Talk:Tropical Storm Danielle (1986)

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August 5, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed
December 27, 2013	Good topic candidate	Promoted

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GAN[edit]

Just a note, this GAN is not a WikiCup nomination, as all of the work was done before this year. 20:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tropical Storm Danielle (1986)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jenks24 (talk) 03:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First impression is that it looks good. Everything seems to be referenced and the article is stable, neutral and covers all major points. The two images look fine (PD and own work). I'll jot down some notes that should be easy to resolve and I'll pass it once they have been.

"As it continued westward, it absorbed dry air from northern South America, and Danielle dissipated on September 10." – Danielle is redundant, I'd suggest removing "Danielle" and replacing either the two "it"s in that sentence with "Danielle".
- Agreed. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The threat of Danielle prompted gale warnings in Barbados and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines." – suggest a comma between "Barbados" and "and" to clarify that "Saint Vincent and the Grenadines" is one entity.
- Good call. I tweaked it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"In the former island" – In --> On?
- Yea. I had to think about that one :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Another rain system affected the country a few weeks later, and the combined impact totaled $9.2 million (1986 USD, $18 million 2010 USD)" – possibly need to add "in damage", otherwise it's a bit unclear.
- I changed to "combined monetary damage". --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"In Trinidad and Tobago, the outer rainbands produced flooding and mudslides." – don't think the comma is necessary.
- I think it is helpful here since it is referring to the country, not two separate islands. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"It progressed westward through the tropical Atlantic Ocean, at first at a moderate speed before accelerating to 23 mph (37 km/h) on September 6." – I think the first "at" is unnecessary.
- Nice call. I went one step further and did ", initially at..." --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"and based on satellite imagery" – replace "based on" with "according to"?
- Tweaked. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
should you show a conversion for "1000 mbar"?
- Ehh... No one really uses inHg, but fine, since you asked. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"a rainband to the north of the center" – is "to the" redundant?
- Yes, yes it is :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"due to entrainment of dry air from northern South America" – worth linking to Entrainment (meteorology)? (I didn't know what it was and had to look it up)
- Thanks for doing the hard work. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"It was the only tropical cyclone in the Caribbean Sea in 1986." – change the second "in" to during or throughout (or something similar) to avoid repetition.
- "During" works rather well. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"gale warnings were posted for Barbados and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines" – again, worth a comma between "Barbados" and "and"?
- Sí. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"a rainband struck the island of Saint Vincent with wind gusts to near hurricane-force" – should it be "of" in place of "to"?
- Nice, I like. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Twelve days after the storm struck" – change "storm" to "Danielle" to distinguish it from the other storm.
- k --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"In addition, the two storms caused the deaths of 120 animals, although there were no human fatalities. In addition" – reword to avoid repetition.
- Removed one. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"and destroyed 4 bridges" – 4 --> four per MOS:NUM.
- Actually, that was deliberate, since there was "27 landslides" earlier in the sentence. MOSNUM says there should be consistency. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How you make any sense of this is beyond me, but I'll trust you on it :)
- Yea, it's the database for every Atlantic hurricane :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
According to this, the total damage to Saint Vincent and the Grenadines was $9,281,092, so shouldn't you round to 9.3 million, not 9.2?
- Ooh, thanks for catching that. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 10 is "page not found" for me. If it's the same for you, would you be able to replace it?
- Uh-oh. I found a link tho. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

These are all pretty nitpicky and if you disagree with any of them, I'm open to changing my opinion if you provide a good reason. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 03:10, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think I got everything. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 03:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, you did. Thought about failing the GAN because you refused to remove that comma, but I guess I'll let it slide (actually, I see your point and it does make sense to have a comma there). The conversion for mbar was an honest question rather than a suggestion and you can remove the conversion if you want (I honestly don't know if it adds anything to the article or not – it's your call). I just made one small edit changing the total damages to $10.5 million and removing "(PDF)" from ref 10. Had another look over the article and couldn't spot anything so I'm passing this GAN. Congrats and thanks for your quick responses to my review. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]