Talk:WWE No Way Out/Archive 1

Archive 1

As far as the Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle match at No Way Out goes, it has been advertised throughout Canada on Bell ExpressVu PPV commercials as of January 23 (perhaps longer). I think it should stay.

Cards are subject to change you know. Until the WWE officially announces the match come Smackdown! it will be removed.--Toffile 04:26, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Two matches were announced on Smackdown tonight, in Canada and the UK (perhaps more countries). This should constitute official announcement on WWE programming, even though the episode hasn't yet aired in the US.

No. Only when they have been announced on wwe.com or the programme has aired in the US, as per agreed guidelines. --Dave. 18:25, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

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I saw advertisements on ESPN concerning WWE No Way Out, which featured a match between Undertaker and Batista for the World Heavyweight Championship. Kind of threw me off... Did anyone else see it?--Gusiman 07:10, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Haven't seen it. Either an early, out-of-date ad, or perhaps simply someone not getting their facts straight. Either way, Batista is no longer champion, and Angle vs Undertaker has been confirmed. InedibleHulk 08:01, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

cover up

wwe doesnt show goldburg spearing brock it just shows eddie ddt-ing brock should that be in the trivia

Regarding local commercials revealing Spoilers

This is a big issue that seems to attract a lot of vandalism to upcoming wrestling event articles. The problem being that random people deliberately add matches to the upcoming event's card that have supposedly been announced on commercials aired during RAW,Friday Night Smackdown!, or ECW. Once these people are confronted about their additions of these spoilers, they tend to use the commercials as their source. The problem is that they do not seem to realize that these promos shown when a WWE broadcast goes off the air during commercials are actually only airing on specific local areas and are NOT in fact being shown nation wide. WWE (at times) unintentionally releases commercials and promos on future events, spoiling matches and sometimes even their outcomes, to the specific local media outlet. This is stupidly done to attract interest from fans in that local area and increase possible attendance and buyrate figures for the upcoming event. The most recent case being the Vengeance DX promo notable for being released in some areas roughly two months before the actual event took place. Only when matches are announced on-screen by talent or during the actual WWE broadcast and NOT during commercials can this sort of information NOT be considered a spoiler. Some may argue, "So what if they aren't shown nation wide, they were still released by World Wrestling Entertainment which means they are legit and therefore all matches spoiled have a right to be added to articles!" Now the problem with that simply is this... It is unencyclopedic. You see, what these people fail to realize is that Wikipedia is NOT, I repeat, NOT a Wrestling News site. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball and therefore cannot provide spoilers on future history or events that have yet to be. Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia, in other words, it's an ENCYCLOPEDIA. If you honestly feel the need to be an Internet Troll and add content spoiling what has yet to occur (in this case about wrestling), then please do so elsewhere such as... oh wow! ...a Wrestling News site! As best stated on Wikipedia Policy... "Before adding any sort of content, ask yourself what would a reader expect to find in an encyclopedia." ...and I highly doubt that you would be expecting to find out who will be in the main event at WrestleMania 100, even if you do happen to find a promo somewhere right now announcing it to be Hulk Hogan vs. Vince McMahon's grandson. Content such as spoilers, rumors, and other nonsense will be removed on the spot for the reasons just explained. This content simply does not comply with Wikipedia's Policies and guidelines and the addition of it is considered vandalism. Once again, please do NOT add any sort of content that even you would know is a spoiler (spoiling future history and events that have yet to be} and unencyclopedic. If you do in fact feel the need to be an Internet Troll, please do so elsewhere and not on Wikipedia. Thank you for reading and I honestly do hope that this clears up any confusion over spoilers and why they are being removed. Thank you. -- bulletproof ^3:16 20:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Blah Blah Blah. All you're saying is that it's not officially announced unless it's announced a certain way. Pathetic. If it's a commercial that says "this match will take place for this title", then it's announced and should be included. End of story. Good day sir. Mshake3 01:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No, because it will be reverted. It doesn't matter if you disagree or not. If a match isn't announced on US TV during the actual program or wwe.com, it will be removed as vandalism. End of story. He just wrote that as a friendly notice. TJ Spyke 02:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this another one of those unwritten policies I've heard so much about? Whatever, time to change this policy.Mshake3 02:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Poster

Why cant you's seems to accept the fact randy orton is on the official wwe no way out 2006 cover, heres the proof from wwe.com that this is the actual poster not the other one.

