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Country

Can I ask why Europe is included under country's in the international broadcast section? Europe is not a country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.255.15 (talk) 05:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Release abroad

Anyone know whether this series currently airs in any country other than in Britain? If so, it wouold be good to habe this information up. Thanks! Ros and Jo Lipset are in! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.192.89 (talk) 22:02, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

DVD release

Why does it have a U.S. date in the box? Seems totally unrequired when no U.S. release has happened or looks likely, what function does it serve, might as well put an empty box for Mongolia too!
90.206.72.117 03:36, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Series section?

Seeing as the page now has a Series Two section, and a small segment on the upcoming Series Three, maybe there should be a little section on the first series as well. Anyone agree?

DVD picture

Would someone be very kind and please add a picture of the Series 1 DVD to the DVD section please? Im afraid i don't know how to. LOL. Thanx!

Genre - drama and soap?

Do you think that Waterloo Road's genre should be included as a Soap, as well as Drama? (Mattpitt1991 13:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC))

Nope, keep it as drama. Although most BBC dramas today have elements associated with soap (cheap, obvious plots, quick turnover, obvious photography), they do not totally conform to definitions of soap opera. The JPStalk to me 14:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Jason Merrells left Waterloo Road apparently because he felt it was going too far in the soap direction. Not to mention at the Shed Insider that they are looking to turn it into a soap. (Matthewmilam (talk) 09:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC))

The BBC have done this ever since Eldorado. They are too scared to launch another soap opera, so they turn dramas into soaps. The JPStalk to me 12:17, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Rochdale?

That needs a citation. It has never been directly mentioned that the school is in Rochdale, and AFAIK it is a reference from something (I forgot what though) that it it is mentioned as Aspinall's outpost in Rochdale. Anyhow, it needs a source cited. Duke toaster 22:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Wasn't it mentioned by Izzie in S2ep1 when she said the thing about Lorna being in Australia and them still in rainy Rochdale?

There have been some shots of the Rochdale Railway Station.For example, there was a shot of the station in Series 3, Episode 3 when Jack drives Davina to the station. In Series 3, Episode 5, [the episode in which Chloe runs away from home] she is seen leaving from the Rochdale Train Station. In Series 4, Episode 19 the teacher who used to date Kim asks a taxi to take him to: "Rochdale, Waterloo Road." (Galaxycat (talk) 18:41, 29 January 2011 (UTC))

The grafatti on the stair case has about which says rochdale rocks refer S3 E1 i presume it says rochdale as thats were its supposedly set —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.137.169.20 (talk) 19:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

It is in Rochdale, its in a real school too. It is called Hiltop Primary School, Manchester, United Kingdom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom0116 (talk • contribs) 21:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Cast list

Needs to be made more clearer

Yes, except a) they don't and b) tehe "more clearer". – DBD 10:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

What i meant by clearer is the whole "1x01" stuff could be replaced with "S1ep1". Like this:

Instead of:

portrayed by Jason Merrells, from 1x01 (2006-)

It could just be:

But that would be removing information... And SxEE is instantly-recognised – DBD 15:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Cast list reformat

The list is getting rather confused now - I would suggest we split it off to List of characters in Waterloo Road, and format it like List of characters in Holby City. What do we think? DBD 13:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Jill Halfpenny leaving? "Spoilers for series 2"

Apparently Izzy won't recover from the stabbing during the series two finale. Jill Halfpenny has decided to leave the series and won't return for Series three. There's a clip from GMTV in which she says so: http://publish.vx.roo.com/gmtv/portal/?channel=GMTV+Highlights&clipid=1441_gmtv_0281 (Matthewmilam 02:58, 17 June 2007 (UTC))

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Poor writing - In need of serious revision

Was the section below written by a pupil from Waterloo Road school. The writing is far below the standard of Wikipedia articles and is in need of wholesale revision.

