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Jospeh DiMenna[edit]

{User:Markvs88}, I am shocked that you don't find JD a notable person. He is one of the most successful stock pickers and hedge fund manager over the last three decades on Wall Street. He may not appear on CNBC and Fox Business, but, he has been profiled by the New York Times and BusinessWeek. Wikipedia is a democracy, so I would appreciate your asking the readers and editors of the Trumbull, Connecticut article whether or not they consider JD a notable figure.

(Stagophile (talk) 12:26, 6 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Mr. Joseph DiMenna is also a major benefactor to many local charitable organizations and is certainly notable enough to be included in the Trumbull list IMO.Tomticker5 (talk) 12:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain to me so I understand your POV: some guy who sucessfully runs a business is somehow notable? All I see is a guy that does his job well. The list of notable people in Trumbull is about to get a whole lot longer if we make that the requirement for inclusion! Mr. Dimenna has neither invented any new process nor is unique on Wall Street. If he was notable, why does searching Bloomberg & Motley Fool each only turn up one article, and WSJ & Barrons zero? I'm sorry, but I can't see how on Earth this guy should have a (brand-new) Wikipedia page nor be considered notable to the populace at large. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markvs88 (talk • contribs) 12:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Add Joseph DiMenna. I believe the list of notables should include people like DiMenna who donate money to charity and also who are successful in business. He's also from an Italian American family which seems to be a significant segment of the current population of Trumbull. Tomticker5 (talk) 14:09, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm sure Mr. DiMenna is a nice guy and giving money to charities is laudable, Wikipedia is not a Who's Who of any given town. Being Italian-American is likewise trivial to his inclusion -- would we then have to add John Plasko for being a successful Czechoslovakian-American farmer? No, of course not. Mr. Plasko is successful in HIS field (literally), but he's of no interest outside of it. The same holds true for Mr. DiMenna. If someone can prove that Mr. DiMenna did something besides make and give away money I'd agree that he'd be suitable for inclusion. But he simply is not a Jimmy Buffett-like figure on Wall Street and has no particular notaritey other than he's a fairly successful investor running his own small firm. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markvs88 (talk • contribs) 14:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You've forgotten that DiMenna's partner, Marty Zweig, was a regular guest on Wall Street Week with Louis Rukeyser. That cannot be downplayed in any way by anyone. To appear as a regular guest on that show, at that time, one had to have a good track record (performance), which Zweig-DiMenna had. Tomticker5 (talk) 14:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC

What does his partner/boss being on PBS have to do with Mr. DiMenna's being notable? (To put it another way: my wife is a lawyer... would you want *ME* to defend you?)

Zweig and DiMenna's performance as a partnership got Marty on Wall Street Week as a regular. This shouldn't be too difficult to understand. If you and your wife are both lawyers admitted to the bar, then it wouldn't matter who defended me in court. Perhaps one of you specializes in the case prep work while the other makes the oral arguments in court; an ideal partnership. Tomticker5 (talk) 21:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The point was that I am *not* a lawyer, and my wife's competance as one does not make me an expert on law. The same way Mr Zweig being on PBS a lot doesn't do anything for Mr. DiMenna's notability. Again, was Mr. DiMenna a regular on the show? That the *firm's* performance got Mr. Zweig on TV is also a moot point: was there no one else working there that contributed to its success? Even if it were just the two guys, do you really want to call someone notable for doing their job so that their firm is successful and thus getting someone ELSE on TV? If that were so, now we'd have to credit (say) Carolyn Haxs' 9th grade English teacher as being notable. I'm sorry, but so far I don't see anything in any of this that makes Mr. DiMenna notable. A nice guy, a successful businessman? Sure. But he still lacks a particularly high profile in the financial world, much less the world in general. He's not published, he's not a personality in the media, he's not invented anything... et al. Unless someone can show that he has done something besides his job (make money) and spend money, I can't see including him as a notable resident. It'd simply be lowering the bar to the point that we'd have to add several HUNDRED other sucessful, nice people.Markvs88 (talk) 15:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Markvs88, your analogy of your wife being a lawyer and not you makes no sense when discussing Joseph DiMenna. Zweig-DiMenna Fund is a partnership. A firm that invests money for others, like Zweig-DiMenna, unlike a law firm, is measured against his/her peers by raw performance. In DiMenna's case, he consistently ranks high enough to have become notable enough for articles to be written about him in industry trade journals and he's received awards for achievement. I also disagree that there would be hundreds of notables from Trumbull once you lower the bar to include him. I don't know the man personally, but it seems your enthusiastic argument against DiMenna's inclusion in the Trumbull notable list is a personal attack and is coming up short IMO. Please refrain from belittling or attacking the man personally and making these broad comparisons to other area business people and off color analogies. For example, if Plasko (or his partner) were to become a regular weekly guest (celebrity) on a TV show and he won awards for his produce, then I would say he would be notable enough to be included in the Trumbull list. As a major contributor to the Trumbull page, namely creating a History of Trumbull page and various other pages related to local highways through Trumbull, I think adding Joseph DiMenna to the notable list would enhance it not lower the bar as you seem to believe. Tomticker5 (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