• [1] - look at the banner who's on there...thats right its the randy poster
• [2] - scroll down and who do they say is the no way out 2006 poster... thats right its randy.

if the other one you all say is the official one then it would be in place of randys one but it is, all the posters up around the time of no way out was the randy one NOt the kurt and undertaker one. dont say well all the others are dvd covers, yes they were but they were also the poster, and seeing as the randy one was promoted everywhere for no way out thats the one that should be used. Lil crazy thing 06:34, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

If you check the rest of the article you will see that the pictures are of the DVD covers, we are trying to remain consistant. TJ Spyke 06:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

and if you actually take note of what i said the posters were the same as the dvd covers then, your just using any damn excuse cos you dont wanna look wrong, if wwe says thats the official poster then thats the one that should be used not oh were gonna remain consistant with the article theres no rule saying all pictures have to be the same, it doesnt make the article look any different. why cant you just except someone else has made an edit on this page which actually correct you. Lil crazy thing 06:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

It makes an article look nice when it is consistant. It doesn't look right for the other years to have the DVD covers but 2006 to use the promo poster. TJ Spyke 07:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

this makes me laugh at how pathetic some people and this damn site is getting, like someone is actually gonna come on this page and think oh my god i cant look at this picture its not the dvd cover thats so wrong...yeah right, i can use the same thing with you all the other years also use the promo poster which you seems to have ignored in each reply so i'm keeping it consistant by using the promo poster like all the other ones, more people recognise the randy poster then the other one.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lil crazy thing (talk • contribs)

kurt angle vs konnan???

dont make me laugh. why has someone put that up? some people are bloody stupid.81.151.219.195 22:59, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Protection

Can somebody request semi-protection to stop the IP vandalism? TJ Spyke 23:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Though you already know this, I did so. Cheers, -- The Hybrid 23:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

How have unregistered users recently been modifying the article, even though the block is in place? Eastlygod 21:32, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the block expired yesterday (I remember seeing the expiration date when the block was put on). I will request it again. TJ Spyke 21:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No Way Out 2007 Matches announced

No way out 2007 matches announced live at smackdown tapings in Houston - World Champion Batista and The Undertaker vs John Cena and Shawn Micheals also, Kane vs King Booker —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.255.78.37 (talk • contribs)

1)They did NOT announce a Kane/Booker match and 2)It doesn't matter because the policy is to wait until they are announced on US TV or wwe.com. TJ Spyke 07:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Why was my match listing reverted?Koberulz 04:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Because you added the match before it was announced on TV. Ths match wasn't announced until the last few minutes of SD. TJ Spyke 05:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

No, I didn't. I added it a few hours after I finished watching SmackDown.Koberulz 06:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

If you had read the warning, you would know the policy is to wait for it to air in the US/Canada (8pm EST Friday). TJ Spyke 06:48, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

What, if the US hasn't seen it, it hasn't happened? That's rediculous. ~``~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Koberulz (talk • contribs) 14:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

That's the line to take though. Two reasons why (IMO) - WWE treats things this way (e.g. the PPVs that took place in the UK Rebellion/Insurrexion are never mentioned by WWE); the US is the WWE's home. --Dave. 18:52, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, technically, it doesn't... WWE doesn't put up the results from Smackdown! in its website until after it has aired in the US; so even if you have alredy seen it, it hasn't happened for WWE (unless it is something urgent). Andresg770 22:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

well thats just stupid. if WWE wanted things in America to happen first, then they wouldnt show it over here in the U.K before its broadcast in the U.S would they??? Anakinjmt 15:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I brought this back so I could respond to it. Because WWE.com doesn't update until it's aired in the US, that's why we do it this way. WWE considers itself an American company, and the site doesn't update until it's aired in America. Couldn't tell you why the UK and Canada get it before the US, but that's what WWE.com does, and that's what we does. If you don't like it, talk to WWE.com. Anakinjmt 15:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

