Talk:Two Eleven

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Hello, I would just like to say a good effort to everyone contributing on this article however there are some duds whcih need to be removed. The main issues are:

  • referencing: per [[WP:RS|reliable sources guidelines, things like perezhilton.com and thatgrapejuice are not considered reliable.
  • formatting: it is not permissible to have multiple text boxes which squash text in between as this makes the article less accessible for blind readers who might use screen readers.
  • general speculation and original research.

I'm gonna fix some of the issues and paraphrase some of the large quotes per WP:QUOTE. At the moment the article doesn't flow well and some of the information needs to be verified. If you have any questions please feel to give me a shout. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 17:09, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Release date in Sweden[edit]

The earliest release date is october 3rd, in Sweden! Can this be added in the release history section? Source: [1] MusicUnity (talk) 15:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Release dates[edit]

User:Malcolmo is insistent on having every single country from iTunes in the release history. This simply isn't necessary. In reality there are only 3-4 different dates and with exception to Japan there are just two versions of the album. It is simply overkill and not required to list every single country on iTunes. Wikipedia isn't here to promote the album's release. The release history is simply to give a guide/flavour of when the album is out and where in the world. I propose removing all of the minor markets - i.e. countries where their share of the global music market is low. There is no intentional bias here nor is it an attempt to offend. It simply looks silly to have 40+ listings and iTunes references. This was my proposal here but its been reverted. Rather than WP:Edit war I'd rather discuss and gain consensus. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 13:54, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

iTunes shouldnt be used as a reference for any country release to begin with. Digital is not a regional release, as it's available for anyone with a computer and, in this case, iTunes downloaded, from which they can access any one of those country-specific stores. An iTunes release is a worldwide release. All of those digital entries in the section should be condensed to one "worldwide" and "digital download" row. Physical CD formats are not supported by iTunes citations, so unless an actual retailer of those countries can be cited, they should be removed. A list of retailers by country is available here. Dan56 (talk) 06:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A giant table to let readers know that it's scheduled for a 10/12 release in Estonia, but 10/15 in Bulgaria, but 10/16 in Malta, etc, etc.? Are you kidding? Malcolmo, please stop wasting everyone's time with this trivia. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 01:23, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My point exactly! If no one objects I'll proceed to restore a previous version which is more succinct. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 12:03, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to be back how it was. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:22, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed for the intermediate term. — Lil_niquℇ 1 [talk] 13:11, 19 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 13 October 2012[edit]

Please could you edit this page and add the album's chart performance - So far, it's charted at number 57 in Belgium (Source: www.ultratop.be/en/ultratop.asp), number 68 in Germany (Source: www.mediacontrol.de), number 49 in Ireland (Source: www.irma.ie/aucharts.asp), number 57 in the Netherlands (Source: www.dutchcharts.nl), number 20 in Sweden (Source: www.swedishcharts.com) and number 56 in Switzerland (Source: www.swisscharts.com/) - All of these sources are completely reliable so if you could change this for me, I would be appreciative. Thanks in advance!

STrocks (talk) 06:46, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Those aren't reliable sources, and they also aren't the full websites used to find the information. Also not formatted right. Sorry. gwickwire | Leave a message 01:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Formatting is one thing, but actually those are very reliable sources. They are what {{singlechart}} uses.—Kww(talk) 17:05, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Two Eleven[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Two Eleven's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "acharts":

  • From The Best of Brandy: "Brandy - The Best of Brandy - Album Performance". aCharts.us. Retrieved 2010-03-02.
  • From Afrodisiac: "Charts Performance". A-Charts.us. Retrieved 2008-02-04.
  • From Talk About Our Love: "Brandy and Kanye West - Talk About Our Love". A-Charts. Retrieved 26 April 2008.
  • From Shock Value II: "Timbaland – Timbaland Presents: Shock Value Ii – Music Charts". Acharts.us. Retrieved 2009-12-28.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 20:01, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]