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USS Wisconsin (BB-64) is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

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Float planes[edit]

As far as I know she carried float planes (mostly in WWII), but how many and what type? And what about the helicopters? 80.151.9.187 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading preservation section?[edit]

Congress had ordered that the following measures be implemented to ensure that Wisconsin could be returned to active duty if needed:

She must not be altered in any way that would impair her military utility;
The battleship must be preserved in her present condition through the continued use of cathodic protection, dehumidification systems, and any other preservation methods as needed;
Spare parts and unique equipment such as the 16 in (406 mm) gun barrels and projectiles be preserved in adequate numbers to support Wisconsin, if reactivated;
The Navy must prepare plans for the rapid reactivation of Wisconsin should she be returned to the Navy in the event of a national emergency.

These four conditions closely mirror the original three conditions that the Nation Defense Authorization Act of 1996 laid out for the maintenance of Wisconsin while she was in the Mothball Fleet. It was unlikely that these conditions would impede a plan to turn Wisconsin into a permanent museum ship at her berth in Norfolk.

So it's this section here, I haven't been able to find the actual phrase in the 2006 National Defence Authorization Act. There is mention of:

(d) Authority for Reversion in Event of National Emergency.--The Secretary of the Navy shall require that the terms of the transfer of a vessel under this section include a requirement that, in the event the President declares a national emergency pursuant to the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), the transferee of the vessel shall, upon request of the Secretary of Defense, return the vessel to the United States and that, in such a case, unless the transferee is otherwise notified by the Secretary, title to the vessel shall revert immediately to the United States.

but the 4 point preservation condition doesn't appear. The second point appears in the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act, but in reference to the U.S.S. John F. Kennedy. 12.151.56.2 (talk) 19:37, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of the inside of the boat?[edit]

I think an added section about the inside of the ship would be a good addition, definently not something i could do, as this is far from my usual topics i edit, although i do remember there being an oddly red lit room when i recently visited. ¿V0id? {have a great day!} (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FA concerns[edit]

Wikipedia:Featured article review/USS Missouri (BB-63)/archive1 closed recently, for another Iowa-class vessel. Essentially, that FAR determined that the ship's description needed expanded with material on things such as fire control and overall armor protection, and that some of the significant scholarly print literature on the Iowa-class needed incorporated. This article is largely sourced to DANFS and a ship's organization, which while not bad sources, are not necessarily a broad view of the performance and nature of these vessels. Hopefully improvements can be made and featured article review avoided. Hog Farm _Talk 20:52, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Temper Temper[edit]

An apocryphal but unverified story is after the Wisconsin destroyed the North Korean battery is that an escort flashed a signal stating "TEMPER, TEMPER". Research gathered from logs doesn't indicate much but it could have been impromptu. Regardless, I think this should be included due to many people becoming familiar with the Wisconsin through this story. Recommended action should be this be included in the notes section. Usaf2222 (talk) 02:59, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Usaf2222: You would need to provide a reliable source to support this anecdote, otherwise it's considered original research, which is kinda' like hearsay in court... it can't be used. - wolf 09:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]