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The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

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Hárshegy

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View from Hárshegy of Budapest
View from Hárshegy of Budapest
Observation tower in Hárshegy, Budapest
Observation tower in Hárshegy, Budapest
  • ... that in Budapest's Hárshegy neighborhood, the Bátori Cave has been used both to mine iron ore, and as a hermitage? Phillips, Adrian; Scotchmer, Jo (2009). Budapest - City Guide. Bradt Travel Guides. p. 285. ISBN 9781841621852.

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 17:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Nice little article, but about what? Good sources, Hungarian sources accepted AGF. The image is licensed, but looks rather abstract in stamp size. I prefer the original hook. Now to the article. When I read "neighbourhood" (UK English please?), I expect people living there, but the article tells us nothing. It seems a bit arbitrary what went to the lead, and what to the body. Please sort it out for me and others readers: What is it, briefly, in the lead, and history, and naming history two sections. - Thank you for the offer of a qpq, but given some time, I'll manage my own ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I just swapped out the image to a less "muddled" one, and a new corresponding hook. --evrik (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The image is much better, but pictures no hills, - please reword. The article hasn't changed much. How about moving the description from almost the end to the first line: "The area is a popular place for recreation, including camping and hiking", before surprising by a children's railway first thing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I ran out of time earlier. I reworded a hook, and have reorg'ed the article a bit. I think it flows better. Thoughts? --evrik (talk) 21:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Striking the first 2 as the others are better. I am not sure "sweeping" is encyclopedic enough. Will look at the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Almost ready to strike ALT2 also, because Budapest is not recognizable this size. For ALT3, you need to find a way not to say "the towers" and then picture one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The article flows better. Can you make "Lindenberg" less of a surprise? Please avoid "popular" in two sentences in a row. I suggest ALT4 to just copy from the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The "commanding view" image is not yet part of the article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Copy edits made. Images added. --evrik (talk) 21:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Much improved, but I still don't know when the name Lindenberg came in, and people not reading German will not know it's for a tree. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
    After the defeat of the Ottomans, the Hapsburgs ruled the area, I imagine that's when the area was given a German name. None of the sources I can find discuss this, they go discuss the move to a Hungarian name in the mid 19th century ... and that is cited in the article. --evrik (talk) 16:57, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Understand. Here's an ALT3 for you,
  • ALT3a: ... that the hills of Hárshegy (observation tower pictured) offer commanding views of Budapest?
  • Hook okay with me. --evrik (talk) 05:55, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
  • - prefer that one, naturally ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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