WWE also might not hve any say in when they are aired. For example, it was UPN (not known as The CW) that decided to move SmackDown to Fridays (this was when they were thinking about dumping the show, and networks usually stick shows on Friday nights so they can use poor ratings as an excuse to cancel it). TJ Spyke 23:17, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Would someone please add the four way ladder match for the wwe tag team championship?— Preceding unsigned comment added by KMHS009 (talk • contribs)

Just for future reference, you can be bold and add it yourself. TJ Spyke 01:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Finlay vs. Boogeyman was announced I saw it on Smackdown it was announce officially.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.17.225 (talk • contribs)

two more matches were announced chris benoit & the hardys vs. MVP & MNM and a cruiserweight open between helms, jimmy wang yang, funaki, scotty2hotty, jamie noble,davari and shannon moore

Main Event

Shouldnt it be the World Tag Team Champs hbk and wwe champ john cena vs whc batista & the undertaker —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Furla71 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

probably worth holding off on that for a couple of weeks... --Dave. 18:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Titles are only mentioned if they are on the line, so the tag titles won't be mentioned unless they are on the line (which won't happen since it would give SD 2 tag titles and RAW none). TJ Spyke 22:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm still of the opinion that titles should be mentioned even if they're not on the line, but the policy here is to only mention it if they are on the line. Anakinjmt 23:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

nobady say that Batista atack his patner Undertaker—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.75.105.178 (talk • contribs)

I don't really see it as notable. BTW, you might want to download Google Toolbar since it has a built in spell checker. TJ Spyke 23:23, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

NWO 2000

Fow whoever keeps putting that road dogg was pinned after a lead pipe shot, stop it. Gunn was hit with the pipe. Road Dogg was hit with the 3d and then pinned. Donco 15:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Donco (talk • contribs) 15:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC).

Two new matches announced

Boogeyman vs. Finlay

Kane vs. King Booker

Um...yeah, no. Not on WWE.com, wasn't mentioned on RAW or ECW. My only guess is you were at the Smackdown taping last night. Until WWE.com has announced the match or the match has been announced on US television, we don't add it. Anakinjmt 17:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Theme Song

When do they annouced the official theme song for No Way Out 2007—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.159.244 (talk • contribs)

There might not be one. TJ Spyke 05:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The official theme song is monster magnet POwerTrip—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.129.63.122 (talk • contribs)

It's already mentioned in the article. TJ Spyke 23:28, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Four Way Ladder Match

Can whoever it is that keeps reverting the four way ladder match please stop. its not just a normal ladder match so it shouldn't be listed as a 'ladder match' it should be 'four way ladder match' thank you Cradle666 19:29, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Not to be pedantic, but how is it different from any other sort of ladder match? It's self-evident from the fact that 4 teams are listed that it's a four-way ladder match (or 4-team ladder match, since if we're going to be pedantic maybe we need to identify that it's a tag-team match as well, but I would have thought that was self-evident, too). We don't have it listed here as a separate match type, so why do we need to identify it as such in this article. It's simply described as a ladder match in the "Armageddon 2006" article. --Dave. 22:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, it's like when someone types "No Disqualification Tables match". TJ Spyke 22:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

well a couple of articles up, there was a subject of going by putting stuff up when wwe.com does, and if you look on wwe.com it says 4-way ladder match. Cradle666 10:32, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That's talking about adding matches announced on WWE.com. But, we don't put things up how they do it, such as the order. And, as stated, it's self-explanatory that it's a four way match, seeing how there's four teams. Anakinjmt 18:01, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

thats a shame about the match, i was looking forward to it aswell Cradle666 09:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