"At current Waterloo Road has temporarily stopped airing after the first 10 episodes of the new series for the christmas break. Comes into effect in England on December 14 and in Scotland on December 16. The second batch of episodes should begin airing in Scotland on January 6 and in England on January 10. The third series finale is (at the moment) to air on March 9, 2008 in Scotland and March 13, 2008 in UK. (but it could be postponed until Easter due to the fact that there may be another series of Comic Relief does Fame academy airing- in which case there would be a 3 week gap between episodes airing just as there was during series two.)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colin marks (talk • contribs) 20:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Jason Merrells Wiki page

I had to reword the original sentence that was there in reference to his leaving the series. I also added a link to an interview where he gives the reason why. Hopefully my addition was sound. (Matthewmilam (talk) 09:17, 14 December 2007 (UTC))

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Series 4 section!

Ammera (talk) 12:03, 20 June 2008 (UTC) ANYTHING posted in the Series 4 section that is found to be untrue or unsourced will be reverted or deleated. This message applies mainly to the poster who continuley edits the section without any proof or evidence to back up what they have put.

Character Articles

Due to lack of references and information, many of the individual pages on characters do not meet WP:Notability. I think they should be merged into a list article. One giant list article would be to long, so perhaps sub-articles such as "List of staff characters in Waterloo Road" and so on. Thoughts? Million_Moments (talk) 11:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe a good idea actually. Profiles would be easier to keep an eye on and they would also look alot better. I actually have an idea of how they can be set out... Ammera (talk) 17:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Please share how that would be? Million_Moments (talk) 14:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, for example, the page could be called List of Current Waterloo Road Characters (maybe have two sepreate pages for Teachers and Pupils as to avoid a really long article), and could be set out just like the bios in List of minor & recurring Waterloo Road characters. Variations to the Minor and Recurring page could include a small bio of the character followed by brief series bios. eg:

Rachel Mason

<info box information>

<Brief character outline>

Series 3: <Brief outline of her role in the series e.g plotlines etc>

Series 4: <Brief outline of her role in the series e.g plotlines etc>


Tom Clarkson

<info box information>

<Brief character outline>

Series 1: <Brief outline of his role in the series e.g plotlines etc>

Series 2: <Brief outline of his role in the series e.g plotlines etc>

Series 3: <Brief outline of his role in the series e.g plotlines etc>

Series 4: <Brief outline of his role in the series e.g plotlines etc>

Ammera (talk) 15:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure character descriptions should be by series, I think you should just write what you know about a character succinctly and put refereces in for the correct episodes rather then separate paragraphs. A bit like the character ark sections of good articles Vala Mal Doran or Tom (Lost). Since this will be quite a major restruxturing I suggest we first propose the merge like on WP:Merge we can use this template: {{Mergefrom-multiple}} except we haven't got a page yet into which we'd do the merging which is a bit of a problem! Million_Moments (talk) 10:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Now that you mention it that may be a better idea Ammera (talk) 19:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Non-Free images

Please note that non-free images (screenshots, DVD covers, etc.), must only be used when accompanied by critical commentary. They must not be simply there for decoration. Hence, the DVD covers in this article are not acceptable under current Wikipedia policy. The JPStalk to me 14:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

BBC 1 Scotland

I was looking through some online TV guides, and looking at the BBC 1 Scotland Guide, on Sunday, October 25, it says there's an episode of Waterloo Road on at 8 pm. Does anyone know if this is the 1st episode of series 5, or a repeat of an older series. Remember the first couple of series had episodes broadcast in Scotland the Sunday before the Thursday it would've aired elsewhere? It's a possibility. UK TV Guide The Ultimate Koopa (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Maintaing this article and others in the Waterloo Road TV series catogary

Over the last few months, I have made a various number of edits to this programmes article(s). However, on reviewing the state they are in and the unpleasant amount of vandalism that is thrust upon them, I have taken the decision to no longer be involved with trying to maintain them. Sorry guys but it is near next to impossible to improve them to a higher standard without joint support from other Wiki users, and preventing them from being vandalised is even more of a trial. Good luck with anyone who try in the future. ShedMediaUK (talk) 19:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Series 7 start date

Phillip Martin said on his twitter page Series 7 will be starting in January, not 'late 2011 early 2012'

Should we edit Wiki?

Source: http://twitter.com/PhilipMartinB/status/18367395123 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.113.223 (talk) 19:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

It has since been confirmed that Series 6 will be continuing its second half from February, so Series 7 is not likely to air until late 2011, or Summer 2011 at the earlist (which has also been suggested) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterloo Road ED (talk • contribs) 15:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Series 7 - 10 episodes or 30 episodes?

