Talk:Winchester Cathedral

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Obituaries[edit]

I'm looking for a list of those in Winchester Cathedral. Thanks! --DLL 13:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saint Swithun[edit]

"The cathedral also contains a shrine to Saint Swithun, a 9th century bishop"

I was in Winchester Cathedral yesterday and I'm fairly sure I heard someone say St Swithun was no longer in the cathedral. Can anyone verify this and update accordingly? --Sierro 11:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC) The original shrine of the Saint and all his remaining relics were destroyed in 1538 by Henry VIIIs Commission for the Destruction of Shrines. In the link just added is a picture of the pilgrims hole beneath the retroquire which pilgrims once used to get close to the holy relics. You can see the discolouration and almost feel the impact of so many hands upon the stone there, WyrdLight 16:22, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whoah![edit]

They managed to convert a transept into the smallest state in Europe - nice. There's some special effects I've got to see.

Events[edit]

Do you really think the funeral of Alan Ball ranks with those other events? Theshoveljockey 20:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't, I think it should be discarded. With all due respect to Alan Ball, I don't think he ranks with some of the most important historical figures in England. --Floydiac 22:34, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Info Box[edit]

...is causing gaps in the text, but only on wide monitors, this time. Amandajm (talk) 08:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

I noticed that one editor included a map that indicated the location of the cathedral. This feature is very useful for those who are unfamiliar with Britain. I, for one, regret that it was removed. Michael Glass (talk) 02:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I've added a map to the infobox, for future reference here's how. Nev1 (talk) 02:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you click on the fourth word in the opening line of the lede you will get the very same map. It does not show where in the city the cathedral is so there is really no need to duplicate it here. It is just too much info in the box.--Charles (talk) 10:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of organists[edit]

This list should probably be deleted. Keeping the names (probably "hidden") of pastors might be justified, but surely not organists! Student7 (talk) 20:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you to be honest. I can't see a good reason to include them. Just be glad the situation isn't as bad as Durham Cathedral, where they don't just have a list of organists, but assistants too. Nev1 (talk) 22:34, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I probably should have checked the article here before opening my mouth: its list of organists and ancillaries is longer than in the Durham Cathedral article. The article on Chester Cathedral is in a good state and doesn't have the list. Nev1 (talk) 23:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it. Just an excuse to list a lot of WP:NN people which is quite wrong. Notables could be listed separately, I suppose. Student7 (talk) 19:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fedorov, Fox & Cathedral[edit]

Hello - the following links provided to the article from 2006 were removed editorially because of a question of conflict of interest. These links are to single topic web pages without adverts developed through personal interest in the Cathedral and I suggest are in keeping with wiki policy about external links. On this basis they are re-submitted for your consideration and reinsertion:

Thirty images of Winchester Cathedral with descriptions
Images of Fedorov's Iconostasis at Winchester Cathedral
Panorama style image of all statuary on Bishop Fox Chantry Chapel at Winchester Cathedral

WyrdLight (talk) 14:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC) There has been no editorial comment about these links however the one leading to images of the Iconostasis is referenced (not by me) in the article text and hence I've reinstated it WyrdLight (talk) 20:40, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image Update & Image Added[edit]

Hello - I've replaced the header image with one that gives a better idea of the appearance of the Cathedral. Taken at 4am this shows the west end, the central tower and gives an idea of the reach of the 2nd longest cathedral nave in England. Additionally I've inserted for consideration an image showing the nominal shrine to St Swithun with retroquire behind shoing the iconostatis. I've uploaded 1000px images as this gives an idea on the St Swithun image of the embossed text on the shrine. NB: the Holy Hole is visible below the iconostasis and this was the means by which pilgrims entered his shrine lay below the relics of St Swithun before thier removal and ultimate destruction. Hope these images add to the article. WyrdLight (talk) 13:31, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additional citations[edit]

Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 01:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In a nutshell articles need sources to show readers where the information has come from; it's outlined in more detail at Wikipedia:Verifiability. There are plenty of tags in the article highlighting what needs sourcing (probably more than is necessary) but a rule of thumb is if it's not common knowledge it needs a reference. For English local history the Victoria County History is a valuable resource and fortunately the volume on Winchester is online and the text on the cathedral can be found here. Nev1 (talk) 01:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stained Glass[edit]

Added image of window consistent with text and then noted there is a gallery of stained glass images in the Commons - so keep, replace or discard as you choose. 31.52.150.134 (talk) 15:44, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Royal remains[edit]

With the investigations into the remains of Richard III and Alfred the Great is there any discussion as to investigating the 'several displaced royal remains'? Jackiespeel (talk) 13:51, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Setting for the Barsetshire Chronicles?[edit]

The article states: 'The cathedral was the setting for works of fiction by Anthony Trollope, for example, his novels of 19th-century church life known collectively as the Chronicles of Barsetshire.[citation needed]' However, the website of The Trollope Society says that the first novel in the series, The Warden, was inspired by a visit to Salisbury. Please look at this:

'In May 1852, Trollope's Post Office duties took him to Salisbury. In An Autobiography, the author recalled standing on the parapet of a small bridge and 'whilst wandering there one evening round the purlieus of the cathedral, I conceived the story of The Warden'. A year later the completed manuscript, then still titled The Precentor, landed on the desk of the publisher Longmans.

Their reader reported back to his employers:

'This story takes its rise from the recent exposé of the abuses that have crept into Cathedral and Hospital Trusts.' http://www.trollopesociety.org/barset.php

There seems to be a contradiction here. Norvo (talk) 20:56, 7 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Mortuary Chests[edit]

Latest investigations with regard to the mortuary chests have identified approximately 1,300 bones and up to twenty-five individuals buried in the chests. Further details may be found here: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/remains-of-11th-century-queen-found_uk_5cdc1da2e4b061f71b88f0e6 I will add a brief comment to the article mentioning the latest discoveries. Ds1994 (talk) 07:48, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Library[edit]

I think the library, if that is the right name, could be mentioned with advantage. My memory of it is poor, but it was well worth seeing for its manuscripts and its beautiful illuminated Bible. Seadowns (talk) 23:31, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to do so, with appropriate reference. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 07:40, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Wilson[edit]

There is a claim in the article that Bill Wilson, founder of AA, had a divine experience in the cathedral in 1918. Famously, his revelation happened in a New York clinic in 1934. I can find no mention of him being in Winchester at any time, what is the source of this claim? Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:13, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]