London and Kendrick will be versing Deuce and Domino in a match for the WWE Tag team titles and the hardyz will verse MNM in a table match—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.157.132 (talk • contribs)

You are half-right, there is no match between The Hardys and MNM (as of when I type this). TJ Spyke 09:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Should there be a note saying how this was going to be a ladder match? Someone's put one in, and I was about to take it out, but I'm wondering if we should have a note about the match changing, sorta like what was done with Survivor Series and Ron Simmons replacing Roddy Piper. Anakinjmt 17:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No. It can be mentioned in the wrestler/tag team bios IF it turns out to be notable (e.g. if they play it up to develop further feuds). --Dave. 18:23, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

When was the new four way ladder match announced?—Preceding unsigned comment added by KMHS009 (talk • contribs)

There is no more ladder match, I guess the user who put that in hasn't checked wwe.com in the last few days. TJ Spyke 01:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

In Australia where i live smackdown has already aired and new matches have been announced, keneddy will verse benoit and mvp for the US title and there will be a cruiserweight open. Joey mercury will verse matt hardy in a match as well—Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.132.120 (talk • contribs)

And? Spoilers have been on the internet snce Tuesday night. Matches are only added once SD airs in the US/Canada or announced on wwe.com. You also got the matches wrong. TJ Spyke 05:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Translation

The French traduction of No Way Out is available now, so if someone could put the link on the English page, that will be cool ! Juju-SRFC 15:26, 14 February 2007 (GMT + 1)

The what? Anakinjmt 14:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh Sorry, The French translation of No Way Out ! Juju-SRFC 16:09, 14 February 2007 (GMT + 1)

What exactly do you mean by the French translation? Anakinjmt 15:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

It's this, what I've made about No Way Out in french : fr:WWE No Way Out. Juju-SRFC 17:08, 14 February 2007 (GMT + 1)

Added the French link. Thanks for the translation Eastlygod 17:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

ECW Title Match

Mr. Kennedy has challenged Lashley to a title match at No Way Out and he has accepted. But since people on Wiki have stupid rules it can't be put on the page until Friday after it is said on Smackdown. But I went to the show last night, and saw it with my own eyes and it actually happened.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.10.99 (talk • contribs)

Uh, those "stupid rules" are to prevent people from putting in matches not confirmed by WWE. While the idea of a Lashley/Kennedy match at WM is intriguing, until WWE.com or Smackdown in the US has announced it, yes, it will not be here. Get over it. Anakinjmt 19:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Um i didn't say it was going to be at WM I said at NWO you stupid jerk. And why does it have to air in the US first other countries get it first. Wikipedia doesn't go by what happens in the US it goes by what happens in the world.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.245.10.99 (talk • contribs)

For one thing, WWE is an American company and treats the US as its main focus. TJ Spyke 05:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Also, why would there be an ECW title match at a Smackdown PPV? That to me sounds highly unlikely, which is a good reason to wait until the match is actually announced, as a match like that is highly unlikely. Not to mention we need sources verifying information. Right now, all we have is your word. It's not known in the public domain. And, watch the personal attacks, dude. Wikipedia doesn't tolerate it, and neither do I. Anakinjmt 07:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

The match was announced at the Smackdown recording on Tuesday, however, I don't think it's for the title. As for the other poster, it's not being posting until it's shown on US TV, becuase that is where the majority of WWE fans are based, and it contains spoilers for the upcoming show if it is posted beforehand. Why are you so adamant that it is added to Wikipedia? Eastlygod 18:26, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Your all fucking idiots god for bid somebody knows about something and u dont have a source. No one even believes whats on wiki most of th times thats why people want it to get banned form chools and libraries so just give up everything your doing is worthless. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.245.10.99 (talk) 23:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

Please don't whine just because you don't know how to follow rules. TJ Spyke 23:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