YES!! It IS a partnership. As is a marriage. My not being able to practice law and Mr. Zweig being on TV is the same: neither of our partners’ success is not wholly (or even partially) dependent on what we do. To put it another way: is Joy Farr notable for Jamie Farr being on MASH? No. QED. WHERE? He’s not in WSJ, Barrons, etc. He is mentioned in one article in Bloomberg & Motley Fool each. Hardly impressive for someone who’s supposedly noteworthy and been in finance for 30 years. Tom, I’m rather surprised by that. This is no personal attack, as I do not know Mr. DiMenna. I’d be just as verbose against the inclusion of Mr. Plasko or others whom are simply not notable. For that matter, where have I attacked him? Rereading my posts, I’ve not disparaged/belittled him in the slightest, nor have I put him down at all! Do you see me editing his Wiki page? I’m hurt by that insinuation, btw. I agree, THEN Mr. Plasko would be notable (not his partner). Or Mr. DiMenna, if he were go on TV regularly, or write articles for publication, etc. But all I’ve been told is “he does his job well, and he’s donated some money to charity”. To date, no one has been able to cite anything else. As a major contributor to the Trumbull page, I think adding Joseph DiMenna to the notable list is not suitable. I’ve already listed many reasons why, so I ask again: what has Mr. DiMenna done that makes him notable? (Other than being Italian American, his partner being on TV, or his firm doing well?) None of those things make him particularly notable. Markvs88 (talk) 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you really not know the difference between a marriage and a business partnership, or are you under the misconception that Zweig and DiMenna are in a domestic partnership (aka homosexual relationship)? Terrible analogy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.17.84 (talk) 01:08, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm just against giving credit to somebody for something someone else did. If you do not understand this basic analogy, I'd suggest remedial English. Markvs88 (talk) 01:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ha...insults are generally the last resort when one is wrong. I see you have a history of "edit wars" and I am not interested. Hope your little man syndrome clears up and have fun editing your Battle Star Galactica pages. If you one day enter the business world, perhaps you will understand the relationship between business partners and how it differs from a marriage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.17.84 (talk) 03:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd start taking you seriously if you could fulfill a simple metric: STATE why Joseph DiMenna is notable. For six months no one has been able to point to ANYTHING he's done that makes him moreso than (say) Mr. Plasko. Also, please cease these petty personal attacks, they are not helping your case. Markvs88 (talk) 16:06, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a concept: I went out to Mr. DiMenna's page, found a working link and cited it as a reason why he's noteworthy. As it turns out, Mr. DiMenna donated money (and has his name on) the St. Luke's "DiMenna Center for Classical Music". *That* is notable. Markvs88 (talk) 20:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citations[edit]

Most citations are on the main wiki article of the notable person no need to place on Trumbull notable page but I added sources there Tomticker5 (talk) 14:20, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tom! Markvs88 (talk) 02:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics Section[edit]

To have this really big section on 2000 census numbers, and then to have an equally large section on estimated 2008 numbers is very redundant, and adds little value.

Because they're so similar, I eliminated the 2000 numbers, since the 2008 numbers are more recent. Personally, if someone preferred the 2000 numbers and wanted to take out 2008, fine with me. But to have both makes no sense.Asc85 (talk) 20:41, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

IMO it is kind of moot since the 2010 numbers will be out so soon. Markvs88 (talk) 20:45, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Trumbull's population actually declined per the 2010 census.Tomticker5 (talk) 18:03, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neighborhoods[edit]

  • Chestnut Hill
  • Daniel's Farm
  • Long Hill
  • Nichols
  • Sterling Park (the area bounded by Church Hill Road, Main Street, Old Town and Middlebrooks)
  • Tashua
  • Trumbull Center

1) There are already articles for Long Hill & Nichols. Does anyone think that any of the others (aside from perhaps Tashua) would be able to supportable as an article? 2) Should we split out Long Hill, Nichols, & Tashua as "Villages" or "Sections within Trumbull", as they're really larger than just neighborhoods?
Best, Markvs88 (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just sent you a message on your talk page about Long Hill page. IMO, Nichols & Long Hill can each support articles as "villages" as well as articles on their "history".Tomticker5 (talk) 15:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I guess I wasn't being clear: of course Long Hill & Nichols can support articles... but can the others? Best, Markvs88 (talk) 15:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IMO, Tashua should have its own article as a neighborhood/village and one for its history; Mallett and Beach families, Tashua Church and burial ground (1760). The same can be said for Trumbull Center with its present importance and its industrial and military history and historic burial grounds; Hawley mills, armory and Nero Hawley (Freedom Trail). I don't know if there's enough information to have a separate article on Chestnut Hill or Daniel's Farm, there's not too much there that even typifies a village.Tomticker5 (talk) 17:53, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Description of Jonathan Trumbull as a slave owner[edit]

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Rewrite "Government and Politics"[edit]

The section needs to be rewritten, both from a NPV as well as an update regarding the data from 2020 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LevitatePalantir (talk • contribs) 18:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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