Talk:White-necked rockfowl

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jimfbleak (talk · contribs) 06:00, 30 October 2011 (UTC) Obviously GA standard, but some queries

• What variety of English are you using? Should be BE for west Africa, but you seem to have a mixture: centimetre and kilometre, but fiber and behavior
• Have been known and other "known" phrases are overworked
• head is nearly bald — not sure about "bald", implies that it has lost its feathers. Not a big deal if you prefer to keep
• as it did not share characteristics common to members of Corvus — couple of examples?
• which is the origin word for the word — yuk, lose first word?
• including the crow family Corvidae, the starling family Sturnidae, the Old World Flycatcher family Muscicapidae, the babbler family Timaliidae, and the Old World warbler family Sylviidae. — I'd lose the families, including the crows Corvidae, the starlings Sturnidae...
• Today the White-necked Rockfowl, along with its close relative the Grey-necked Rockfowl, is believed — Today the White-necked Rockfowl and its close relative the Grey-necked Rockfowl are believed
• These forests are traditionally covered in rocks — whose tradition? I'd lose that word
• vulnerable decide whether to capitalise or not
• $19,900 since we are not in the US, maybe state "US dollars", rather than one of the many others
• Attenborough's presenter — do we have a name?

It seems like he did a second part to something that was done by Jack Lester of the London Zoo - according to this interview http://www.wildfilmhistory.org/helpers/force-download.php?file=pdf/David_Attenborough.pdf Shyamal (talk) 15:48, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

• Retrieval dates aren't needed for publications that have a real existence, such as journals, just web-only sources
• Olendorf ref should be just p. not pp.

I'll have another read tomorrow, but that enough for now Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. I made most of the above changes. I changed the measurements to AE spellings. The template I used for measurement conversions automatically used BE, but did have coding to change this. I'm not familiar with BE and therefore write in AE. Unfortunately, I don't feel confident that I could translate this into BE successfully (I didn't even realize fiber was different), but if someone wants to change this to BE then please feel free. The only definitive difference between Corvus and Picathartes that Lesson clearly identified was the featherless head. Maybe someone with a French background could find other references, but the translation didn't seem to have any huge gaps. I knocked the article down to six knowns and two unknowns, which are decently dispersed throughout. The rest of the changes were relatively easy, and I learned some things about references. Thank you. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 07:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

• I've made some changes, mainly MoS fixes, captions, delinking countries, ndashes in page ranges, fixing some locations, please check. Your practice on full stops after initials was inconsistent, I tended to remove, not sure if I got them all, but need to be either all with full stop or none. OK, let's do it

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Looks good to me. Thank you again. Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I've had another check, copyediting and removing excess refs. you don't need to reference every sentence if the ref is the same Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Your changes largely look good, though I do like reffing everything in case the article is changed later and the ref implied is no longer obvious. Per the Mixed-species foraging flock linkage, how organized does a group need to be to fall under that category? The original reference says that it "feeds... in company of alethes, bristlebills, and Finsch's Flycatcher-thrushes" (Fry 2000, p. 3). I'm not certain this is a solid enough matching to be counted as a foraging flock, which per that article's text has a nucleus species that directs movements. What is your interpretation of the original text? Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The WP article includes Holarctic assemblages such as tit flocks and their associated species, which are pretty diffuse compared to their tropical counterparts, but unlink if you think it's not appropriate for this species. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

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