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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vanamonde (Talk) 09:42, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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Carla (singer)

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  • ... that Carla's coach at the Voice Kids France did not want her to release an albuma record?
    • ALT1:... that Carla's fans were disappointed with her choice to cover Disney songs?

Created/expanded by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 23:49, 29 October 2019 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes

QPQ: No - Still needed.
Overall: feminist (talk) 11:38, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT0, but the article doesn't give any more information than the hook. Could you add the reason why she didn't want her to release an album? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:04, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: It looks like she thought Carla wasn't ready. The article I used as a source says that Jenifer was strongly opposed to Carla releasing a record and that she told that to Carla. And it mentions that the day after her victory Carla said that she was "too young" and wanted to "wait a few years" before releasing an album. Should I try to find some additional info? --Moscow Connection (talk) 00:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 00:30, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • It's not that simple, I need some time. All the outlets are citing the same interview. --Moscow Connection (talk) 07:48, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Moscow Connection: why don't you just add a sentence from the source, like: The day after her victory, Carla stated that she was "too young" and wanted to "wait a few years" before releasing an album? Yoninah (talk) 12:46, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: That's not just that. The sources talk about how fame can harm young people and explain that that is why The Voice Kids France winners don't get a recording contract, but a scholarship or scholarship money (I forgot). And there's another thing... Jenifer says "album", but she also mentions the single that Carla is planning to release and it looks like she doesn't approve. So it looks like Jenifer doesn't want Carla to release anything at all. (Actually, she seems to be ready to help Carla a bit anyway, but she doesn't approve.) And some sources (here's a good one) do say that she doesn't want her to release even a single. So I think I understood Jenifer correctly. And after saying that Jenifer is against Carla releasing a record, some sources say that Carla wants to release a single "no matter what".
    And, by the way, the single that Carla planned to release back in 2014 didn't see the light of day. There's a later interview where she explains that she couldn't find a song she liked. She also says that she likes to sing in English.
    I don't know how to put all this in the article. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:43, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Moscow Connection: all I'm asking is that if you make a statement, follow it up with another sentence explaining or clarifying it. If the first sentence says Jenifer advised against releasing an album, the next sentence should say why, or what her thoughts were about the idea. Then a third sentence could say that nevertheless, Carla does want to release a single. We're just presenting facts; it's not up to us to interpret them. Yoninah (talk) 18:52, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • "What her thoughts were about the idea."
    — Okay, but I don't know how to put this... I will try now. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • I will now insert all the sources I could find, and then I'll see. I think the current version is okay. I will also add a quote from Jenifer who said "album". (I don't really get why Jenifer says "album" and it is interpreted as "any record, even a single", but I think French journalists know better.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 23:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I think the article is okay now. (I can't say I like it, but it's okay.) Please take a look.
    I must say I'm a bit confused as to why it is that Jenifer said "album" and the media said she didn't want Carla to release even a single. But I guess the French media know better and they understood her correctly. Anyway, the hook still says "album". --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, the article looks much better now, thanks, Moscow Connection. ALT0 is the better hook IMO, but since Jenifer was talking about a single rather than an album, I've changed it to "a record". Foreign-language ref AGF and cited inline. Rest of review per Feminist. ALT0 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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