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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:14, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355

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  • ... that the Black Prince's chevauchée of 1355 marched 600 miles from Bordeaux to the Mediterranean and back through enemy territory without meeting any opposition? Source: Sumption, Jonathon (1999). Trial by Fire. The Hundred Years' War. II. London: Faber and Faber. ISBN 0-571138969 pp. 179, 181–184; Burne, Alfred (1999) [1955]. The Crecy War. Ware, Hertfordshire: Wordsworth Editions. ISBN 978-1840222104 pp. 254, 255–258.

Improved to Good Article status by Gog the Mild (talk). Self-nominated at 16:20, 18 July 2019 (UTC).

  • Recent GA, of the usual high quality by Gog the Mild. QPQ done. DYK hook is interesting and checks out, although I would perhaps suggest adding "on the Atlantic coast" or something like that after Bordeaux, as many readers won't know why the Mediterranean is significant. Otherwise I would suggest replacing "the Mediterranean" with "Narbonne", also per the article lede. Furthermore, "without meeting any opposition" is perhaps a tad exaggerated, as there appear to have been clashes on the way ("The two advance guards met in a fierce clash on 20 November") and certainly there was a French army often present, although no pitched battle took place. I would suggest toning this down just a bit.
  • I might also propose an:

ALT1: "... that in 1355, the English marched over 600 miles (1,000 km) through French territory and took so much plunder that they discarded silver objects to be better able to carry off gold and jewellery?" Source: Rogers, Clifford J (1994). "Edward III and the Dialectics of Strategy, 1327-1360". Transactions of the Royal Historical Society. 4: 83–102. JSTOR 3679216. OCLC 931311378 p. 100. Constantine ✍ 19:38, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

  • Hi Constantine, many thanks for looking this over. I like ALT1. Can we scrap ALT0 and just go with that? Gog the Mild (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Of course, and you are welcome ;-). That's good to go then Constantine ✍ 19:53, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Nice hook, Cplakidas, but per Rule H2, you cannot approve your own hook. Could another reviewer take a look at this? Yoninah (talk) 20:40, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Ha. Just my luck. It is now an FA and it is still waiting for DYK. Apologies Yoninah, I should have realised that. I was carried away by the neatness of the hook. I have added the source. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:58, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Review: Article is long/new enough, sources are reliable, there are no obvious copyright violations, hook is interesting, article is neutral, and QPQ has been done. I have a question about the distance cited here. Was it 600 miles because they went from Gascony to Narbonne (and back)? "600" isn't technically cited in the article, though 300 is. I don't know if we should assume they took the exact same route back. Now, in order for this to be approved, I think we should add the km equivalent too. Please ping me when this is fixed. MX (✉ • ✎) 18:13, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi MX. Thanks for looking this over. The total distance, 675 miles, is given on page 258 of Burne, details by ALT0. Distance in km added. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

  • @Gog the Mild: Thanks for the quick response. Can you check the update I made in the article? I want to make sure the hook is cited inline so we can promote this. Congrats on the FA status! MX (✉ • ✎) 19:05, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi MX. I have tweaked the wording a little, to better match the source. (It was/is in the appropriate place.) Thank you; 55 days from moving to main space to becoming a FA - I even impressed myself . It seems odd to be getting, I hope, DYK approval a week after FA promotion. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:29, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • Perfect! Ready for the main page. MX (✉ • ✎) 21:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
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