Talk:Wiese (music producer)

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Requested move 1 July 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that Trygve Wiese be renamed and moved to Wiese.

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Procedural close. The target page is a non-redirect that possesses substantial content. It is therefore not suitable as a "new" title for this article. No prejudice if an editor wants to open a new requested move to a different title, such as the suggested Wiese (musician). (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 04:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Trygve Wiese → Wiese – The artist changed his artist name and does not use Trygve Wiese anymore. After changing his artist name, Wiese has more than 10M+ Spotify plays, millions YouTube views on different music videos and a lot of press articles around this artist. The existing Wiese-page is currently only a disambiguation page gathering other pages with first+last names etc. None of these uses only Wiese so this page that is requested to overtake the Wiese-page is clearly the right one. If not, people have a hard time finding this music producer Tangatarzan (talk) 10:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the proposed move and instead move to Wiese (musician). The artist is not big enough to "overtake" the Wiese name over place names, rivers etc. which all have disambiguators. Geschichte (talk) 09:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not significant enough, and the article is a terrible mess. Edwardx (talk) 11:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this person is not the primary topic for Wiese -- Whpq (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Why is this not notable?[edit]

@Praxidicae: Would you rather have had me reference every single source that is currently in the article in my !vote to satisfy your claim that everyone failed to provide sources? I find that to be ridiculous. In your view, how does this potentially fail GNG/SNG? --Danre98^{(talk^contribs)} 02:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

yes, actually. I would. And because the sources provided are low quality and dubious. Praxidicae (talk) 03:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Praxidicae:I probably should have provided a sourcing analysis in my AFD !vote. I find them sufficient because:

Ref 1 is an article with significant coverage about both Wiese and Me e Viking from Aftenbladet, a reputable Norweigan newspaper. In the article, there was talk about Wiese's song and his journey as an artist.
Ref 2 is a bit shorter, and I consider it to contribute significant coverage of Wiese. The news organization looks reputable.
Ref 3 is paywalled :( but seems at least somewhat significant. Aftanbladet again.
Ref 4 is Spotify so I think this one can be discounted. We don't have articles on stuff just because they are charting on Spotify.
Ref 5 looks like a blog and may not be reliable. Discounted again.
Ref 6 passes the WP:DUCKTEST for a blog with flying colors. Discounted as unreliable.
Ref 7 is an interview, but looks like it is by a reputable organization. There is coverage to be found in statements the interviewer made in the question, but it is trivial. Discounted
Ref 8 has some coverage and probably contributes to notability.

Due to references 1, 2, 3, and 8 in the article (especially the first one), I would consider that it met WP:GNG and I find none of them (1, 2, 3, 8) dubious. --Danre98^{(talk^contribs)} 03:39, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]