Template:Did you know nominations/Hanna Cavinder

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Edge3 (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Hanna Cavinder

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Cavinder as a high school basketball player

... that Hanna and twin sister Haley Cavinder made over $1million in student athlete compensation within the first year of NCAA legalization of monetizing personality rights? Source: https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/cavinder-twins-now-millionaires-have-message-for-haters/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Charles Sorby
- Comment: 7th of 10 QPQs for this nomination

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 20:30, 19 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hanna Cavinder; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Seeking advice on use of the twins as a subject versus use of Cavinder as a subject in this article.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:35, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll review this. SmartSE (talk) 17:17, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: I can't see any problems with the article or the hook but could the hook be made a bit sharper? Is it necessary to include NCAA? My preference would be to avoid abbreviations which those of us outside the USA aren't likely to recognise. Also add a space between 1 and million, or maybe just say one million dollars? SmartSE (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
  - ALT1... that twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over 1 million dollars in student athlete compensation within the first year of National Collegiate Athletic Association legalization of monetizing personality rights by student athletes? Source: https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/cavinder-twins-now-millionaires-have-message-for-haters/--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:51, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
  - ALT2... that within the first year of National Collegiate Athletic Association legalization of monetizing personality rights by student athletes, twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over 1 million dollars in student athlete compensation?
  - Please comment further on "Is it necessary to include NCAA"-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:51, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
    - @TonyTheTiger: Sorry about the delay in responding. Either of those are ALTs are better in my opinion and but I think ALT1 is the better one. I think it is necessary to include National Collegiate Athletic Association since they were the ones to legalise it. SmartSE (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
      - @TonyTheTiger and Smartse: under WP:RSP, The New York Post isn't a reliable source – the amount of money made by two living people certainly requires something better. Is there another source for the claim? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 17:08, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
        user:theleekycauldron, I have swapped out the ref.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
        @TonyTheTiger: that source says "reportedly", so the article and the hook would have to be updated to match. theleekycauldron (talk •contribs) (she/her) 04:51, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: My bad for not spotting that, although the information did come direct from their agent. @TonyTheTiger: This from Forbes (and not WP:FORBESCON) looks like a better source than the one you've swapped it for. That repeats the NYP info (which is therefore fine to include) but also has their own estimate of $1.7m. SmartSE (talk) 14:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I think this is now fixed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
@Smartse:-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:15, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- @TonyTheTiger: Thanks. Good to go SmartSE (talk) 10:11, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Smartse and TonyTheTiger: Both ALT1 and ALT2 exceed 200 characters. To help with this, I suggest replacing "dollars" with the dollar sign ($), among other fixes. Edge3 (talk) 15:26, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Additionally, would you like to submit images for this nomination? Both images are of high quality, and I especially like the photo with the two sisters. No guarantees that they will be used on the Main Page, but it doesn't hurt to try. Edge3 (talk) 15:28, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

The picture of the two of them would not be appropriate for the main page for the sister in the background (Hanna). I don't think the main image really looks like how she presents herself now. She is mostly posts a lot of thirst trap pics that flaunt her curvy hip area and her blonde hair. The main bio image is from when she was purely a basketball player. However, as a subject, she would be a great lead image. I think it would likely get 10k plus views a main image even without a thirst trap image. It might be good for the main page to have an image for her. I'd be happy to nominate her main image (File:Hanna Cavinder (cropped).jpg).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:05, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
Please review images.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:13, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
- - ALT1a... that twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over $1 million student athlete compensation within the first year of National Collegiate Athletic Association legalization of monetizing personality rights by student athletes?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:08, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
  - ALT2a... that within the first year of National Collegiate Athletic Association legalization of monetizing personality rights by student athletes, twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over $1 million in student athlete compensation?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:08, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

You're still over 200 characters. I suggested "replacing "dollars" with the dollar sign ($), among other fixes." Would it be better to just use the NCAA abbreviation? Edge3 (talk) 03:29, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

- - ALT1b... that twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over $1 million in first year student athlete compensation after the National Collegiate Athletic Association legalized monetizing personality rights?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:10, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
  - ALT2b... that after the National Collegiate Athletic Association legalized monetizing personality rights, twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over $1 million in first year student athlete compensation?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:10, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the fixes. I'm going to do a minor copyedit and

restore the previous tick. ALT1c "... that twin sisters Haley and Hanna Cavinder made over $1 million in student athlete compensation the year after the National Collegiate Athletic Association legalized monetizing personality rights?" Edge3 (talk) 15:12, 29 June 2023 (UTC)