That is true, alot of people don't believe Wikipedia, alhough if its that worthless then why are you editing it?--- Kings bibby win 01:33, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[Off-topic] Isn't that the whole point of having sources? --Dave. 09:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. It's understood people don't want to trust Wikipedia for research papers and what not, hence why we provide sources. Right now, there is ZERO proof of this match taking place, not even a rumor as far as I've heard. There's no logic in the match, which is even more of a reason to wait for proof. Anakinjmt 14:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

It is for the title. its on wwe.com right now you stupid bastards. go to the smackdown and look. other matches have also been made, but this page has a padlock on it and i can't edit it. someone with a key to this padlock check wwe.com on the no mercy page and add the matches. id type them here right now, but i might get accused of not waiting for the show to be aired in the US. I get it in my part of the world, 48 hours before the results are shown online. if you yankee's dont want to find out the results before u see it on television, say so, the warning informing us of not putting stuff on before its been shown on television should add "in the united states of america" because u guys seem to think u r the only naton in the world with television and watch pro wrestling. im not a member of wikipdia so i wont sign off with my signature

Thats exactly why people not apart of wikipedia shouldn't be able to edit. I'm not saying all IP's are vandalizers and havoc causers but its getting to the point where changes have to be made. As for No Mercy, It is shown live, you want to know How I know that? I went to it in person. Also watch on the Personal Attacks, even though your not a member or an IP. -- Kings bibby win 00:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

No Way Out 2008

According to WWE's PPV schedule that runs all the way to 2008, No Way Out will air on February 17, 2008.

other countreies

u no there are other countreis in this world and even if wwe is american we shouldnt have to wait until the get the messahge

i type that twice cause sum1 that knows im rit deleted it biatch —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 1993 lol (talk • contribs) 02:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

probably TJ Spyke, because everyone knows that when it comes to WWE its the TJ show and noone gets a say in the matter

Does it really matter? Policy is to wait until it airs in the US because that is when WWE.com updates, AFTER it airs in the US. I see your point, but it doesn't matter. Ever think that because it airs later in the US, if it were to go up Thursday night after it airs in the UK and Canada that it would be spoilers for the US? Ever think of that? That's probably a very good reason why they're not posted until after Smackdown airs in the US, in addition to when WWE.com updates. Anakinjmt 18:07, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

No offense, but Anakinjmt mind your own buisness please.-- Kings bibby win 04:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't be rude KBW. Also, SmackDown does air in Canada on Friday (in most of the country, parts of Canada still get it on Thursday. TJ Spyke 22:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I apologize TJ, but we shouldn't mind replying to anon editers. -- Kings bibby win 03:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe, but WP policy says we have to be nice to everyone. TJ Spyke 03:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Even Anonomous editers who say personal attacks. We've had our share of discussions, but were okay now right? -- Kings bibby win 04:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Short PPV?

There have only been 5 matches announced, what gives wont they have a cruiserwieght title match or U.S. Title match? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.72.158 (talk) 06:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

According to what I read on WWE.com's report on smackdown's last episode Gregory Helms will defend his title soon against 7 other men. It wasn't clear when it was going to happen. This match is probably going to happen at no way out because a 8 man cruiserweight open will be more probable being on a PPV than on Smackdown. But It wasn't really clear. Soopafred 07:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

They should have a match for the U.S. title Chris Benoit vs M.V.P. that would be mad

Trivia

I got another trivia for No way Out No Way Out 2007 is the same as Saturday's NIght Main Event last year in March about the wrestlemania main event of smackdown vs the main event of raw ( rey & angle & orton vs HH and cena ) -The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.654.06.055 (talk) 23:57, 17 February 2007

can u please put this on the aticle trivia for no way out —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.134.80.166 (talk) 23:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

That doesn't seem to be notable. TJ Spyke 22:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Not really. -- Kings bibby win 00:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

• it is considering they said it had never been done before. --82.23.235.59 17:17, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Cruiserweight Open: Gauntlet match??

