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"Government statement"[edit]

As we have discovered, there was no Government statement as such, just a quote from an unnamed civil servant (I've cut and pasted this from Historic Counties of England):

Quoted in The Times of 1 April 1974:

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According to a Department of the Environment official, the new county boundaries are solely for the purpose of defining areas of first-level government of the future:"They are administrative areas and will not alter the traditional boundaries of counties, nor is it intended that the loyalties of people living in them will change."

Citing Middlesex as an example, he said that although that county had been swallowed up in Greater London in 1965 and disappeared for governmental purposes, the name still exists for postal and other reasons. "Similarly the broad acres known as Yorkshire will remain unaltered despite the different names adopted by the new administrative counties." ^[1]

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Trying to figure out how to incorporate this into the article, which at the moment contains a mis-quote

Lozleader 11:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ White Rose ties hold fast despite amputation and shake-up of boundaries, by Raymond Gledhill, The Times, April 1, 1974

Copyright violation?[edit]

Actually the whole article is almost word for word taken from [1]. The article was deleted last week for copyvio of that site. Lozleader 11:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm minded to speedy delete it. Morwen - Talk 12:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, that's all sorted now, and offending text removed from the history. Morwen - Talk 12:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Holt[edit]

Mr Holt is deceased. He had an obituary on Radio 4 last May. [2] Lozleader 11:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Formation[edit]

Would it be original research to note this seems to have been the earliest such county group formed? (or at least the earliest to appear in the Times - the Lancashire group seems to pop up in the 1980s/1990s, Huntingdonshire in 1997). Alas, I think it probably would be. Morwen - Talk 12:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

interestingly, enough it seemed more radical in its early days, calling for extensive local government reform. In 1977 they were calling for a provincial assembly and tha abolition of north, South and West Yorkshire county councils.Lozleader 12:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having successfully campaigned for the abolition of the plastic counties, Cleveland and Humberside. the Yorkshire Ridings Society has since concentrated on promoting the erection of boundary signs to denote the Ridings of Yorkshire. It recognises that local government boundaries need to change from time to time but they should not be referred to as counties. They are units for local government administration. YRS campaigns for real County boundaries to be signposted and shown on maps alongside Local Government boundaries.

YRS believes that the answer is to accept that England’s 39 geographic counties should remain for all cultural, ceremonial, sporting and postal purposes. It is so simple and costs nothing. We get a stable geography, easily identified by clear natural boundaries and forever afterwards if the bureaucrats at Whitehall decide that we need to alter local government boundaries nobody feels they have lost their indenity. last two paragraphs added by Chris Abbott current Chairman of the Yorkshire Ridings Society.Adde—Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.197.152 (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date of founding[edit]

I get 877 by subtracting the "years of existence" from the current year on the website. However, nothing especially interesting seems to have happened to Jorvik in 877 as opposed to the year before, 876, wherein the throne was taken. The "Yorkshire Code" claims that the boundaries and Ridings date back that far - I'd be interested in knowing when the first actual historical record of the ridings is. How do they deal with Yorkshire's extent in the Domesday Book? Morwen - Talk 14:26, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The date of 876 is arrived at by allowing for the changes made by the adoption of the Gregorian Calendar. 876 is thought to be the year when the first written reference to the Ridings appeared in the Anglo Saxon Chronicles. It refers to the men of the Ridings being called to a meeting at York.

Current YRS website is http://www.yorkshireridings.org

Last two paragraphs added by Chris Abbott, current Chairman of the Yorkshire Ridings Society,

The website is now at: http://yorkshireridingssociety.org.uk/ Hogweard (talk) 19:32, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Yorkshire Ridings Society/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

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Change references to use one of the {{Cite}} templates

Keith D 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 21:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 11:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

[1] White Rose ties hold fast despite amputation and shake-up of boundaries, by Raymond Gledhill, The Times, April 1, 1974

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