OK, so last night I noticed that the Radio Times was no longer considering series 7 as 30 episodes long (as it was circa episode 1), but ten episodes. As a reliable source that has been changed, I reflected this on the page by moving all information on the next run of episodes to a series 8 section. Unsurprisingly, this has faced with some objections and it was promptly reverted. But we should not be ignoring information from a WP:RS. It's just not on. I've copied the user talk page discussions into the box below so discussion can continue here. Please at least attempt to understand WP:Verifiability, not truth before contributing to the discussion, because I'm tired of linking to it. Thanks. U-Mos (talk) 15:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC) It says on the Waterloo Road Website that the 7th Series will have 30 episodes however 10 episodes were cut from the list. http://www.waterlooroad.co.uk/episodes/s7-ep1.html EastBelfastBoy (talk) 22:18, 12 July 2011 (UTC)EastBelfastBoy

Hi there. I would just like to inform you that your edits to the Waterloo Road articles regarding an eighth series have, at current, been reverted back to original form. It has not yet been 100% officially confirmed that the next set of 20 episodes, currently being filmed, are to compromise as an eighth series, despite the change in transmission duration, represented on the Radio Times website. The BBC microsite, Sky TV listings etc are still showing 30 as the episode count at current, and there have been many indications of the episodes forming as Series 7 Part 2, such as Naveed Chaoudry's agency site stating he "will join the regular cast of Waterloo Road Series 7 as new bad boy, Tariq following his filming with Silent Witness" http://www.paynemanagement.co.uk/.

