the Yare is unquestionably an island, plus there's Cobholm Island, so that's our answer, I think. So points to Iridescent. As for what to do with this nomination....

ALT1 ... that Horsey Island in Essex was the basis for Swallow Island in Arthur Ransome's Secret Water? Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 09:27, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

Full review needed now that hook is set. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:29, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Right then, article of sufficient size and age, Earwig's copyvio clear, hook cited and faithful to source. Article has plenty of inline citations. QPQ done. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:55, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

References

^ Fautley, M.P.B.; Garon, J.H. (2004). Essex Coastline: Then and Now. Matthew Fautley. ISBN 978-0-954-80100-7. ...it holds the distinction of being the easternmost inhabited island in Britain" (p. 33), "Mersea Island is sometimes incorrectly claimed to be the easternmost inhabited island in Britain, although this distinction is in fact held by Horsey Island (p.71)

[1] Fautley, M.P.B.; Garon, J.H. (2004). Essex Coastline: Then and Now. Matthew Fautley. ISBN 978-0-954-80100-7. ...it holds the distinction of being the easternmost inhabited island in Britain" (p. 33), "Mersea Island is sometimes incorrectly claimed to be the easternmost inhabited island in Britain, although this distinction is in fact held by Horsey Island (p.71)

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