Talk:Xiong Shili

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Great job - the one comment I have is about the red links on the page. This denotes a dead link, which means there isn't a page on wikipedia for your hyperlink. You can solve this by simply editing the brackets out from around the word. This will keep the sentence in tact, just removing the hyperlink. Otherwise, well written and I like your quick-info box at the top of the page.

DyzySyzygy (talk) 02:07, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have (re?)introduced some of the "red" links since they are useful:

They indicate that English Wikipedia still needs an article on the object of discussion;
They allow to automatically find the relationship between Xiong Shili and the red-marked personalities by clicking on the "What links here" tool of the Toolbox.

Concern Surrounding the Comparison to Plato[edit]

It seems unfair to call upon Plato's idea of forms as a comparison to Xiong Shili's ideas about substance. Although it is true that both of them are essentially addressing questions about the nature of reality their approach is so different that I don't think the comparison you make is fair. You basically claim that Xiong Shili's ideas allows for "dynamism" and Plato doesn't. However, Plato's ideas don't exclude the possibility for substances to change constantly. He just is concerned with finding their ideal form. The idea that reality is an ocean doesn't conflict with the idea that the waves of that ocean have an ideal form. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammcallister (talk • contribs) 02:13, 14 May 2012 (UTC) --Sammcallister (talk) 02:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Influences[edit]

I think you did a phenomenal job in describing and summarizing his biography and philosophy. However, I think a big part of Xiong Shili as an individual is his tremendous influence on New Confucian philosophers. Seeing that many philosophers have an "Influence" section, I think it'd be helpful to include that aspect into the page. I think a controversy section may also be helpful because of the amount of controversy that Xiong Shili went through near his death as his ideals were broken by the political movements in China. comment added by sopamika (talk 22:26, 15 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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plagarism?[edit]

I think a part of the text is lifted verbatim, or close to it, from the source cited:

"After the founding of the People’s Republic of China, Xiong stayed on the mainland and continued to lecture at Peking University. While he wasn’t required to criticize his earlier thinking in terms of Marxism, and he even received government funding in publishing some of his writings after 1949, he was still subjected to physical abuse at the beginning of the Cultural Revolution. After seeing Confucianism suffer another cultural and political blow, he died at the age of 84 in 1968."

the source cited is:

" "Xiong Shili's Metaphysics of Virtue". In Cheng, Zhongying; Bunnin, Nicholas. Contemporary Chinese Philosophy. Malden, Massachusetts: Blackwell Publishers."

It's a good source but it is best practice to at least change the wording a bit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.58.110.115 (talk) 23:07, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]