Ulitmatley, it will be the decision of Shed Productions on how they want to advertise the episodes, be it as an extension of Series 7 or Series 8, but until it is known, the evidence currently suggests the first. ED drama (talk) 01:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Here is what I am basing my edits on. Series 7 started airing as a 30-part series. Every source, including the radio times, called it this. Now, some of these sources have changed. Not just RT, but (for instance) the guardian's tv guide as well. The BBC's episode site, never the most frequently updated, and is behind on this. But that sources have changed, and what is almost certainly the most reliable tv guide out there is now calling series 7 ten episodes long, is something that cannot be ignored. Series 7 is 10 episodes long, and so later episodes must therefore be series 8. WP:RS confirmed. U-Mos (talk) 01:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I think it's up to the BBC how they promote a series, not the production company... and as my edits attest, I am not for a second denying that filming began on these 20 episodes with a view to broadcasting them as part of series 7. But things change. U-Mos (talk) 01:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
In response to the comment on my page (sorry, I must have wrote this as the same time so I did not see it) how a magazine etc refers to the series is not official, not matter how "reliable" they come across. For example, Whats On TV advertised Series 6 Spring Term as Series 7. Since the series have been split, many sites have often registered Autumn and Spring Terms as seperate series, which in a way is true, however when combined by seriel number, they are in fact one series, just split for broadcasting purposes. ED drama (talk) 01:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
True, the BBC can promote it how they want in regards to advertsing. What I mean is in terms of the series number and promotion of it, it will be up to the production company as to which one will be made official. After all, it is them who pass on details to other promotion outputs such as DVD retail etc. But, as you have said, things can change. I just think we need to wait for a little more confirmation before we go changing it perminantly. ED drama (talk) 01:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
EDIT: I have to say though, thank you very much for tidying up the Series 7 section. It was in desperate need of it, and you have made it look much better :) ED drama (talk) 01:45, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
We are not talking about any magazine though, we are talking about the Radio Times. The BBC owned Radio Times, if you like. Their information tends to be very accurate (can't think of a time they've been wrong, in fact), and the fact that they have changed from calling series 7 30 episodes long to 10 suggests it is the way to go for now at least. (I would assume that, coupled with the early broadcast for the current run the BBC have decided to distance Amanda Burton's time on the series from the autumn/next spring episodes.) U-Mos (talk) 02:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
At the end of the day ED drama is right. Just because Radio Times says it doesn't it any way make it "offical", owned by the BBC or not. At the end of the day the BBC micro site (also owned by the BBC [obviously]) says something different, which counteracts what you say. It doesn't matter what you in turn "assume" either. At the end of the day, as ED drama has said, until it is officially announced whether it is Series 8 or Series 7 mark 2, it should not be editied otherwise. Radio Times, having been owned by the BBC or not (totally irregardless and which by the way is a magazine as well as online source), do not decide whether it is Series 7 or 8. It is true that the decision lies with Shed Productions, and not the broadcaster. And at current there has been more suggestion of it being an extension rather than series 8. 78.145.113.250 (talk) 10:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps a better point to consider is what are our sources for calling it series 7? The original source is fansite waterlooroadtv.co.uk, which although may turn out to speak the truth more often than not is not a WP:RS. So as far as reliability is concerned, the 30 episode count comes from nowhere but television guides (including the BBC's microsite). Eight weeks ago all sources were in agreement, now some sources, including as I said the most verifiable and trustworthy of all of them, have updated to call series 7 10 episodes long. How can we possibly justify ignoring that? "Official" doesn't really matter here, verifiability does. U-Mos (talk) 11:52, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
The most official and verifiable source is the Shed Production website, which currently states this:
Shed Productions, part of the Shed Media Group, is an independent UK television production company, specialising in contemporary, original drama programming and content. It was established in 1998 by Eileen Gallagher, Brian Park, Ann McManus and Maureen Chadwick, who previously worked together at Granada Television. Shed has developed a reputation for producing high quality long running drama series at a cost effective price for broadcasters. This reputation is based on the strength of its brands, most notably WATERLOO ROAD for BBC1, currently in production for a seventh series of 30 x 60' representing 130 hours in total, BAD GIRLS and FOOTBALLERS' WIVES, both iconic brands which consistently delivered mass prime-time audiences for ITV1. Shed retains control and ownership of the programme rights for all its productions and has a growing library in excess of 340 hours. Shed generates substantial additional revenue streams through exploitation of the ancillary and secondary rights in its programme brands through Warner Bros. International Production. http://www.shedproductions.com/whatwedo.aspx
The Radio Times IS NOT the most verifiable at all. That statement is as clear as clear on the Shed Productions website, more verifiable than any other source at current. 78.145.113.250 (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Additionally, does the BBC press release not suggest that series 7 is seperate from the new episodes? U-Mos (talk) 11:55, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Suggests - maybe. Officialy confirmation - no. 78.145.113.250 (talk) 15:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Again, WP:Verifiability, not truth. Maybe it won't be correct in the end, but that is irrelevant. Shed's website is absolutely a source that all thirty episodes were going to be in series 7, Radio Times and the Guardian provide sources that this has changed. We don't ignore reliable sources. It's as simple as that. U-Mos (talk) 15:14, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I seriously do not think you are understanding this, and I am not prepared to get into an edit war here, butthe Radio Times and The Guardian's source are NOT thats NOT a confirmation, all it does it add to the specualtion. As the Shed site is the most reliable, (it cannot be argued, as they make the programme) and as thy have not edited anything different since, it stands. ED drama (talk) 15:18, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
There's no edit war, in case you haven't noted I have not changed the pages back. But I don't think you're getting this, as you're still talking about "confirmation". WP:Verifiability, not truth. If Shed released something today calling series 7 30 episodes long then I'd be with you 100%. But what we have is something that's months old, written when the plan was to broadcast 30 episodes as series 7. We now have reliable, citable information that that plan has changed, and that it doesn't come directly from the production company is no reason to ignore it. U-Mos (talk) 15:29, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I have re-edited the article now to "Future Episodes" and added some new text to state the situation. Until there is a full confirmation that the next 20 are either Series 7 or Series 8, i think it should remain under that tag. In fairness, I don't think under the new circumstances that it is as yet releveant to place a Series 7 or 8 tag above until its known. I have a contact with a rep on Digital Spy (who communes with Shed/BBC etc) so I will try them. ED drama (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I am happy to see that as a good compromise until there is something more definite. U-Mos (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Before you edit anymore of the waterloo road pages as serie 8 as you seem to have been doing for a while now, id take a look over on the waterloo road twitter account. Its stating that series 7 is to be 30 episodes long, broken down into 3 parts, with dates for parts 2 and 3 yet to be aired.