I really doubt the Cruiserweight Open is a Gauntlet match. The last time we had it, it was a one fall match so I highly suspect that it will be the same. So I think the link should go to basic non-elimination match. Unless someones can show me on wwe.com that it is not. Soopafred 19:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

See WrestleMania XX. ThatsHowIRoll 19:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

dark match for No way out 2007

the dark match for no way out 2007 was RVD defeating Shelton benjamin by a frog splash. I know because I was live at the event in Los angeles —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.129.48.203 (talk) 06:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Do you have a source that canback this up? Otherwise it's considered original research. TJ Spyke 06:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

This is true Mr.TJSpyke, I went to it in person. I'll try to find you a source.-- Kings bibby win 00:05, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

When I make comments like that I am not saying it didn't happen, just wantng proof (per policy). Nevermind KBW, someone provided proof on my talk page. TJ Spyke 00:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Cross Brand

The 2007 edition of NWO was the final Smackdown brand exclusive ppv. Its notable on Vengeance 2003 that it was the first so the last needs to be on there as well —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wrestlinglover420 (talk • contribs) 11:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

Just like with NYR, how do you know No Way Out is the last Smackdown exclusive PPV? Anakinjmt 19:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Because as of backlash they are no longer doing single brand ppvs. Wrestlinglover420—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrestlinglover420 (talk • contribs)

Wrestlinglover, why do you refuse to sign your posts? Anakinjmt, all WWE PPV's starting with Backlash will feature all 3 brands according to WWE's corporate website: [3] TJ Spyke 22:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC).

Alright, makes sense. BTW, Wrestlinglover, you can always put it in yourself. Anakinjmt 22:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Removal of DVD cover images

I have removed two DVD cover images per WP:FU. Per the policy, there should only be a "minimal number of uses [for fair use items]. As few non-free content uses as possible are included in each article and in Wikipedia as a whole. Multiple items are not used if one will suffice; one is used only if necessary."

An image already corresponds to 2002 and 2003, so there is no reason to insert another image, when one is enough. I also have concerns regarding the number of fair use images in this article. It's supposed to be kept at a minimum, yet I count nine images. I understand they illustrate a point, but that's just too many. Nishkid64 (talk) 02:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hornswoggle/Little Bastard

He was still known as The Little Bastard as the time: [4], [5]. He wouldn't become known as Hornwoggle until later on. TJ Spyke 02:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Elimination Chamber match

is it true that where is an Elimination Chamber match inwitch there are 6 members of same brand winner gets a world title shot at 24--121.219.136.118 (talk) 07:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

No. TJ Spyke 23:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I heard of that too, but only from wrestling NEWS sites, and I haven't seen anything about it on wwe.com. I wouldn't say no that hastily, I'd say that we can't verify that yet. There's always a lot of speculation on sites such as wrestlezone, they predicted that Batista would lose his championship because of the Armageddon 2007 poster change (replacing the title with a gas mask, which was actually due to being sponsored by that new game), but he's still holding the championship right now.--Lord Dagon (talk) 19:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Just because a wrestling "news" (i.e. rumor) site says something doesn't mean anything. The ONLY information on No Way Out 2008 is the date and location. No matches have been announced and won't be until next month. This sites like to guess what will happen (like how how these sites "confirmed" that Jericho would return at No Mercy, then "confirmed" he would return at Cyber Sunday). TJ Spyke 03:14, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

their are even adds for the event that asy that the chamber will b apart of the event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.88.31 (talk) 04:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you have any sources to back up that claim? Either way, it's not official until WWE announces it. TJ Spyke 05:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Sure there are sources. Local radio stations have been announing the match in promotion for ticket sales. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't count. Mshake3 (talk) 05:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

well how about how the US goverment says their is no such thing as ufo's but their is a page on here about how UFO's are real but the US says they arent real--121.219.240.103 (talk) 06:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Edited the page back to how it was, a revert as it were. Guns2006 (talk) 14:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I don't have a user name or don't know how to put in a signature, but I live in Las Vegas and bought tickets to the show and the website said there will indeed be an Elimination Chamber. I cannot give you a link because the site is not working, but go to www.unlvtickets.com, and go to the No Way Out ticket selection and it should say something about the chamber. Hopefully it will be up and working but the WWE did announce it to the ticket website! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.77.44.211 (talk) 08:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The site is still down, so right now there is no reliable source for an EC match which means it shouldn't be added. TJ Spyke 08:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Working for me. To the article! Mshake3 (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

