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Did you know... that Winchester Highlands station was used for church meetings in the 1880s?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Winchester Highlands station was used for church meetings in the 1880s? Source: Boston Globe, church history)

Reviewed: Jimmy Carter

Created by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Article is new, long enough, and without major issues. Hook is interesting, verified, and within length. QPQ supplied. Two minor issues: Don't we have an approximate date for the demolition of the building? The sentence, "The station building is no longer extant," dropped between two past tense events, reads rather awkwardly, as it breaks the chronological flow. Also, the Church website seems to imply that the meetings at the station had gone on for some time before the Sunday School was established in 1881, and the Boston Globe is a bit vague on what the date represents. The hook just says 1880s, so it's fine. Good to go. --Paul_012 (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. I have a few more sources to add, one of which clarifies the date of the station building closure (and presumably demolition) as 1942. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:29, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To T:DYK/P2

Town rumors[edit]

Growing up in Winchester and going through the public schools, I remember being told by different people/teachers at different times over the years that (1) the Highlands Station and the Wincehster Center station are "the two closest train stations in the world" and (2) that the reason they are so close is that a wealthy person -- in one version I heard, it was a railroad magnate -- lived right near the Highlands station and insisted on having a stop built near his house.

I'm curious if there's any truth to either rumor or if they're just local legends. It does sound from the current article as if the existence of the station is, in part, due to a wealthy patron.75.68.178.121 (talk) 17:56, 30 September 2021 (UTC)mjgilbert[reply]

That old yarn concerns Wedgemere and Winchester Center, which are about 2,500 feet apart; Winchester Center and Winchester Highlands are well over a mile apart. It's not true; even on the existing system, several station pairs (Wyoming and Cedar Park; Bellevue, Highland, and West Roxbury) are closer than 2,500 feet. Historically, station spacings were even closer; perhaps the record in the Boston area was Melville Avenue and Centre Street, just 1,000 feet apart. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:24, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 00:45, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should be able to review this in a few hours from now. Claiming this now just in case anyone else nabs this! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 00:45, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you so soon! I have left some comments below. As you know by now, please do ping me once you have addressed my concerns so that I can know when to reevaluate. Thanks, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 05:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: Thanks for the review! Your ability to thoroughly review so many articles is impressive and much appreciated. My comments below. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As are your quick responses; I get to review more articles on a quicker basis that way! I am happy with your changes and can now pass this article for GA status. Congrats! 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 06:21, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check[edit]

Earwig says good to go.

Files[edit]

All images are relevant, of good quality, and copyright-free:

File:Winchester Highlands station, circa 1915.jpg: valid public domain rationale;
File:Derailment at Winchester Highlands (1), May 1923.jpg: valid public domain rationale.

Prose[edit]

"and two other low-ridership stations were closed" – word usage looks slightly informal here (unless its rail jargon?); may I suggest "stations with low ridership" instead?
- Done
"Most intermediate stations were added by 1850, though some were added later." – as the sentence starts with most, is the latter line necessary?
- Reworded to clarify a bit - I wanted to make it clear that this wasn't one of the early ones.
  - Oh I see! Thanks for the change.
"a flag stop with a smaller wooden shelter," – wikilink flag stop.
- Done
"(as the tracks were on an embankment);" – probably wikilink to embankment (earthworks); I thought it was near a river at first!
- Done
There are duplicate refs at the end of the sentence starting "the lower level housed the station agent and his family."
- Done
"4 round trips in 1946, 2½ in 1952, and 1½ in 1957." – I am confused; what is half a round trip exactly?
- A one-way trip - a bit jargony, unfortunately. There's no other simple way to state it, so I added a slightly wordy clarification.
  - I like the way you fixed it.
"1943-built shelter is no longer extant." – I have never seen such usage before (keep it if it is academic standard in American English); recommend "The shelter built in 1943 is no longer extant."
- Done Not improper in en-us, but I've reworded to clarify.

Refs[edit]

All sources cited are RS. Passes spotcheck on refs 1, 4, 9, 14, 17, 23 and 25.

Use template:cite map for ref 7.
- Done
Ref 28 appears to be an incorrect link.
- Done

Other[edit]

Short description, external links, coords, cats and infobox all good.

Recommend adding template:use mdy dates
- Done
Recommend adding template:use X English
- Done

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