"@kopitron @FarFLyS There will be 30 eps in total but broken up into 3 parts of 10 episodes. No confirmed return for the next 10." - is what the precise words are. Oh, and this is a twitter account that is most certainly legit.

http://twitter.com/#!/waterloo_rd - here take a look. You may even learn a thing or two. Addios for now — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.8.183 (talk) 22:30, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

My most recent edits were simply to bring the other articles in line with the main Waterloo Road (TV series) page. I did change the information there at first, but it was reverted and a compromise was reached at Talk:Waterloo Road (TV series). However, since then another user changed the article to reflect a seperate series 8 on the basis of the source found there. It's still not a 100% verified, but the pages can be changed if necessary. Right now the most recent verifiable sources point to what the articles currently reflect. As for the twitter account, it is not verified and there is no indication that it's anything not fan-run, or run by anyone whose information is ahead of, for instance, the Radio Times. U-Mos (talk) 22:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
You mean the source that directs to the waterloo road website? It doesnt say anything on there about series 8 and the other source doesnt even work. I presume thats the one for radio times you mentioned? Well, good look changing it back to series 7 later on is all I can say ;) Happy editing :) 89.241.8.183 (talk) 22:44, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Ugh, damn Radio Times are always changing their links. I've fixed that one now. The source on the waterloo road website, which was updated very recently, describes tomorrow's episode as the last in the series. It's not the best source ever I agree, but it's still something (hence the verification needed tag). I have now seen that that site links to the twitter you mentioned on its home page, but quite frankly it's not holding much water. Probably the site itself (still listing series 7 as twenty episodes in the navigation column, for instance), and almost certainly the twitter page, are licenced out to some media group to manage. It's a clear hands-off approach from Shed Media. The frequency and manner of the twitter updates suggest they are not coming from the production office (especially as they're currently filming, I'm not seeing any set updates there for example, and in fact it seems to only relay what is already in the public domain, hardly a primary source). As such there is no indication that they have up-to-the-minute information from the horse's mouth. Series 7 was planned as thirty episodes (the source for that got lost on the main article, I've just re-added it), but the most recent reliable sources suggest that has changed. U-Mos (talk) 23:06, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
None of them say that has changed. They are presuming, like you and thats the difference. From what im seeing on here, there are a couple of users editing the page to reflect only one side of a two sided account. The waterloo road website has the same synopsis as the bbc press release, not to mention the same website actually lists 20 episodes and not 10 in the episode list for series 7 - not at all in line with the verifiable sources your stating is it? The radio times its self is not a verifianble source either. so it says 10/10 - that means nothing. In fact, in view of whats been announced on the waterloo road twitter today (which for some reason isnt seens as verifiable??) all it does is confirm a block of 10 episodes and not the end of series altogether - and as radio times and the bbc are actually the same (i think), even they have two different views. the bbc site still says 30, the radio times 10. Its all conflicting, yet as i say, the article is only reflecting one side - epic fail. it should be refelecting both, irrespective of sources old or new. Without the, as you put it - 100% confirmation nothing should be left out. But as i say, don't say i didn't tell you. ;) 89.241.8.183 (talk) 23:18, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Before the compromise reached was a "future episodes" section, as seen here. I would not object to a reversion to this form. As I said, I didn't initiate the current switch to series 8. I think my last message above explains clearly why the twitter page is not verifiable. Just because something is officially licenced does not make it the gospel truth. (As you pointed out yourself, the website still lists series 7 as twenty eps long in one place.) The Radio Times is the best source there is for this, especially considering that it has changed its listings from 30 episodes to 10 in the last few weeks. There is little actual conflict between sources really, because I have not seen a good source that has been updated recently calling series 7 30 episodes long. The indication is there has been a change, and so Wikipedia should reflect that. U-Mos (talk) 23:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
My point is just that - just because one site has "changed" its information does not mean other sites and sources are invalid, no matterhow old or new they are, especially if these verfiable sources do not 100% confirm anything, which none of them do (except the real twitter account [but i think we've covered that ;)]. I think you should revert it back to that original form. It's much more sensible and does not show a conflict of opinon and sources 89.241.8.183 (talk) 23:41, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
I have re-named the section "future episodes" again, to clarify the situation. If and when a completely verifiable source comes along for series 8 starting in the autumn, it can then be altered. U-Mos (talk) 23:46, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Just in case any issues arise from this: Radio Times are currently listing the new run of episodes as series 8, but in pages such as here and the Scotland press release the BBC are 100% clear that it is series 7 for the next twenty episodes, so unless that changes in a source from the BBC (which is highly unlikely this close to broadcast), it's no reason to change anything. U-Mos (talk) 21:31, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