So, is there a reason this sourced information keeps getting removed? Mshake3 (talk) 19:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Probaly because it hasnt been announced on tv.LifeStroke420 (talk) 20:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

They don't actually say it's an Elimination Chamber match (it probably is, but it could just be something similar). TJ Spyke 23:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

they willnt say about the chamber till after the RR --58.168.210.3 (talk) 03:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Well assuming the poster uploaded is real (looks pretty real to me) then we can assume there will be an EC match (there is a chamber in the background) but until WWE specifically state there will be one at NO WAY OUT, I think we should leave it out of the article. Mark handscombe (talk) 06:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

In Demand states that it's an Elimination Chamber match :P Mshake3 (talk) 16:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Do NOT add any matches until they are announced by WWE, they will be reverted. I think that says it all. STOP.LifeStroke420 (talk) 16:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Radio Ads are created by WWE, TV ads are created by WWE, ticket sale details are created by WWE, and PPV Synopsis are created by WWE. Please stop splitting hairs over this. It's announced, now let's add it and move on. Mshake3 (talk) 16:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

How are you not understanding this? It isnt on WWE tv it hasnt been announced and its not going in the article.LifeStroke420 (talk) 19:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

What policy am I breaking by including this information with a reliable source? If you can't state this policy, then your reverts of this information will be considered vandalism. Mshake3 (talk) 03:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Per policy guidelines you are not allowed to add information until it is announced on WWE tv. Quit adding it you are vandalising the page knock it off.LifeStroke420 (talk) 03:20, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

There is so much policy around here that surely you could link to the one I'm breaking, right? Mshake3 (talk) 03:29, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

You're not Mshake. Clearly, LifeStrokes doesn't fully understand the policy around here. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

It's like I've said, people always state "per WP:PW", but no one can ever prove it! Mshake3 (talk) 03:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Due to the fact that I live in Vegas, the commercial for No Way Out clearly states that there's going to be an Elimination Chamber. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

The warning on the page refers to rumors and speculation of matches. This source, along with the advertising in Las Vegas, is neither. They are official announcments from WWE. Mshake3 (talk) 03:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Exactly. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

First off its not my responsobility to show u were every rule is figure it out. second off i know the commercials say there will be one but it is not on WWE tv so its not going in the article much the way we dont put smackdown and tna taping spoilers.LifeStroke420 (talk) 03:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC):

WWE tv? Do you mean in between Raw, SmackDown or.... ECW? And I totally agree with Scorpion about the event changing. But, this was just came to me. What's behind Jeff in the NWO poster? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Listen im not disagreeing with you the chamber will be at NWO. It has not been announced on WWE tv though so it will not be on the article. Thats the rules.LifeStroke420 (talk) 03:55, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

What rule? Mshake3 (talk) 03:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

The rule that states that no information will be added until officially announced on WWE tv.LifeStroke420 (talk) 04:03, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't see TV on there. Mshake3 (talk) 04:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

exactly, when it's confirmed, it's confirmed Guns2006 (talk) 14:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I've got to agree with Mshake on this one. There isn't anything in the policy about being announced on WWE TV specifically. Adamaniac 14:35, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime, I see two ugly "Elimination Chamber match]]" instances in the section, one below the 08 infobox, and the other under "see also". Could those be removed? Mshake3 (talk) 17:26, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

