Talk:Wiley (musician)

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godfather of crime?[edit]

Im pretty sure he calls himself the 'godfather of Grime' not 'crime' in that he believes he helped start the genre. Source listen to any of his songs he repeats it enough times. Ive just checked the gaurdian source and it sais Grime also this needs to be changed and is possibly slander

Various Information Paste[edit]

Heres some stuff on Wiley that could be used, and more that i haven't added yet.

Needs checking

sites with info

htfr (hard to find records) discogs hyperdub (interview) rwdmag

Dropped from XL recordings? Had a deal as part of Roll Deep with record company that allowed him to continue making white label/underground releases? What happenned in Ayai Napa? Dizzee was stabbed? Other Beefs - Sharkey Major (pussy hole run)

More tracks need research checking

work with dizzee rascal, esp. Boy In Da Corner

We Ain't Having It

Take Time

Fix Up Look Sharp (Remix)

East Connection - We're Ready (wiley Remix)

Ginja Feat Lee-O - Delboys Theme (Wiley Remix)

Wideboys - What Could I Do (Wiley Remix)

Ice Rink

Break It (Roll Deep)

Capsule VIP

Pick Ya Self Up

Dirty Cash

United Grooves Collective - Wind Down Low

Pies

Avalanche

Blizzard

Eskiboy

Eskimo (Devil Mix)

Freeze

Ghetto Speech

Icepole

Igloo (What Do You Call It)

Morgue

Pulse Eskimo / Gunshot Riddim

Skydive

Snowcat

Snowman

Split It Down The Middle

What Can I Say (PAUG)

Frostbyte

Ground Zero

Happens For A Reason

Icy Mountains

Pulse X Dub of Heartless Crew Diss

Roll Out (Ludacris, Wiley Remix)

They Should Know

Blue Rizla

Wiley ft Kano - Baby

Dem Not Ready - (Wiley, dun no, breeze)

You Were Always (Wiley, Tincy Strider)

Boogyman (Wiley, Trim, D Double E)

Other work with Kano (Mic Fight?/Mic Check 1-2?)

Gotta Go Now (Roll Deep)

Times Are Changing (Roll Deep)

Salt Beef

Scorcher

Flow Dan, Big Mic Man

Beefs

So Solid - Illtemper

Radio Stations

Deja Vu, Rinse FM

Choice FM - Asher D vs Dizzee Rascal

Events

Eskimo Dance, Sidewinder

JUS OUTTA INTEREST HOW MUCH DID TREDDIN ON THIN ICE AND DA 2ND PHAZE SELL DID IT DO POORLY OR WAS IT CERTIFIED NETHING

when did wiley beef with kano, he battled him on lord of the mic ut that wasn't beef

do u really need to list his mixtapes there not officle

^^ Yeah they are official, cleaned the discography a tiny bit.

I added an Eskibeat Recordings section with the logo but I don't think it's on point (my opinion anyway), would anyone be able to fix it up a bit. Channel e-d 22:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wiley sounds like a total muppet to be fair.

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Wearing my Rolex[edit]

Just seen the video for this in You Tube, the one with Sir Paul McCartney and Heather Mills, very funny. Can we link to it in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.70.75 (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ban Wiley and dat Rolex. He's got a complex, and it bad from all contex, ban dem Wilex from dem twitex. blaad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.58.35 (talk) 14:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Austrailia Garage?[edit]

Is the spelling of the genre Austrailia Garage correct, or should it be Australia Garage? -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 05:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Roots from India? I've listened to Wiley for almost 10 years and never have I heard he has roots from India. If we're talking relative-wise, that is. Sources?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.165.69.90 (talk) 01:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That is pure tatti innit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.58.35 (talk) 13:13, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Racism - Jay Sean Incident[edit]

It seems to me that this section is somewhat wanting in terms of grammar, neutrality and citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.50.183 (talk) 06:39, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

Can: "Wiley (rapper) be moved to "Wiley (MC), because it says Wiley is an English grime MC?

Corbyn tweets[edit]

The section about his anti-Semitic tweets currently mentions how tweets from Jeremy Corbyn's twitter account thanking Wiley for his political support were deleted afterwards. I think this isn't relevant and should be removed. Public figures have been known to delete tweets, but where else does this get mentioned on wikipedia? This article isn't even about Corbyn. This inclusion seems like a politically motivated attempt to suggest guilt by association. 80.43.243.112 (talk) 21:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terms of Use[edit]

The article currently says he breached Facebook’s ‘terms of conduct and abuse’. This is inaccurate as per the statement made by Facebook, and also Facebook does not have ‘terms of abuse’ - it has terms of use which themselves can be ‘abused’, but not ‘terms of abuse’ which can be broken. Facebook’s statement states he was deleted due to ‘repeated violations’ of their terms of conduct; not ‘abuse’ - which is an inflammatory word not stated by Facebook which has no place in an encyclopaedic entry of this nature. Cbdrolex (talk) 13:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can this be changed to accurately represent Facebook’a statement in neutral language? Cbdrolex (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

MBE[edit]

Somebody has incorrectly removed his MBE. While this may happen in the future, he is still an MBE. Please can someone fix this. Cbdrolex (talk) 13:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, and reinserted. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unbalanced lead[edit]

Let's be clear: Wiley is mainly famous as a racist conspiracy theorist, not as a musician. I realise this might be different in the UK, but that doesn't change things. As a musician who has rarely if ever made it into the charts throughout the world, Wiley is not someone most of us outside the UK had ever heard of before last week. Perhaps a few mentions in media if grime ever was discussed, but certainly no big news. In sharp contrast, his antisemitic outbursts have made headlines in many countries and are the reason many of us non-British first heard of Wiley. As per WP policy, the article and the lead should reflect this. The current lead, making no reference at all to the main reason he's known, would need to substantially rewritten to give as much prominence to his main claim to fame as to his music. Jeppiz (talk) 07:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's be clear - no. Wiley is a musician, and has been since 1996. The fact that he has come to prominence in the last week for racially charged statements does not suddenly change his entire status or career. I agree that an additional comment in the lede may be appropriate, but an insistence that this is "his main claim to fame" is frankly ridiculous and similar to saying we should strip out all that book nonsense from the J. K. Rowling article and just say she's transphobic, because that's what people are talking about right now. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point although the comparison with J.K. Rowling might not be entirely really accurate. She is mainly famous as the author of Harry Potter. It's a safe bet far more people are aware of Harry Potter than the current trans-row, and that we can find much more coverage in RS sources around the world for her authorship of Harry Potter. That's not the case for Wiley, for whom worldwide coverage in RS media is dominated by the current row. Having said that, I do agree it would be equally wrong to make it dominate the lead. I'd recommend a sentence in the first paragraph of the lead, and a paragraph at the end of the lead. Jeppiz (talk) 09:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rowling wasn't intended to be accurate, in fact quite the opposite - it was a facetious comment to highlight the spectre and danger of WP:RECENT. Wiley is a musician who holds controversial opinions, and that's how the article and lede should show him. Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. However Wiley's antisemitism is significant enough to be included in the lead. A single sentence at the end of the last para perhaps?Mr Miles (talk) 10:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There should be *some mention* of Wiley's antisemitism in the lede. It is one of the defining features of his public life. Also "allegations" should be removed from the "allegations of antisemitism". It isn't a court case, it is as well-sourced and factual as anyone is going to get. FerranValls (talk) 22:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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