History section

Is is just me or does anyone else think that the History section is getting ridiculously convoluted? Any suggestions for improvements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UKWikiGuy (talk • contribs) 18:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Yep. The article is in dire need of a cleanup. Series 6 section is particularly bad. I did series 7, but it's such a task I can't face the rest. Any help appreciated. U-Mos (talk) 19:44, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Squinthorizon, 23 August 2011

It was confirmed by the BBC on 23 August 2011 that a further 50 one hour episodes will be made from April 2012, and that production will move from Roachdale to Scotland. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14629725

Squinthorizon (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Partly done: The order for the fifty episodes was already in the article so I added the bit about production being moved. Topher385 (talk) 20:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Naseem

Nothing's been heard of the youngest Siddiqui since the casting call in May, still sourced in the article. We have never had any indication of an actress being cast as her, she has not featured in any synopses or the complete cast list for episode 12 [1]. Considering this, can we still assert that the character will appear? It's surely possible that she could have been cut if no one suitable auditioned. U-Mos (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion

There are a series of of redirects related to this page up for discussion. They all take the forms of names which are linked to, but not listed on, List of Waterloo Road characters. Presumably these are characters in the show. If they are incorrectly missing from List of Waterloo Road characters, it would be good to add them and then keep the redirects. If they don't belong on the page, it would be good to know that. More information, and participation in the RfD would be greatly appreciated. —mako๛ 17:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

International broadcasts

Hi, could someone update this information of airing in Finland:

"Series 1–3 have been aired under the name Waterloo Roadin koulu (The School of Waterloo Road). Series 4 is currently being aired." ->

"Series 1–4 have been aired under the name Waterloo Roadin koulu (The School of Waterloo Road)." 85.217.45.99 (talk) 12:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Series 5 DVD

Series 5 now has a complete DVD set as well as the term boxes, released on 23rd May 2011. (source: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Waterloo-Road-Five-Complete-Boxed/dp/B004S9KXXS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323122140&sr=8-1) Could somebody update? 109.149.212.175 (talk) 22:05, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

cast list on front page

I still see people are updating the cast to current people .... Why does this list need to include people no longer in it ? ...

Its misleading and anyone who visits it are going to obviously think that list are the people in it when half are not ...

I changed it months back only for it to get reverted, So isn't it a good idea to only have the people that are in it ?

Davey2010 Talk 17:42, 2 January 2012 (UTC)*: Done

Parts

I have added Parts to Series 7, as this is how the BBC have called the series. User:ShedMediaUK has reverted this however I think this is good practice as it means you don't have to go searching through paragraphs upon paragraphs to find what you need. One user has already shown their favour for my idea but I need more support as Shed doesn't think this is good. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 22:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Firstly as i have just stated to you in your user talk, the BBC have never refered to Series 7 as Parts A, B and C - it was origionally used by Shed in the early progression of the series, notably on their Twitter and Facebook pages. The BBC have always maintained Series 7 is a "30 episode series." Secondly, they are being distributed as Autumn Term, Spring Term (as with Series 3-6), and as yet it is unknown what the third block will be, most likely suggestions have been Summer Term. This is reflected in the DVD distribution, to which Shed Productions, the BBC and Acorn Media all envoke. Thirdly, this is not a "begging" situation - let the discussion unfold as people deam fit. And finally, I reverted it because you made the edit without asking if it was necessary. I did however mention a similar layout was introduced once before, to which it was quickly changed back. ShedMediaUK (talk) 22:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I also stated that if you don't want to have users to go "searching through paragraph upon paragraph to find what they need", condence what is already there. There is far too much as it it. There is no need to go adding partitions. It also already mentions in the Series 7 section the notable storylines in each block of episodes. As I have suggested, condence them if necessery. ShedMediaUK (talk) 22:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
But that being taken out would feat the point of that section, condencing it would not make sense, and if Shed used it, then why are you reverting that too. It makes no sense. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 22:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Shed only used it on facebook and twitter when responding to fans. They'd didn't use the parts tag as an official expression. They are still, as Shed has said, being sold in DVD format as autumn and spring, like with previous series, not part a, part b, part c 78.145.114.210 (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I think that the issue could be resolved if someone had the inclination to go through each respective series and make underlined headings such as 'episode 1,' 'episode 2' etc. Going through the article as a whole, it appears that the earlier synopses are quite condensed, while the others are lengthy. Writing a short explanation about each respective episode would make the article easier to read. (Galaxycat (talk) 07:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC))