{{editprotected}} will a admin remove the chamber? also it doesnt matter what you guys say we dont add taping spoilers and we dont add commercial spoilers period. Thats the way it is and if you dont like it try to get the rules changed.LifeStroke420 (talk) 17:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I've asked Maxim to rollback. Davnel03 17:45, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Considering that the primary dispute to the addition of reliably sourced information is "I don't like spoilers" (with the user refusing to find actual policy to backup his claim), I don't see anything else to discuss. Let's unprotect the article and move on already. Mshake3 (talk) 03:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Dude why dont you actually try reading the policy guidelines instead of running your mouth. At the end of the day is we dont put spoilers on here and im sorry that you cant understand that but your a vandal if you refuse to obey the policy guidelines.LifeStroke420 (talk) 15:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

LifeStroke, spoilers are not, and never can be against policy. But they MUST be backed up with a reliable source, which is damn near impossible to obtain in any and all circumstances. Just wanted to clear that up. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 16:01, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

And the only reliable source is WWE.com and they dont have it on there so its not going in the article.LifeStroke420 (talk) 23:58, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

No it's not. Now please explain why it's the only reliable source, and cite your reasoning. Mshake3 (talk) 04:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Just about anybody here will attest that I oppose using spoilers in articles and consider dirtsheets unreliable. iN DEMAND is generally reliable though in my opinion since they have revealed the PPV posters for WWE and TNA on many occasions. I think it can be considered confirmed as of right now (same thing on the Royal Rumble 2008 page, where a user keeps removing the RR match despite a source for iN DEMAND). TJ Spyke 04:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

since u allready refer to me here, i also want to give my two cents to that topic. why is wwe.com the only reliable source? simple answer - because wwe keeps on changing matches, they have not yet announced. i dont know why they keep doing it, but its a fact. After a match is announced on wwe.com, its very hard for those guys to change anything, without a pretty good reason. therefore, wwe.com can be the only reliable source here. Personally, i'm would consider some of the dirtsheet sites (like inDemand) reliable, but as said in the rr discussion, i've learned my lesson at summerslam page. So please stop arguing, the event is about 2 months from here, there's no need to add a match now. at least until RR. Diivoo (talk) 01:02, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

iN Demand is a PPV distribution site, and not a wrestling dirtsite. As far as WWE changing plans, well once those plans change, then the article can be changed accordingly. I don't see why official and confirmed plans can't be added due to possibly different future plans. Mshake3 (talk) 02:15, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Reliable sites have posted the current plans for wrestlemania matches. should we add them to the wrestlemania site? my oppinion - the event is too far away to post matches now. Diivoo (talk) 13:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

What? The only sites i've seen posting RUMORS (that's all they are, rumors) for WrestleMania are dirt sheets and "news" sites. iN DEMAND is more reliable than rumor sites like PWInsider and Wrestling Observer because the poster and info come from WWE itself. TJ Spyke 00:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Fuck it I dont care anymore add the shit.LifeStroke420 (talk) 15:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

• Exactly what edit are you asking for? Gimmetrow 04:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
  • If you mean the ugly edits: "In the meantime, I see two ugly "Elimination Chamber match]]" instances in the section, one below the 08 infobox, and the other under "see also". Could those be removed?" Mshake3 (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
    • I can remove the first one as it's a misplaced link. The See also link can be tidied by removing the extra brackets. OK? Gimmetrow 04:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
      • Actually, it should look like this: User:TJ Spyke/Test. TJ Spyke 05:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
        • I would agree having the chamber link in see also seems peculiar, but I don't see that discussed above. I'll check back now and then to see if there's a consensus on what to edit. Alternately, page protection expires on January 5, leaving plenty of time to change things before the event in question. Gimmetrow 06:51, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

http://www.indemand.com/viewProduct.jsp?prodId=76957&page_sectionId=2 <<<<< read the synopsis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.207.197 (talk • contribs)

then i would say, we add the elimination chamber match, as we also added the royal rumble match after indemand announced it. Diivoo (talk) 01:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)