Talk:Victory Bell (UCLA–USC)

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Maintaining NPOV[edit]

Removed part about the billboard; You could make a very large list about the things that students and alumni of the schools do to antagonize each other, many of them not so benign as a billboard on the Santa Monica Freeway. (Also, the statement was uncited.)

Keeping the article NPOV is a difficult task, particularly this week with the game looming. Part of the issue is the the contributors with the most knowledge of the rivalry have feelings for one side or the other.

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Vacated USC victories for 2005 infractions[edit]

See the discussion at UCLA–USC rivalry before altering this article to reflect possible vacated wins of USC over UCLA. Note that regardless of the NCAA penalties, USC did retain the victory bell for the 2005 win, lost it in 2006, gained in in 2007, and holds it as of 2009 on the basis of that most recent win. Group29 (talk) 20:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ties need to be changed it that's the case — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.206.12.198 (talk) 13:58, 19 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rename from Victory Bell to UCLA-USC Football rivalry[edit]

There is a little work to be done if this is the desired format. The Victory Bell was the original subject of the article, which did not cover the whole rivalry. Also, there are links stating Victory Bell, obviously calling out the trophy itself, which is awarded to the winner. The UCLA-USC Rivalry article also contains substantial information about the football rivalry. I see the time was taken to list out the winners and their poll rankings. Group29 (talk) 01:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I Need help understanding what the rationale is for all these moves to {school-other school} rivalry. AL2896 has added some good content, but has created confusion in the wake of the edits, and left a lot of cleanup for other editors. The moves of the names of the trophies to a generic name for the rivalry seems to be backwards. My recommendation is to restore the trophy names or rivalry nicknames. A redirect page of the generic name could then point to the more well known name. Example: Michigan-Minnesota football rivalry would redirect to Little Brown Jug trophy page. The UCLA-USC football rivalry could redirect to either UCLA-USC rivalry, which encompasses all sports, or Victory Bell (UCLA-USC) which is the trophy for the football rivalry.Group29 (talk) 21:24, 7 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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There was no consensus on that talk, and this article was about the trophy. There is another article about the whole UCLA-USC rivalry. I have moved the pages around, back to a Victory Bell article. However, the bots will probably have to make the final corrections to the UCLA long hyphen USC and then fix all the double redirects. Group29 (talk) 14:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rankings[edit]

Starting this year, wouldn't it make more sense to start using the CFP rankings? They're more relevant than the AP. Of course, an argument for keeping AP from 2014 onwards would be consistency... Thoughts?