I agree with the above from Galaxycat^^. I agree with Shed too. There is no need to split s7 into parts a, b and c. Just minomize what is already there to make it easier to read. Splitting into seperate sections is only going to make users write more information, that doesn't need to be there. If that was the case, why not create seperate series articles? 78.145.114.210 (talk) 15:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I guess it is also contingent upon what users want from the article. Would people be happy if they wondered in what episode a particular event occured - for example, if people wanted to know in what episode Janeece discovered the truth about her boyfiend - then an article organised by episode would be appropriate. If, however, people wanted a general account of the major events which occurred during the season, then a more coherent account of Series 7 is warranted. It is a good start to the article - I am aware that people have worked hard in order to expand upon it (Galaxycat (talk) 16:51, 16 April 2012 (UTC))

We certainly cannot have individual episode sections on the main programme article. If someone wanted to create seperate articles at Waterloo Road (series 1) etc. this would be a place for more in depth information. The series 7 section is now far too long, it should contain a brief summary of storylines in the series (if that) and nothing more. If people want to do that work (and it seems they do), seperate articles is the way to go. U-Mos (talk) 20:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I just realised that there is an article entitled "List of Waterloo Road episodes" which provides a brief summary of the episodes. (Galaxycat (talk) 10:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC))

Set in 'Scotland'?

"Set in a troubled independent school in Greenock, Scotland, the series focuses..." - When series 1 through 7 have been set in Manchester, why is it's location as of series 8 exclusively mentioned in the introduction? It's incredibly misleading. - For most of the shows life, it was a "set in a troubled Comprehensive School in Rochdale, England...". 95.146.139.239 (talk) 23:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello. One of the main plot points was the fact that the school faced closure. From my understanding of the series, the headmaster received funding in order to set up another school. One of the stipulations was that the school must be located in Scotland. Thus, the headmaster handpicked several students from Waterloo Road to commence their education in another school because he felt that it would be educationally beneficial. (Galaxycat (talk) 07:38, 21 July 2012 (UTC))

Hello. I don't argue with that, I dispute the fact that the introductory paragraph to the article exclusively mentions this school being in Scotland, when for 7/8 of the series it has been set in Manchester. The article is written about the entire series, not the latest (s8); Manchester is the predominant setting for Waterloo Road, either they are both mentioned or the reference to Manchester is exclusive; it is misleading as it currently stands. 95.146.138.132 (talk) 15:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
The introduction clearly needs a lot of work, and it could be expanded to point out more details of the series the change happened and that production was moved. But i have put for now "Originally set in a troubled comprehensive school in Rochdale, England, in 2012 the location of the show was moved to an independent school in Greenock, Scotland." Not perfect, but at least it provides more information than the previous version. BritishWatcher (talk) 12:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Removal of Guides Section

I think, since we have a list of episodes, there is no need for the guides section, which has been tagged as "too long". So all the stuff for it's respective series should be moved to it's place of the list of episodes page. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 21:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Only the series 7 section has been tagged as too long, not the entire section. There is a difference between the guide sections and the list of episodes. The guides allow for a broader synopsis of a series overall ie storylines, castings amd characters etc whilst the list of episodes focus more on each independant episode. By all means make them more compact, but in my opinion they should be kept. AscotLEE (talk) 16:45, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Lifting of semiprotection

I've requested unprotection of this page (or else tagging as indefinitely semiprotected). If that's an immensely bad idea, please point that out over at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Waterloo Road (TV series). 84.203.39.242 (talk) 08:20, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Class numbering

I've noticed while watching, that although the show is now set in Scotland, it still uses the English system of numbering classes (as in Year 8,9,10,11,12 instead of S1,S2, S3 etc) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.170.230 (talk) 21:11, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Series 5 Resumé

