Talk:University of Illinois Chicago

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Requested move 19 July 2021[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. After extended time for discussion, there is a clear consensus favoring the proposed move. BD2412 T 23:08, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

University of Illinois at ChicagoUniversity of Illinois Chicago – Three months ago, a discussion about the title of the Urbana-Champaign campus (Talk:University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign#Requested move 9 April 2021) closed with the consensus that it should be renamed according to the official naming conventions of the university, namely dropping the "at" preposition in the name. The aforementioned discussion became quite controversial—not because of the "at", but because of the hyphen vs. endash in "Urbana[-/–]Champaign", which is not applicable here. I would normally bypass this uncontroversial request by moving it myself, but this page already exists as a redirect, so we need the help of an admin.

The reason why this discussion has come up is that the three universities in the University of Illinois system have all changed their branding style guides to drop the "at" in their names. See UIUC, UIC, and UIS branding guidelines. UIUC and UIS are already changed; UIC is the outlier remaining. Thanks. Thrakkx (talk) 20:29, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment My further request title name would be University of Illinois, Chicago this indespite of already exist.Fade258 (talk) 08:11, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Fade258, the university itself does not use a comma so this would not be an option I'd support. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 22:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    This would not only be inconsistent with the university's own branding guidelines, but also with our own articles on the other two campuses. Thrakkx (talk) 19:52, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support though I'm a bit hesitant as not all the usage has changed yet. User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 03:44, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The title is changed in their branding and logo, this page should follow that branding. The wordmark should be changed on the page as well. JustinMal1 (talk) 23:24, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose (provisionally). We're not bound by the branding guidelines of the subjects we write about. See WP:OFFICIALNAMES. A quick search of the New York Times archives over the last year shows 24 results for the current title and 13 results for the proposed title, so I'm not convinced that the latter is the WP:COMMONNAME, though I'm open to any further data anyone wants to collect on this. (It would be helpful to know when the branding change happened) Colin M (talk) 21:54, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • This is less about following the guidelines of the individual Chicago campus and more about 1) standardizing the naming conventions of the three universities on Wikipedia. There was concensus to remove the at from "University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign", and after reading that discussion, I myself removed the at from "University of Illinois at Springfield" via implicit concensus. It is also more about 2) the fact that we will have to fight anonymous users from manually removing the at from the article anyway. Thrakkx (talk) 01:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.