Did the person who wrote this piece actually see the first half of series 5? There is no reference at all to the Lindsay James story which is a major part of it.--Williamgeorgefraser 08:52, 6 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williamgeorgefraser (talk • contribs)

The pornographic elements were omitted I'm afraid. Basket Feudalist 09:35, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello. What do you mean by the pornographic elements? Am I correct in thinking that the plot focussed upon Lindsay killing her father because she feared that he would abuse her younger sister, Emily? (😺Galaxycat😺 talk 14:04, 19 January 2013 (UTC))

Wikipedia isn't a place where details are excluded, anything should be included, as long as it happened, however I am in favour of the removal of the guides section as it is necessary as we have the episode list. Dontforgetthisone (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Table of characters

Headteacher Actor Tenure
Jack Rimmer Jason Merrells Series 1-3
Rachel Mason Eva Pope Series 3-5
Karen Fisher Amanda Burton Series 6-7
Michael Byrne Alec Newman Series 7-8
Christine Mulgrew Laurie Brett Series 8-
Deputy Headteacher Actor Tenure
Andrew Treneman Jamie Glover Series 1-2
Eddie Lawson Neil Morrisey Series 3-4
Christopher Mead William Ash Series 5-7
Sian Diamond Jaye Jacobs Series 7-8
Tom Clarkson Jason Done Series 7-










We have a list of current characters on the page, plus most are on Series sections so this table really isn't needed! -
→Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 18:06, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

New biog pages

I have started off a new series of character pages, designed to include some biographical information, at List of Waterloo Road characters (series 1). It's a big task, so I've uploaded the article in an unfinished state to hopefully get some help from other users. The style should be pretty clear I think, simple infoboxes and basic biographies (Jack and Tom's will be longer than the average I think, as Jack's time was very plot-heavy and Tom was in the show for ages!) with as much sourcing of actor interviews/reasons for departure as available. Hopefully these will be as good as the old individual pages were atrocious. All help appreciated!

(Also, to clarify: I have designated "Main cast" as those who feature in the opening title sequence, "Supporting cast" to be other regulars (e.g. pupils) and "Guest cast" to be any others. Use discretion with supporting/guest, discussion can happen where necessary.) U-Mos (talk) 15:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Lead section

I think the long, second paragraph of the lead section is a bit heavy - it's so dense. I would suggest a rewrite, but I didn't want to barge in here and change things when so many editors have been developing it for so long. What do others think? Inpeacebase (talk) 16:21, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Information on Waterloo Road - Current and Future

Hi there guys, I have some information about the show that I would like some help with when it comes to usefulness in relation to this article, as I am a little unsure as to how relevant it may all be. If anyone is interested, please message my user page. Its with relation to the duration of Series 9, as there are many factors pointing to it being a 30 part series, and not a 20 part as previously thought. Thanks ~roman 1984~ (talk) 13:07, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Just to reiterate my post about the duration of series 9, the official twitter for the show has posted that Series 9 has not yet finished, and will return after a short break, as well as Series 10 in the future. https://twitter.com/WaterlooRoad/status/441319605420556288 ~roman 1984~ (talk) 13:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Proposal of complete overhaul - (Project Waterloo)

Having looked at the main article and the various other pages related to the show (the series and character articles), I am proposing a complete overhaul of them which will include:

  • To tidy each article up and make them more appealable with a more efficient, overhauled appearance as well as readable
  • To include all correct, relevant information, correctly worded
  • To include important areas such as realism, reception and more information on the production
  • To source all information correctly to the standard of Wikipedia

This is a show that has spanned nearly a decade and there is plenty of information out there to make these articles relevant. Look at the likes of Holby City and Casualty, articles are much cleaner and tidier, and with the right input and cooperation of editors, Waterloo Road can be too. On a serious note here, is anyone interested in helping with this Project Waterloo? Regards. ~roman 1984~ (talk) 13:37, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2014

It says Harley is the current longest characters appearing from the beginning of series 6 when really he started from sereis 7 episode 11. 80.193.1.32 (talk) 16:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Done It should've said Series 7 not 6 so I've changed it, Cheers, –Davey2010 • (talk) 16:20, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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